Trump supporters, how do you square this?

[#1DieHardHawk]

I get what you are saying, but that was.a social pressure, not a governmental pressure. No one was threatening to pull FCC licenses, and there was no politically aligned billionaire suggesting he might buy dissenting media outlets and turn them into his own personal mouthpieces. I anticipate the argument that there was correspondence between government and major social media platforms around subjects such as COVID-19 and election related misinformation...we can reasonably discuss whether that crosses a line. But that is orders of magnitude different from some of what is currently being floated.

I was being a bit facetious there, and in no way am I defending any over-the-top strong-arm tactics Trump may employ.

That said, I think you are greatly underestimating/downplaying the role the Biden administration played in pushing several woke agendas. I could easily attach link after link of examples of governmental "pressure," but don't really see the point.

 

[PCHawk]

So Joe gave Hunter a blanket pardon that covers 11 years for any crime he may have committed during that time. 11 years is a oddly unrounded number that happens to be the same length of time that his dealings in Ukraine started. It will be interesting to see if other people get pardoned in the Ukraine money laundering scheme.

 

[Hay Man]

So Joe gave Hunter a blanket pardon that covers 11 years for any crime he may have committed during that time. 11 years is a oddly unrounded number that happens to be the same length of time that his dealings in Ukraine started. It will be interesting to see if other people get pardoned in the Ukraine money laundering scheme.

Give it a rest

Do we need to do a list of all of the associates, advisors, campaign staffers and his son-in-law's father that Trump pardoned? Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Stephen K. Bannon, and George Papadopoulos to name just a few

One of which he's appointing to be an ambassador.

Hunter was not involved in the White House and a big chunk of Trump's were either involved or will be.

Who cares anymore. You voted for and helped elect a guy that's a multi-time convicted felon, convicted sexual assaulter and you want to bitch about one pardon for his son?

Hunter shouldn't be pardoned, but don't you think Trump would do the same for one of his kids

 

[PCHawk]

Give it a rest

Do we need to do a list of all of the associates, advisors, campaign staffers and his son-in-law's father that Trump pardoned? Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Stephen K. Bannon, and George Papadopoulos to name just a few

One of which he's appointing to be an ambassador.

Hunter was not involved in the White House and a big chunk of Trump's were either involved or will be.

Who cares anymore. You voted for and helped elect a guy that's a multi-time convicted felon, convicted sexual assaulter and you want to bitch about one pardon for his son?

Hunter shouldn't be pardoned, but don't you think Trump would do the same for one of his kids

Hell I'd pardon my own son so I get it. But the list you mentioned were people who got pardoned for specific crimes (also not always good). Hunter got a blanket pardon for an 11 year stretch. Don't you have yo ask yourself what went on during that 1st of 11 years? Something really bad obviously or it would have been a nice rounded 10 year pardon.

Also the left just needs to stop pretending they have some moral high ground. That's the best part of this whole pardon. Seeing people have to eat their words for saying Biden would never do it. Of course he would. He raped Tara Reade, showered with his daughter, and earned the name Pedo Joe from his own kids. He clearly has no moral high ground.

 

[Fryowa]

Give it a rest

Do we need to do a list of all of the associates, advisors, campaign staffers and his son-in-law's father that Trump pardoned? Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Stephen K. Bannon, and George Papadopoulos to name just a few

One of which he's appointing to be an ambassador.

Hunter was not involved in the White House and a big chunk of Trump's were either involved or will be.

Who cares anymore. You voted for and helped elect a guy that's a multi-time convicted felon, convicted sexual assaulter and you want to bitch about one pardon for his son?

Hunter shouldn't be pardoned, but don't you think Trump would do the same for one of his kids

Hell I'd pardon my own son so I get it. But the list you mentioned were people who got pardoned for specific crimes (also not always good). Hunter got a blanket pardon for an 11 year stretch. Don't you have yo ask yourself what went on during that 1st of 11 years? Something really bad obviously or it would have been a nice rounded 10 year pardon.

Also the left just needs to stop pretending they have some moral high ground. That's the best part of this whole pardon. Seeing people have to eat their words for saying Biden would never do it. Of course he would. He raped Tara Reade, showered with his daughter, and earned the name Pedo Joe from his own kids. He clearly has no moral high ground.

You know what's funny and absurd about this whole thread? You're both wrong and both support "parties" that are terrible for America.

But neither of you can see it and neither can your respective brethren. So here we are.

 

[PCHawk]

Give it a rest

Do we need to do a list of all of the associates, advisors, campaign staffers and his son-in-law's father that Trump pardoned? Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Stephen K. Bannon, and George Papadopoulos to name just a few

One of which he's appointing to be an ambassador.

Hunter was not involved in the White House and a big chunk of Trump's were either involved or will be.

Who cares anymore. You voted for and helped elect a guy that's a multi-time convicted felon, convicted sexual assaulter and you want to bitch about one pardon for his son?

Hunter shouldn't be pardoned, but don't you think Trump would do the same for one of his kids

So you say "multi time convicted felon". Can you name all 34 felonies he has?

 

[PCHawk]

You know what's funny and absurd about this whole thread? You're both wrong and both support "parties" that are terrible for America.

But neither of you can see it and neither can your respective brethren. So here we are.

Which "party" do I support?

 

[Fryowa]

Which "party" do I support?

Lol.

 

[PCHawk]

Lol.

The way you say "both parties" leads me to believe you're talking about democrats and republicans. Both are equally corrupt and I'm not supporting either of those teams. I'm on team Trump who has people from both parties in it.

 

[PCHawk]

I wonder if Hay Man has googled the 34 felonies yet and figured out what they are.

 

[Hawkboys]

Which "party" do I support?

House? Tupperware? Scentsy?

 

[Hawkboys]

Anybody read bi-partisan House report about how COVID likely did come from Wuhan Lab and that masking had some effect (but not nearly as good as hoped) and business closures had major negative effects on economy (duh) as well as teenager mental health?

 

[Hay Man]

You know what's funny and absurd about this whole thread? You're both wrong and both support "parties" that are terrible for America.

But neither of you can see it and neither can your respective brethren. So here we are.

Don't know why you're bringing me in PC's shit??

Presidents can pardon whoever the hell they want, I was pointing out PC being a MAGA loving dumbass with all the crap he spews. You can't come with any fact about Trump without him saying Joe's a pedo or that he raped someone or fantasizes about his daughter.

Do you see the difference Fry? I believe that anyone that does those things is disgustingly terrible and shouldn't be leading anything other than the lunch line in prison. PC wants to deflect and say "look at what Joe did or Kamala said"

I don't care what political party you're in, you do bad and disgusting things, you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the White House. I guess others disagree.

 

[PCHawk]

Don't know why you're bringing me in PC's shit??

Presidents can pardon whoever the hell they want, I was pointing out PC being a MAGA loving dumbass with all the crap he spews. You can't come with any fact about Trump without him saying Joe's a pedo or that he raped someone or fantasizes about his daughter.

Do you see the difference Fry? I believe that anyone that does those things is disgustingly terrible and shouldn't be leading anything other than the lunch line in prison. PC wants to deflect and say "look at what Joe did or Kamala said"

I don't care what political party you're in, you do bad and disgusting things, you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the White House. I guess others disagree.

It's not me deflecting. It's wanting you to acknowledge that Biden is terrible too.

 

[PCHawk]

House? Tupperware? Scentsy?

I definitely do not support Tupperware parties.

 

[PCHawk]

Anybody read bi-partisan House report about how COVID likely did come from Wuhan Lab and that masking had some effect (but not nearly as good as hoped) and business closures had major negative effects on economy (duh) as well as teenager mental health?

Did it talk about the vaccines?

 

[Fryowa]

Don't know why you're bringing me in PC's shit??

Presidents can pardon whoever the hell they want, I was pointing out PC being a MAGA loving dumbass with all the crap he spews. You can't come with any fact about Trump without him saying Joe's a pedo or that he raped someone or fantasizes about his daughter.

Do you see the difference Fry? I believe that anyone that does those things is disgustingly terrible and shouldn't be leading anything other than the lunch line in prison. PC wants to deflect and say "look at what Joe did or Kamala said"

I don't care what political party you're in, you do bad and disgusting things, you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the White House. I guess others disagree.

I didn't bring you in anything, you brought yourself.

Both your stupid parties are the same. A bunch of idiots fighting with each other over shit instead of actually compromising and getting something done. You and every other partisan wacko (left or right) are more concerned with being right and never giving an inch of ground and you'd rather die on a sinking ship than try to work together to save things. You'd rather fall into a civil war than give up a sliver of compromise. Righties would too.

You're all the same, amigo. Just different versions.

 

[Hay Man]

I didn't bring you in anything, you brought yourself.

Both your stupid parties are the same. A bunch of idiots fighting with each other over shit instead of actually compromising and getting something done. You and every other partisan wacko (left or right) are more concerned with being right and never giving an inch of ground and you'd rather die on a sinking ship than try to work together to save things. You'd rather fall into a civil war than give up a sliver of compromise. Righties would too.

You're all the same, amigo. Just different versions.

You don't know shit about me or who I am.

You're always right about everything on here. If you don't like the discussions or arguments, then piss off and do something else.

 

[PCHawk]

Don't know why you're bringing me in PC's shit??

Presidents can pardon whoever the hell they want, I was pointing out PC being a MAGA loving dumbass with all the crap he spews. You can't come with any fact about Trump without him saying Joe's a pedo or that he raped someone or fantasizes about his daughter.

Do you see the difference Fry? I believe that anyone that does those things is disgustingly terrible and shouldn't be leading anything other than the lunch line in prison. PC wants to deflect and say "look at what Joe did or Kamala said"

I don't care what political party you're in, you do bad and disgusting things, you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the White House. I guess others disagree.

This is an interesting post since I originally brought up Biden pardoning his son and you deflected to Trump.

 

[Hay Man]

This is an interesting post since I originally brought up Biden pardoning his son and you deflected to Trump.

Yes, they're both terrible!!!

Look Fry, we're agreeing and being best buds. Do we get Christmas gifts from you now for being good on your board?????