UK & UConn: The problem in College Basketball

[JHHawk]

Duke, UK and KU are the three main destinations for one and done guys lately.

UK landed 5 of the top 11 preps last year, which was considered the best single class of all time.
KU has landed the projected #1 and #3 draft picks in the 2015 draft for next year, Alexander and Oubre.
Duke is bringing in Okafor and Tyus Jones , and if Hood and Parker stay, that will be 4 of the top 10 picks in the 2015 draft.

Sorry, but this is supposed to be college bb, not NBA draft wannabees bb. If you want to attend college, do it for long enough to at least earn half of a degree...3 yrs with summer school, you can graduate.

If you want to only play ball ...go straight to the pros, NBDL, Europe, or the NBA if you are good enough.

Maybe it is the whole union discussion, but I find it hard to defend the current system if the schools do not even pretend to provide a quality education to the players for their efforts.

Time for the NBA Players Union and NBA to figure this out...do it in time for next year anyway. This year, Okafor and Alexander would be going straight to the NBA and they would be on some NBA teams bench next year. Those are the guys that should go straight to the league...most cannot play yet, but the Lebrons and Melo can do it.
It is only a few guys, but they should be allowed.

 

[sportstalent]

Yes, the changing of the 5/3 rule was horrible for college bb. It opened the door to UK bringing a new 7 guys each year, as if they are actually going to school to earn a degree...lol. The NBA has to open it back upg for HS kids ,and if they pass on pro ball, college needs to be a 2-3 year deal, period. Baseball and football players seem to survive that approach.

The changing of the 5/3 had to happen...the changing of the players graduate in 6 years to just leaving in good standing was the worst thing that could happen.

It wouldn't matter if UK brought in 7 guys a year if they had to graduate or the APR is affected...there is no penalty unless a coach like Calhoun, recruits idiots.

 

[Lietuva]

Basketball wise, uConn has been a blast to watch. So I will definitely be watching.

So, are you planning to change your name from theboat to theboatright just for tonight?

 

[ibahawkeye]

Duke, UK and KU are the three main destinations for one and done guys lately.

UK landed 5 of the top 11 preps last year, which was considered the best single class of all time.
KU has landed the projected #1 and #3 draft picks in the 2015 draft for next year, Alexander and Oubre.
Duke is bringing in Okafor and Tyus Jones , and if Hood and Parker stay, that will be 4 of the top 10 picks in the 2015 draft.

Sorry, but this is supposed to be college bb, not NBA draft wannabees bb. If you want to attend college, do it for long enough to at least earn half of a degree...3 yrs with summer school, you can graduate.

If you want to only play ball ...go straight to the pros, NBDL, Europe, or the NBA if you are good enough.

Maybe it is the whole union discussion, but I find it hard to defend the current system if the schools do not even pretend to provide a quality education to the players for their efforts.

Time for the NBA Players Union and NBA to figure this out...do it in time for next year anyway. This year, Okafor and Alexander would be going straight to the NBA and they would be on some NBA teams bench next year. Those are the guys that should go straight to the league...most cannot play yet, but the Lebrons and Melo can do it.
It is only a few guys, but they should be allowed.

Screw that noise... I wanna watch these kids play and I'm not about to follow D league or Europe ball.

 

[Firehawk11]

I am a college basketball fan. I do not understand this thread at all. I for one feel that we are lucky to be watching these future NBA players in college for a least a year. The overall graduation rate for NCAA basketball is 53%. The overall Graduation rate for incoming college freshman in a four year institution is from 2006-20010 was 62%. College basketball is not that far behind. I just dont understand why we care whether these future NBA players go pro after one year. They should not be criticized for taking multimillion dollar contracts when they are available. I have a bachelor's degree, but you can bet the house i wouldn't have one if I was offered 7 figure job. These kids have a god given talent to entertain us. Good for them. Good for these institutions for being able to recruit these kids. We don't want to water the talent down just to even the playing field. People want to be entertained and watch talent. Thank you NBA and NCAA for producing such a great product.

 

[99topdawg]

So is it different than a person who is at the top of their class, has some entrepreneurial background, done internships, is going to a Stanford/Ivy league type school, and gets hired away from school by a company that wants to snatch them up and doesnt want to wait for them to graduate from college (which is really a waste of time for many)? Should that person have to wait?

My brother was an errand boy at a big company while he was struggling to pay for juco, and the company told him to quit school, they would show him the ropes, put him in the accounting department (even though he is terrible at math), promoted him, paid him well, kept trying to promote him to the head of accounting of different locations, until he finally accepted and now makes well into 6 figures. Should he have been forced to stay in college?

I dont see how anyone's being hurt by the 1 and done kids. The schools make money, the kids get what they need, the school has gotten them ready for their chosen profession, (i think thats the purpose of collej), and they will have more openings to give kids free educations/OJT.

It's certainly a good way for them to find out if they're ready for the NBA. if they cant make it in their first year of college, they cant make it in the NBA.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

So is it different than a person who is at the top of their class, has some entrepreneurial background, done internships, is going to a Stanford/Ivy league type school, and gets hired away from school by a company that wants to snatch them up and doesnt want to wait for them to graduate from college (which is really a waste of time for many)? Should that person have to wait?

My brother was an errand boy at a big company while he was struggling to pay for juco, and the company told him to quit school, they would show him the ropes, put him in the accounting department (even though he is terrible at math), promoted him, paid him well, kept trying to promote him to the head of accounting of different locations, until he finally accepted and now makes well into 6 figures. Should he have been forced to stay in college?

I dont see how anyone's being hurt by the 1 and done kids. The schools make money, the kids get what they need, the school has gotten them ready for their chosen profession, (i think thats the purpose of collej), and they will have more openings to give kids free educations/OJT.

It's certainly a good way for them to find out if they're ready for the NBA. if they cant make it in their first year of college, they cant make it in the NBA.

I'd worry about a company whose "head of accounting" didn't even finish college...

As to academics, it's NOT that we want better "student"-athletes than other schools, it's the fact a too-large segment don't play by whatever rules are in place, be it with regard to academic standards, recruiting "inducements", etc. The point being, if Calipari won't get players that go to class and make a semi-honest effort at the "student" part, what ELSE is he doing that might be less-than-above-board.

It's always galled me that Pete Carroll tries to make it sound like "We at U$C didn't cheat THAT bad!", as if he and the Trojans just got caught up in the moment.

They cheated. Once that degree of "adherence" is reached, it's pretty difficult to take anything else they say with a grain of credibility.