Uthoff Invited to Draft Combine, Jok is Not
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hawkjunkie
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I hope JU impresses during the combine. Would love to see him go high. He has that range for the 3pt shot. If he's draining them, he'll go high.
At least Jok has a couple workouts. That'll let him know what key areas he needs to work on this year, to make him worth an invite to the combine next year. Although I am guessing he has a pretty good idea on that...
At least Jok has a couple workouts. That'll let him know what key areas he needs to work on this year, to make him worth an invite to the combine next year. Although I am guessing he has a pretty good idea on that...
trj
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Jok working out for Celtics is interesting. I am a big Brad Stevens guy and Danny Ainge is a an ex-player who has figured it out as a GM. Their roster is full of role players that fill a niche so they definitely know what they are looking at. Not saying Jok will be a Celtic or even in the league next year......just find it interesting.
Panther 100
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I think Jok needs another year in school. He's a very good shooter at 85.2% FT, 43.1%FG, and 40.2% from 3 point land. He tends to have too many turnovers 1.4 TOPG and occasionally too many fouls. More work needed on the defensive end. He does have a bright future ahead of him. Overall, should be drafted early 2nd round (2017).
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A key for Uthoff is if he can guard 3 guards. He shoots it well 38.2% from 3 point range, 81.3% FT, and 44.8% FG. He needs to bulk up to play the 4 spot. Overall, late 2nd round. I think he can make it in the NBA at the 3 spot. Otherwise, he would do outstanding in the D League or over seas.
ArvadaHawk
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This might sound a bit crazy, but JU probably sticks in the NBA if he can gain (quite a bit of) lower body strength and post people up. He's almost 6'-10" with a 7ft wingspan. I don't know that he'll even develop the handles to play the perimeter, unless he's just a spot shooter like Ballard. But at 85% from the line, get him down low and let him get fouled.
trj
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JU reminds me of Teyshaun Prince, probably a better shooter than Prince, but Prince was/is a better defender. Imo, it all depends on his mental makeup, not lower body strength. JU has to believe he can play in that league otherwise he is going to get crushed.
trj
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Overseas is a no-brainer.....It is a matter of can he sneak in and be a late 1st rounder.
ArvadaHawk
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I say lower body strength because he seemed fall down, often, in traffic. A lot of the troubles he had, last season (don't get me wrong, JU had an excellent season overall) was when he got into traffic and he seemed to be pushed tot he floor quite often. I also don't think JU is a pure shooter from range. He's good, but not pure money.
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trj
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Everything you say is true i just think JU is fragile when it comes to his mental makeup and that league will chew you up and spit you out if you do not have the utmost confidence.
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I thought both Utoff and Jok stayed out of foul trouble and shot pretty well from 2 point range in the Tourney. I thought Utoff played tough back in March. Jok will learn from his mistakes. He had a tough time making 3 pointers in both the Temple and Nova games. Its tough to learn unless you fail. I sure didn't learn much riding the pine.
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QChawkness
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Uthoff has all the skills to make it in the league, but what trj posted is spot on. I really don't think Jarrod has the mental toughness to handle the NBA. He always seemed to shrink when the pressure was on and the pressure then was nothing compared to what will come his way in the NBA.
ibahawkeye
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To be honest, I keep going back and forth on whether Uthoff can make it in the pros.
After watching more NBA with the playoffs started, I'm back to saying he won't stick. The game is so much more physical and I don't think Uthoff can handle the physicality and although he shoots it well for his size, he doesn't handle it well enough to create his own shot and isn't quick enough or have a quick enough release running off screens.
After watching more NBA with the playoffs started, I'm back to saying he won't stick. The game is so much more physical and I don't think Uthoff can handle the physicality and although he shoots it well for his size, he doesn't handle it well enough to create his own shot and isn't quick enough or have a quick enough release running off screens.
Chickenlounge
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I see this argument, but on the other hand, at Iowa he was expected to be the star and take the team on his shoulders. That's a lot of pressure. He won't have those expectations in the NBA, and can hopefully come off the bench for some good solid minutes each game, and just do what he does without feeling that he has to score 30 per game for his team to win.
tksirius
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Not so much anymore. I don't see him facing anything more physical than what he faced towards the end of the B1G season.
Uthoff is interesting. I'm not sure he's quick/athletic enough for the 3 in the NBA. And he's not a typical 4 as he's not big/strong enough. His game was just a perfect fit for the college game. You know how people didn't think Draymon Green would be a good NBA player before he got going? Well for somewhat similar reasons I think the same of Uthoff that he's just a tweener with his size/skill set being what they are not fitting the NBA as well. That said he could very easily prove me wrong like Green has just in a different way. Uthoff won't be a defensive/rebounder/hustler like Green but he could find a shooting role easy enough. But again that kinda depends on what team takes him. If he were go to a team like the Spurs or Warriors that might be a perfect fit..... But if went to a team like the 76ers... I just don't want to think about that... I wouldn't wish that upon any player. Well except Niang he can go there.
trj
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With a good pre-draft camp and individual workouts I think he can still sneak into the late first round. He will struggle with the high ball screens and the pick and pop stuff, but given the ball movement and spacing that teams like Golden St. and SA have he can hit open shots. SA and Golden St. blow out a lot of teams so he would get minutes without pressure. Play through his rookie deal get his confidence built up and he could squeeze out a 10 to 12 year career. Gotta get in that 1st round though.
SteveGarvey1
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He won't have to be the man in the NBA like we wanted him to be at Iowa. He has some skills and length so I see him being early to mid 2nd rounder.
