Tyler Goodson Had Himself A Night

MelroseHawkins said:
Well, they are keeping 3 rostered and and they already had the two pegged. He was battling for the third spot. I think they made a mistake. If he was indeed cut, he'll have a chance to land somewhere with the showing he had. I don't know what more they wanted. I think he showed pretty well.
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Who they keeping instead for the 3rd spot? Literally no other RB did anything besides him. (Jones and Dillion are obviously there 2 main dudes) It just seems odd to cut him for another RB that it doesn't seem so obvious to us is as good.

I hope he goes somewhere else. F staying on their practice squad if that's how they feel about him. They didn't draft him so he has no loyalty to them. Go find a new home.
 
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Packers releasing RB Tyler Goodson during final roster cuts

Rookie RB Tyler Goodson, who impressed during training camp, is being released by the Packers.
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Goodson, who went undrafted out of Iowa, rushed 28 times for 107 yards and a touchdown and caught eight passes for 60 yards during the 2022 preseason.

it’s possible that job will now go to Patrick Taylor, who is more experienced and better on special teams.
Per Rapoport, the Packers want Goodson (5-9, 197) back on the practice squad.

My interpretation. He had a decent game, but overall his stats weren't exceptional and the 3rd man chosen can play special teams. Goodson is worth a look if someone gets injured or the 3rd guy just doesn't work so we want to keep him around (like a lot of other guys). Let's try and keep him in the house.
 
I remember Lafleur being interviewed about Tyler during a recent game. The coach talked about Goodson needing to work on his special teams skills. Shortly after this Goodson muffed a kickoff return.
 
Just goes to show how hard it is to make a roster as a running back. And then on top of it most only get a year or two and then you’re tossed out.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
I don't think it's the same scenario though. CP87 stated they could use him "exclusively" in the WR position. That is a whole other dog to learn and I don't think KF and BF would be interested in teaching a player an entirely different position for one year. They just wouldn't have the time.

Goodson got many of those receptions on screens or out of the RB position. The WR position is completely different.

My point is that it is just not that easy, ESPECIALLY, making that transition is short time for one year.
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I agree they wouldn't really have done that...but I absolutely believe it would have been best for the team to make him a slot receiver. Not because he isn't a good RB, but because our RB room is way more talented than our WR room (and you need more good WR than you do good RB).
 
I predicted that TG was expected by Matt L. To contribute to special teams. They have an experienced proven RB on IR. That is their choice. I think they are wrong. TG will land somewhere.
 
Fryowa said:
Just goes to show how hard it is to make a roster as a running back. And then on top of it most only get a year or two and then you’re tossed out.
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It's many positions as well as running back. Football is the one sport where supply exceeds demand, which is why so many talented players who don't quite make it end up in Canada. Baseball started populating their rosters with Latin American athletes sixty years ago because fewer and fewer Americans had major league talent and now nearly a third of major league players come from other countries. The NBA became a global league starting about 35 years ago. Hockey is always been predominately a Canadian an European sport. But the vast majority of NFL players are American athletes, and the competition for roster spots means that not all of them can make it.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
Why can't he? He not good at fielding them? He can catch passes well enough. I figured they may have needed him to cover kicks on special teams which I know he never did for us either.
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Why can’t he indeed. I’m a Packer fan and follow them. He was the best back in preseason but with the load falling on Jones and Quadzilla the #3 RB was always going to make it based on ST. The fact he didn’t make it means the other guy was better.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
Why can't he? He not good at fielding them? He can catch passes well enough. I figured they may have needed him to cover kicks on special teams which I know he never did for us either.
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I really think much of the decision came down to his pass blocking and blitz pick-up.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
Who they keeping instead for the 3rd spot? Literally no other RB did anything besides him. (Jones and Dillion are obviously there 2 main dudes) It just seems odd to cut him for another RB that it doesn't seem so obvious to us is as good.

I hope he goes somewhere else. F staying on their practice squad if that's how they feel about him. They didn't draft him so he has no loyalty to them. Go find a new home.
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Some dude named Taylor.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
Why can't he? He not good at fielding them? He can catch passes well enough. I figured they may have needed him to cover kicks on special teams which I know he never did for us either.
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Back in my glory years I was a decent RB/slot. I had really good hands and caught things thrown my way. I could also return kickoffs just fine. But, I was terrible at fielding punts. I could not judge the rotation and get under the ball with confidence, and I knew a herd of buffalos was coming at me. Being a good punter returner is actually pretty hard. And you don't want a guy back there that you are not really confident in.
 
NorthKCHawk said:
Back in my glory years I was a decent RB/slot. I had really good hands and caught things thrown my way. I could also return kickoffs just fine. But, I was terrible at fielding punts. I could not judge the rotation and get under the ball with confidence, and I knew a herd of buffalos was coming at me. Being a good punter returner is actually pretty hard. And you don't want a guy back there that you are not really confident in.
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You have any eligibility left?

You are absolutely correct. They are very different, even though a novice fan would think it should be the same. It is not. It's a different angle, the spin is often different or no spin from a good punter, the arch from a punt vs kick off. This is why one doesn't typically see a KO return also return punts. As you put, there is an apprehension or anxiety with returning punts as a number of guys are keying on you and a good chance of being right on top of you.

In addition, a punt returner has to have this ability to read or just have a feel of when to return vs fair catch, etc.. It's knowing where you are on the field and how the kick is coming to you. If it's a line drive, one has room and a nice chance at a return. If it's high with a nice hang time, probably fair catching it. If you are backed up on the 10-15 yrd line, have to know whether to fair catch or let it go for the odds of a touchback (this if over your head at the 10 yrd line) for risk vs reward.

There is more involved with punt returning. It's an art.
 
NorthKCHawk said:
Back in my glory years I was a decent RB/slot. I had really good hands and caught things thrown my way. I could also return kickoffs just fine. But, I was terrible at fielding punts. I could not judge the rotation and get under the ball with confidence, and I knew a herd of buffalos was coming at me. Being a good punter returner is actually pretty hard. And you don't want a guy back there that you are not really confident in.
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By no means is there anything easy about it. Then you start factoring in the wind and weather along with everything else you mentioned and yeah it takes a certain kind of fearless dude that can do that and do it well. I wasn't even good at judging high fly balls in baseball. Let alone that.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
By no means is there anything easy about it. Then you start factoring in the wind and weather along with everything else you mentioned and yeah it takes a certain kind of fearless dude that can do that and do it well. I wasn't even good at judging high fly balls in baseball. Let alone that.
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I always thought returning a punt is a bit easier than fielding a fly ball in the outfield, until you get a week or two into the season, than the baseball becomes better to gauge. I never had a difficult time gauging punts as that came relatively easy. It's the art of having the knowledge of fielding the football as noted above and where you are in a certain game, score wise. It ramps up even more and becomes even more of a skill position in college. This because the punters are so much more skilled with the quality of punts, hang time, making back spin when needed and placement. They work on a lot of kicks for situations and pinning.
 
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MelroseHawkins said:
I always thought returning a punt is a bit easier than fielding a fly ball in the outfield, until you get a week or two into the season, than the baseball becomes easier to gauge. I never had a difficult time gauging punts as that came relatively easy. It's the art of having the knowledge of fielding the football as noted above and where you are in a certain game, score wise. It ramps up even more and becomes even more of a skill position in college. This because the punters are so much more skilled with the quality of punts, hang time and placement. They work on a lot of kicks for situations and pinning.
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My main pet peave with punt returners is when they backup inside the 10 to field one. I'd rather just roll the dice on where it bounces from there then the benefit of trying to field one there. That's just the KF in me I suppose.

And of course kick returners pulling what Parker did in the bowl game. Fielding it close to the sidelines going out of bounds with it on those is as big of a no-no as there is.
 
Hawkfnntn said:
My main pet peave with punt returners is when they backup inside the 10 to field one. I'd rather just roll the dice on where it bounces from there then the benefit of trying to field one there. That's just the KF in me I suppose.

And of course kick returners pulling what Parker did in the bowl game. Fielding it close to the sidelines going out of bounds with it on those is as big of a no-no as there is.
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I'm pretty certain this is what they are taught to do. This is a pretty standard rule for risk vs reward. If you are at the 10 and you see it going over your head, you let it go. The problem is they are not being aware where they are actually on the field when moving, such as laterally to field it. I think they may not realize where they are.

When fielding a punt from around the 50 and closer, it is standard for the punt returner to plant himself on the 10, so that he knows that is the threshold and knows where he is on the field. Anything ahead of you either field it or make a fair catch. Anything longer than that, let it go to take the chance for a touch back. If the punter has a high hang time of like 4.3-4.7, then you can presume the coverage team will be down there breathing on you, let it go and hope it goes into the end-zone.
 
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