archiehawk
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Film will go to head of BT officiating and not a damn thing will be done about it. Now if we were Michigan or OSU......
Video: Kirk Ferentz Not Pleased with Officiating
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#1DieHardHawk
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I'm generally not one to get too worked up about the officiating, but, man, some of those calls/non-calls were unbelievable.
How about the reversal on the horse-collar tackle? I was throwing a flag the second it happened, then sat there stunned when they reversed it.
That holding call on Render? Simply a terrible call at a terrible time.
On the 3rd and 18, ISM gets blatantly ran into as the ball arrived. Part of that is on him, though. He and Smith both need to learn how to be "strong" at the point of attack. You have to go get the ball and high-point it. Don't stand there waiting for it. Either way, there was major contact before the ball arrived.
On the flip side, I don't think the non-call on the Purdue receiver was a bad call. That was a subtle push that all good receivers use. He was schooling Moss. Our receivers should take note. Also, the call on Brents probably was a good one. He had ahold of the receiver's shoulder pad for too long. It was a major bummer of a play, but the call probably was correct.
How about the reversal on the horse-collar tackle? I was throwing a flag the second it happened, then sat there stunned when they reversed it.
That holding call on Render? Simply a terrible call at a terrible time.
On the 3rd and 18, ISM gets blatantly ran into as the ball arrived. Part of that is on him, though. He and Smith both need to learn how to be "strong" at the point of attack. You have to go get the ball and high-point it. Don't stand there waiting for it. Either way, there was major contact before the ball arrived.
On the flip side, I don't think the non-call on the Purdue receiver was a bad call. That was a subtle push that all good receivers use. He was schooling Moss. Our receivers should take note. Also, the call on Brents probably was a good one. He had ahold of the receiver's shoulder pad for too long. It was a major bummer of a play, but the call probably was correct.
Ben Rumson
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When did this become a isu forum......refs
I disagree on the push off but agree on the Brents call. That was just dumb of him to hold him for no reason. There was no advantage gained there.
WinOneThisCentury
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I disagree on your last point. The shove to Moss was big...and illegal. It's what guys try to get away with all the time...but in that setting with a tear drop pass...that's a missed call and it was obvious. Moss was tracking the ball then all the sudden he was going the other way. Offensive pass interference.
Purdue followed the defensive game plan that has beaten Iowa forever. Rough up their receivers and try to get away with as much as you can...it works. Our receivers need to fight back. When they have to block a DB...they need to punish them...especially Smith. They need to be more physical getting out of their breaks and shove off too...until it's called.
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JoeyLabasForPresident
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Agreed on the first part, but as for the second, Purdue’s gameplan DIDN’T stop Iowa’s offense. Iowa’s defense gave up too many big plays and the refs bought into Purdue.
#1DieHardHawk
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I get the point, but, if you go back and watch the replay, it wasn't nearly as blatant if you watch it objectively. All good receivers use subtle little push offs. Generally, refs are not going to call it unless the arm extends quite a bit. It's on the DB to learn how to fight through that.
Think of it this way, if that was an Iowa receiver, and a push off was called, we'd all be complaining about it being a ticky-tacky call. Tavaun Smith did the exact same thing in the B1G championship and Iowa fans were railing on the MSU fans for complaining.
homes
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Tough PI call on Brents. It looked like he had good position. It looked like the ball was over the head of the WR. So, then it is 3rd and 18 from the 31. Blough throws another incompletion, and the kicker makes a 48 yard FG (of course he does), and the outcome is the same. That's how I see it playing out.
I wouldn't have complained one bit if that was called on an iowa receiver. It was the difference between the defender who has good position making a play and not being able to make a play. It changed the momentum of Moss pretty drastically.
hawkeyebob62
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The hold on Render and the PI call on Brents were absolutely unforgiveable. What people haven't mentioned is Purdue's third TD, in first half, where the WR clearly pushed off on Moss.
hawkeyebob62
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He was holding on to keep from being pulled down by the Purdue receiver. Even Kelly "Stiff" thought it was offensive PI on first glance.
#1DieHardHawk
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Agree. I don't think they would have overturned the call made on the field, but it was close and could have gone either way. He caught it, braced for contact, and began to turn. Technically, that's probably possession and a fumble.
Also there’s a psychological aspect to it to. It’s better to show your paying attention on close plays like that and challenge, especially when it’s in your rights. It might help on the next close call. Purdue sure got most calls after they raised hell on the fair catch penalty.
HuckFinn
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I think what bothered the people sitting around me at the stadium was that our common observation was that the Purdue defenders were continually holding our receivers, and often the official who should be observing was a lot of yards away. Certainly could be that they were coached to hold when the official was away from the play itself. Then, after ignoring many holds, and there were many, they call two phantom holds and a pass interference in the waning minutes when the game is on the line, and this time the penalties were on Iowa.
We all did find that rather strange.
There is a fine line between officiating costing a team a game and heavily influencing the outcome over the course of the game.
We all did find that rather strange.
There is a fine line between officiating costing a team a game and heavily influencing the outcome over the course of the game.
Adam
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Did you watch the game? Iowa didn't have an offense? That's a pretty rank analysis.
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JoeyLabasForPresident
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Well then you clearly do not know what the kicker’s completion rating beyond forty yards is.
