Trump supporters, how do you square this?

Fryowa said:
I would counter that "completely unreasonable" is a matter of individual perception.

If a bill to say, cap prescription drug prices included add-on language that offered tax loopholes to pharma companies and still passed a hypothetical 50/50 congress, that add-on language can't be considered unreasonable because:

1) Both sides voted for it to pass, and

2) It must have been reasonable enough that the opposing side thought what they got in return (cap on drug prices) was worth the squeeze.

Obviously a 50/50 congress isn't the norm and sometimes control over the house/senate lines in one party's hands, but them's the breaks.

So add-ons might be unreasonable to you, but perfectly reasonable to another person, and even neutral to another. That's the art of the deal so to speak. But at the end of the day something got done and it's the thing no one in our government wants to work out nowadays.

Regarding the example you gave of

That's where the problem begins with politicians. They're more worried about assigning blame and gaslighting to make the other side look bad (GOP and dems both) than they are seeing things for the finished product. For every omelette you make you have to break a certain number of eggs. Yeah, we all want everyone to be in agreement, but it simply doesn't work that way. Never has, never will. But you still need to come to a compromise and live with it. Someone has to be the wolf and someone has to be the lamb in every situation in life. You just try to moderate it as much as possible and if both sides could see that, they'd be able to work together and say, "We'll take turns being the lamb." But stubbornness and pride don't let it happen anymore like it used to. These people would rather lose a mile than give an inch.

In my example above, one side wants caps on drug prices and to stick it to big pharma at the same time, and because they know they can't have both they stonewall instead of choosing one or the other. And we suffer because of it and nothing's ever done about the problem.
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This seems like a situation where we damn near 100% agree with each other but still find ways to nitpick the way we are wording things.
 
So if Joe was worried about a crooked president blindly going after his family for revenge, why didn't he pardon Ashley? Seems like my kids would be the first people I would want to protect in that situation.
 
Hay Man said:
Time to let it go, Biden isn't President anymore.
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You mean I should let it go or the government in power now should let it go? If you mean I should, then maybe you're right. If you mean the current government should, I think you're wrong. Since Biden didn't bother to pardon his daughter, I assume the pardons have nothing to do with keeping his innocent family members safe. I think by now it's pretty well know that the family members that did receive pardons are being accused of doing. That level of corruption is something that the current government should absolutely not let go.
 
Also Fauci's pardon goes back to 2014. That's the same year the US started getting involved with Ukraine and bio labs there. I assume that's just a coincidence tho.
 
PCHawk said:
You mean I should let it go or the government in power now should let it go? If you mean I should, then maybe you're right. If you mean the current government should, I think you're wrong. Since Biden didn't bother to pardon his daughter, I assume the pardons have nothing to do with keeping his innocent family members safe. I think by now it's pretty well know that the family members that did receive pardons are being accused of doing. That level of corruption is something that the current government should absolutely not let go.
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Don't want to speak for @Hay Man but I read it as he's saying you should let it go. It's now time to complain non stop about everything Trump as if it haven't been done the past 4 years biden was president. Some are infatuated w/ everything the Trump says and does. Don't forget Trump is a modern day Hitler and going to destroy our democracy and take away our rights. Trump did just release his "militia" from prison and they're about to take over whatever Trump requests of them. Move away while you still have a chance.

The Fauci pardon is the one that rubs me the wrong way.
 
You need to let it go, not the government.

How about focusing on how renaming the Gulf of Mexico and removing the cap on prescription drugs will lower the cost of eggs and gas. Isn't that what he said he was going to do???

Also didn't he sign an executive order that restores freedom of speech and ending federal censorship, but the thinned skin baby wants an apology for what the Bishop said in a sermon??

Do you want to listen to all this same crap you complained about the past four years???

Both sides lie, both sides can tell the truth from time to time, but I want someone in charge that makes my life better and I haven't seen either side do that.

Also Citizens United was one of the worst things the "Supreme Court" has done to our country and it's caused corruption in the government the likes we've never seen.

We really need to stop this back & forth and hope things will get better, because it hasn't been great of late and I for one hope Trump proves me wrong.

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Hay Man said:
You need to let it go, not the government.

How about focusing on how renaming the Gulf of Mexico and removing the cap on prescription drugs will lower the cost of eggs and gas. Isn't that what he said he was going to do???

Also didn't he sign an executive order that restores freedom of speech and ending federal censorship, but the thinned skin baby wants an apology for what the Bishop said in a sermon??

Do you want to listen to all this same crap you complained about the past four years???

Both sides lie, both sides can tell the truth from time to time, but I want someone in charge that makes my life better and I haven't seen either side do that.

Also Citizens United was one of the worst things the "Supreme Court" has done to our country and it's caused corruption in the government the likes we've never seen.

We really need to stop this back & forth and hope things will get better, because it hasn't been great of late and I for one hope Trump proves me wrong.

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Words of wisdom. But as fry has stated the back and forth adds hours of entertainment.
 
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