Urban Analysis....Iowa at Michigan
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MelroseHawkins
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Four offensive linemen for Iowa blocking two people. That's efficient!
Somebody/player on that O-line needs to step up and be a leader. The O-line needs to step it up.
Somebody/player on that O-line needs to step up and be a leader. The O-line needs to step it up.
HaydenHawk56
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And Coach Polasek is like I would take 4 against 2 odds every time.
tksirius
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"They're kinda playing right into the teeth of the Wolverine defense."
"When you face a great defense, you gotta break your tendencies. If you're just gonna go run, run, pass... you don't want to do that against great personnel."
"They're in sprinter stances. They don't care about run. There's no run threat."
"Watch the 4 offensive linemen for Iowa blocking two people, yet one guy comes free."
"When you face a great defense, you gotta break your tendencies. If you're just gonna go run, run, pass... you don't want to do that against great personnel."
"They're in sprinter stances. They don't care about run. There's no run threat."
"Watch the 4 offensive linemen for Iowa blocking two people, yet one guy comes free."
NikeHawk21
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BF abandoned the run game, I said that all week. Everyone wanted to blame the Oline who was partially at fault but was put in a bad spot. It’s very easy to rush the passer when you know a pass play is coming.
DBAHawkFan
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We just have to EXECUTE!!!!
NCHawker
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Players do what their taught to do and trained to do. Not sure I want a job where I'd get 'schooled' publicly.
But that is what happened Brian and his O-line coach were absolutely boat raced and humiliated. I hope brian is learning the virtue of humility that his Dad has. And I hope MR. O-line coach didn't go back to Iowa City and start screaming and punishing the players, and putting it all on the players....somehow I have a feeling that is the kind of coach he is. I hope I'm wrong.
But that is what happened Brian and his O-line coach were absolutely boat raced and humiliated. I hope brian is learning the virtue of humility that his Dad has. And I hope MR. O-line coach didn't go back to Iowa City and start screaming and punishing the players, and putting it all on the players....somehow I have a feeling that is the kind of coach he is. I hope I'm wrong.
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The irony is of course they demolished him in 2017.
One hopes. Have you ever been a manager or supervisor? Then you know they always don't. Intentionally or not.
guffus
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That was great analysis on the 4-blocking-2 play.
Before the play they show the Iowa players pointing to who they should block. Then as the play starts 2 Michigan players suddenly drop back into coverage and the LB blitzes instead coming in untouched to sack Stanley.
Michigan only rushed 4 players on that play. No more than a normal rush. Michigan just did a good job of hiding who was rushing the passer until the last second and there was no RB there to pick up the blitzing LB in the backfield. Meanwhile Iowa had 4 OL blocking 2 Michigan players because 2 other players dropped back in coverage.
Yet after learning all that, I still don't know how you fix the blocking on that play. I guess that's up to the Iowa coaches to figure out.
Before the play they show the Iowa players pointing to who they should block. Then as the play starts 2 Michigan players suddenly drop back into coverage and the LB blitzes instead coming in untouched to sack Stanley.
Michigan only rushed 4 players on that play. No more than a normal rush. Michigan just did a good job of hiding who was rushing the passer until the last second and there was no RB there to pick up the blitzing LB in the backfield. Meanwhile Iowa had 4 OL blocking 2 Michigan players because 2 other players dropped back in coverage.
Yet after learning all that, I still don't know how you fix the blocking on that play. I guess that's up to the Iowa coaches to figure out.
This is so bad. If you're pointed at drop back and it's the signal for someone else to come. It really wouldn't be that hard to coordinate. There are way too many things (like tells) in the Iowa offense for defenses to take advantage of. Probably everyone in the Big knows these things to.
Ahhhhh the win at all costs crowd. If Satan had the answers we would want him to help us win.
okeefe4prez
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Dude, it's been the same story virtually every time we have played a decent 3-4 defense in the past 3 freaking years. Wisconsin, Purdue and Northwestern have all embarrassed our line while rushing 4 guys, occasionally 5. It is a joke.
Mississippi State played us pretty straight up because they put a lot of trust in their NFL studs up front and those guys completely bitchslapped our line, but we had a couple big plays on offense and one by the defense that were enough to win the game. Ohio State also played us straight up. Maybe ISU has a decent defense. If they do, that is the only team that has regularly brought disguised pressure with a decent defense that we have beaten in the past 3 years. The blueprint to beat us if you have the horses is as plain as day.
I personally don't think Urban Meyer is satan but whatever.
I am no coach, but I think that against a defense like Michigan's that does so much pre-snap movement and scheming, that you have to counter that with the same kind of games. Like the NFL teams, the offense needs to have its own pre-snap scheming and motion, much earlier in the play clock, to try to slow down that rush and confuse the defense pre-snap. I know its hard and it is rare to find a quarterback in the NFL that can identify this type of stuff pre-snap, but it probably is going to fail more often than not if you call a play from the sideline, don't do much motion, don't audible and snap the ball with 1 second on the play clock.
HawkU
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So when a P5 coach hires his son for a job that he has absolutely no prior experience at any level, aka nepotism, that said coach has the virtue of humility?
Seems to me like a textbook example of hubris and arrogance.
DBAHawkFan
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I wonder if ego or lack of respect for Iowa's offense is what cost him that game in 2017? Their defense played vanilla, no blitzes, just straight 4-3 defense. Didn't help their defense that Bosa was removed from the game early on, but you'd think that would have forced him to apply more pressure.
But they didnt, and they got pounded.
The two read blitzer's are not on the side of the actual blitz. The guard and tackle have the same responsibility before and after the switch. Guard has LB, tackle has lineman. If they twist, Tackle has outside guard has inside. They didn't twist, and the guard didn't even block his man.
How do you fix that? Motion one of the backs out presnap. That forces Mich to show their coverage, and you can audible into a draw, which would have gone for 6/7 yards.
On the run spillage - if you, as a RB, can't make one guy miss or get positive yardage against a safety, that's on you. Run him over, juke him, or stiff-arm him. You know you'll be isolated before the play starts -- that's why it's an iso. You have to initiate contact and get away.
Great explanation!
That was the one thing that I questioned when Urban was explaining was the run spillage where the safety was 1 on 1 with the back. Urban said it was a win for the defense, but maybe I have been watching Iowa too long, but I think in the first 3 quarters you can get that play with Toren on a safety, drill him and get 4-5 yards about 6-8 times, that safety is not going to want any part of that at the end of the game. So not so sure that is a win for the defense if that is on first or second down.
