Today's Senior Bowl practice notes

tweeterhawk

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Ricky Stanzi:

Really showed no arm strength in comparison to the other QB’s from the North. Delivers a nice touch pass but cannot zip the ball into wide outs

Christian Ballard:

Building on yesterday’s showing, Ballard was getting skinny on double-teams and showing the ability to split. He is slightly reckless with gap responsbility, but he continued to beat offensive linemen throughout the day. Ballard even rushed the passer once from a two-point stance.

Senior Bowl Practice Reports: North
 


Stanzi evaluation not universally shared; Wes Bunting, director of college scouting for the National Football Post, tweeted: I think that #Iowa QB Ricky Stazni has been best North QB down here...very composed, spins clean football #NFLDRAFT
 


Stanzi evaluation not universally shared; Wes Bunting, director of college scouting for the National Football Post, tweeted: I think that #Iowa QB Ricky Stazni has been best North QB down here...very composed, spins clean football #NFLDRAFT

Strange that there is such a disparity...reading the link you posted, it sounds like Kaepernick is #1 while Locker and Stanzi are competing for a distant #2.
 


Strange that there is such a disparity...reading the link you posted, it sounds like Kaepernick is #1 while Locker and Stanzi are competing for a distant #2.

Jake Locker is going to be a huge bust. I can't believe scouts still have him going in the first round. Yeah he's a very good athlete but he is not accurate at all. Which is a fairly important quality for a QB to have. Every scouting report I've read about the Senior Bowl mentioned that scouts were disappointed in his workouts, have they not been watching him the last couple years? I've never understood the hype around this kid.
 


Jake Locker is going to be a huge bust. I can't believe scouts still have him going in the first round. Yeah he's a very good athlete but he is not accurate at all. Which is a fairly important quality for a QB to have. Every scouting report I've read about the Senior Bowl mentioned that scouts were disappointed in his workouts, have they not been watching him the last couple years? I've never understood the hype around this kid.

Kyle Boller comes to mind for Jake Locker. He was a good athlete with a really strong arm. Where is he now?
 






Someday Ballard will kill a man. And not in that "holy ****, he lost his mind" way. It'll be more like "sorry, coach".
 


Accuracy is something that can improve significantly. Arm strength can really only improve moderately. It's not about connecting on the hail merrys but with the increased speed of the D-backs you gotta be able to hit the quick out on the opposite side of the field.
 


Accuracy is something that can improve significantly. Arm strength can really only improve moderately. It's not about connecting on the hail merrys but with the increased speed of the D-backs you gotta be able to hit the quick out on the opposite side of the field.

JaMarcus Russell agrees completely with this statement. You can't teach the talent required to throw a ball 60 yards from your knees.

Locker spent the last two years playing for a former QB in Steve Sarkisian. If you're still wildly inaccurate after five years in college, you're probably not going to become an accurate NFL QB. And with increased speed all over the field, as you pointed out, the window QB's have to throw the ball into gets much smaller. You can be successful with a weaker arm if you're very accurate (guys like Chad Pennington). Strong arm and poor accuracy does not lead to much success.
 


JaMarcus Russell agrees completely with this statement. You can't teach the talent required to throw a ball 60 yards from your knees.

Locker spent the last two years playing for a former QB in Steve Sarkisian. If you're still wildly inaccurate after five years in college, you're probably not going to become an accurate NFL QB. And with increased speed all over the field, as you pointed out, the window QB's have to throw the ball into gets much smaller. You can be successful with a weaker arm if you're very accurate (guys like Chad Pennington). Strong arm and poor accuracy does not lead to much success.

Case in point: JaMarcus Russell, Kyle Boller, Mike Vick (before his second stint).

What is Locker's best attribute in the college game? Hint: it's not his arm strength. It's his 4.3 40-time. A guy that big and that fast can kill people in college. NFL QB's don't get to just take off and run at the first sign of trouble. They're too valuable. So that takes away the biggest asset that Locker has at his disposal. He's going to be a MAJOR bust unless he switches to a position where his speed and size can be utilized.
 


Stanzi evaluation not universally shared; Wes Bunting, director of college scouting for the National Football Post, tweeted: I think that #Iowa QB Ricky Stazni has been best North QB down here...very composed, spins clean football #NFLDRAFT

Wes Bunting appears to be picking underdogs and hammering the favorites in the hopes that he could be right and get a little pub in the future. He doesn't like Gabbert or Locker but thinks that Stanzi and Kaepernick could be better? Come on. We've all seen Stanzi play for 2 1/2 yrs. He doesn't have accuracy and he doesn't have a strong arm.

Read this article and you tell me if you disagree with much - it's from today:

Jake Locker showed a lot today. He has such great mechanics and it really jumped out in comparison to Ricky Stanzi and Colin Kaepernick. Very natural, fluid motion throughout his setup and release. He looks comfortable taking the snap and scanning the field. And his accuracy today was improved. On a rollout drill Locker was very confident throwing across his body and kept his feet under him when delivering the ball, something the other two QBs didn’t do once. In a red zone drill he consistently fired the ball high to the back line (as designed) with real zip but also catchable balls.

One thing that continues to plague him is throwing sideline routes, particularly to his right. He is consistently well off target on almost every route where the receiver is within about 3 yards of the sideline, as if he’s trying to aim it too much instead of just throwing it. Wednesday was a better demonstration of why some are so very high on him, but I want to see him throw with that sort of ease and accuracy more consistently. Bonus points earned for his positive and encouraging attitude.

The more I watched Ricky Stanzi, the less I liked him. To quote one QB coach standing within earshot, “he’s got a slow armâ€. What that means: His windup and over-the-top shoulder delivery take too much time to get the ball out. It’s not much of an issue on longer throws and in drills, but in live action reps his delivery gives the defense an extra step to read him. It makes him have to gun the ball harder and he loses accuracy and touch when he does so. He also tended to stare down his target, both in drills and live reps. He does throw the best sideline ball of the 3 and he slides forward in the pocket better than his peers, but from what I’ve seen the last two days he’s nothing more than a marginal #2 NFL QB.

Colin Kaepernick is a very different kind of QB. The thing that stands out is his happy feet--he’s always bouncing on his toes but does so with stiff knees, a stark contrast to Locker’s very natural pocket stance. Kaepernick has clearly learned to play this way and I’m sure it’s some function of playing in the offense he did at Nevada. That pistol/read option background reared its ugly head a few times today, when he quickly took off when rushed instead of letting his receivers do some work. But one time he slid to his right to buy time and delivered a strike to Dane Sanzebacher on a deep cross that was exactly where the ball needed to be. Bottom line: he needs a lot of work on NFL-style offense, but the potential is there to become a starting-caliber QB for an offense tailored to his strengths. He’s comparable to Drew Stanton at the same point (who was a 2nd rounder), though his accuracy is better than the Lions backup.

Read more: RealGM Football: Wiretap Archives: Senior Bowl Notebook: Wednesday North Practice
 


I think there is no question Stanzi gets drafted. Intangables are important to have in a player, but if you have lower rated skill set it's not that it's going to competely make up for this.

You'd be crazy to put Stanzi's draft rating higher than Locker though. Not saying currently Stanzi isn't a better overall QB, but Locker simply has higher projected potential.
 






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