Three Mags Out, Iowa Not in Top 25

Iowa isnt underrated. Who did they beat last year? They have to start knocking off the good teams again before Id put them in any poll.
So even if they were 10-0 with our cupcake schedule, you wouldn't put them in the top 25? That seems a little harsh. I could see us not being in the top 10 at 10-0, but we'd have to be at least around 15th or something in that scenario.
 
So even if they were 10-0 with our cupcake schedule, you wouldn't put them in the top 25? That seems a little harsh. I could see us not being in the top 10 at 10-0, but we'd have to be at least around 15th or something in that scenario.
If we somehow escape with a victory against mangino, lazard, and paw, we have to somehow be top 10 at 10-0.
 
No need to wait, it has to be Kansas. I mean Charlie is really building something special over there in Lawrence. Word on the street is, they might even double their win total from last year in the toughest conference in the history of the world this year.

Mizzou and A&M were total cellar dwellers in the Big 12 and yet they have absolutely dominated the SEC. If you put the decent programs from the Big 12, like Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Iowa State and Baylor (of late) in the SEC, the SEC powers would quickly call to restructure the league because they would be exposed.
 
Mizzou and A&M were total cellar dwellers in the Big 12 and yet they have absolutely dominated the SEC. If you put the decent programs from the Big 12, like Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Iowa State and Baylor (of late) in the SEC, the SEC powers would quickly call to restructure the league because they would be exposed.
Mangino would run circles around those hapless SEC defenses. The SEC will never make the mistake of letting a Big 12 school in their league again. They have been exposed. Teams like Alabama and LSU would go 8-4 or 7-5 in league with those teams involved.
 
Somewhat surprised, I thought that these magazines tried to look smart by putting a large emphasis on strength of schedule and using that to help predict regular season records.

If they looked at Iowa's schedule and thought they wouldn't have a terrific record, that says this is a bad team. I have a tough time imagining how any Iowa team of the past 25 years wouldn't have a very good record against this ridiculously easy schedule. No OSU, MI, MSU or PSU and WI and NE at home with a joke preseason schedule and known BIG cupcakes.

It should be a season with a great record (not necessarily a great team). Go Hawks!

The schedule is certainly favorable, but I wouldn't go so far as to say if Iowa doesn't have a terrific record, they are a bad team. What is a terrific record? 8 + wins? 9? 10 or more?

The way I look at the schedule is in different buckets:

Almost sure win
Heavy favorite
Favorite
Pick-em
Slight underdog
Heavy underdog

And here's how I see each opponent

Northern Iowa - favorite to heavy favorite. UNI has good QB and skill positions and first game for at least 5 new starters in the back 7 for Iowa. I could see UNI moving the ball.
Ball State - Favorite. Yes, this is a MAC team but Ball State was also 10-3 last year. They were at 70 last year in the Sagarin ratings (Iowa State was 72). So a game Iowa should win, but not automatic.
Iowa State - Favorite. Some will say Iowa should be a heavy favorite but I don't see it. Iowa led by 20 in the fourth quarter last year but won by 6.
@ Pitt - Pick-em. Pitt is not great, but they were 7-6 last year and finished 55 in the Sagarin ratings. Cosgrove is a good coach and he has some talent at Pitt. First road game, Iowa will be by far the highest profile non-con team Pitt plays. They will be ready. In 2008 a much more talented Iowa team went out there and got beat. Yes, there were mitigating circumstances with the Christensen/Stanzi situation not worked out, but crazy crap happens on the road. Pitt is a legitimate opponent who can physically fight back.
@ Purdue - Favorite. Yes, Iowa won last year at WL by a 38-14 score but it was 14-7 with Purdue's ball in the third quarter. Total crapshoot as to how good/bad Purdue will be in Year 2 under Hazell.
Indiana - Favorite. At home against a team with no defense, Iowa should win. But Indiana's offense is good, and of Iowa bumbles around on offense this could be a game.
@Maryland - Pickem to favorite (slights) . Maryland is a decent team (7-6 last year) and at their place.
Northwestern - Pickem to favorite. It took Northwestern gifting the ball to us at the end of regulation and a great stand by the D to win in OT last year. No Colter is good for Iowa, but Venric Mark is back and Fitz know how to play against Iowa.
@ Minnesota - Slight underdog or pickem, depending upon how both teams have done up to this game. Kill has Iowa marked on the schedule, and Gophers try to do what Iowa does, be physical. Will not be easy.
@ Illinois - Favorite i suppose. Who knows what Illinois will be by this time. Team could be phoning in the end of the Beck era or showing improvement.
Wisconsin - Pick em. Badgers lose a lot, but still have capable people and a good coach.
Nebraska - Pickem or slight favorite. All depends on what each team has and what's at stake. If Nebraska is playing a guy like Kellogg III again I like Iowa's chances.

No games on the schedule that are "highly unlikely" wins, like @OSU last year or against MSU at home. But I see 0 games where Iowa is a shoe-in for a win, even if Iowa shows up not ready to play the Hawks will still win. I put Western Michigan and Missouri State last year as those types of games. Iowa played perhaps its worst game of the year against Missouri State and still won by 14 points. No opponents this year at that level.

Really the season (to me) comes down to health on the offensive line and how rapidly the back 7 on defense can sort things out. Iowa's first 5 on the OL I believe will be really good. But if Scherff/Donnal/Blythe go down with an injury, we are in trouble against good teams. Iowa has quality (not elite) depth at RB, TE, WR and are capable at QB. The offense will be good (by Iowa's standards) if the OL stays healthy.

On defense, the DL is good (not great). I like the athletes at LB but they will not be at Morris/Kirksey/Hitchens level, especially out of the gate. They will need game experience. I like the athletes/possibilities in the secondary, but again Lomax at safety and whoever the other corner is need to play.
 
The schedule is certainly favorable, but I wouldn't go so far as to say if Iowa doesn't have a terrific record, they are a bad team. What is a terrific record? 8 + wins? 9? 10 or more?

The way I look at the schedule is in different buckets:

Almost sure win
Heavy favorite
Favorite
Pick-em
Slight underdog
Heavy underdog

And here's how I see each opponent

Northern Iowa - favorite to heavy favorite. UNI has good QB and skill positions and first game for at least 5 new starters in the back 7 for Iowa. I could see UNI moving the ball.
Ball State - Favorite. Yes, this is a MAC team but Ball State was also 10-3 last year. They were at 70 last year in the Sagarin ratings (Iowa State was 72). So a game Iowa should win, but not automatic.
Iowa State - Favorite. Some will say Iowa should be a heavy favorite but I don't see it. Iowa led by 20 in the fourth quarter last year but won by 6.
@ Pitt - Pick-em. Pitt is not great, but they were 7-6 last year and finished 55 in the Sagarin ratings. Cosgrove is a good coach and he has some talent at Pitt. First road game, Iowa will be by far the highest profile non-con team Pitt plays. They will be ready. In 2008 a much more talented Iowa team went out there and got beat. Yes, there were mitigating circumstances with the Christensen/Stanzi situation not worked out, but crazy crap happens on the road. Pitt is a legitimate opponent who can physically fight back.
@ Purdue - Favorite. Yes, Iowa won last year at WL by a 38-14 score but it was 14-7 with Purdue's ball in the third quarter. Total crapshoot as to how good/bad Purdue will be in Year 2 under Hazell.
Indiana - Favorite. At home against a team with no defense, Iowa should win. But Indiana's offense is good, and of Iowa bumbles around on offense this could be a game.
@Maryland - Pickem to favorite (slights) . Maryland is a decent team (7-6 last year) and at their place.
Northwestern - Pickem to favorite. It took Northwestern gifting the ball to us at the end of regulation and a great stand by the D to win in OT last year. No Colter is good for Iowa, but Venric Mark is back and Fitz know how to play against Iowa.
@ Minnesota - Slight underdog or pickem, depending upon how both teams have done up to this game. Kill has Iowa marked on the schedule, and Gophers try to do what Iowa does, be physical. Will not be easy.
@ Illinois - Favorite i suppose. Who knows what Illinois will be by this time. Team could be phoning in the end of the Beck era or showing improvement.
Wisconsin - Pick em. Badgers lose a lot, but still have capable people and a good coach.
Nebraska - Pickem or slight favorite. All depends on what each team has and what's at stake. If Nebraska is playing a guy like Kellogg III again I like Iowa's chances.

No games on the schedule that are "highly unlikely" wins, like @OSU last year or against MSU at home. But I see 0 games where Iowa is a shoe-in for a win, even if Iowa shows up not ready to play the Hawks will still win. I put Western Michigan and Missouri State last year as those types of games. Iowa played perhaps its worst game of the year against Missouri State and still won by 14 points. No opponents this year at that level.

Really the season (to me) comes down to health on the offensive line and how rapidly the back 7 on defense can sort things out. Iowa's first 5 on the OL I believe will be really good. But if Scherff/Donnal/Blythe go down with an injury, we are in trouble against good teams. Iowa has quality (not elite) depth at RB, TE, WR and are capable at QB. The offense will be good (by Iowa's standards) if the OL stays healthy.

On defense, the DL is good (not great). I like the athletes at LB but they will not be at Morris/Kirksey/Hitchens level, especially out of the gate. They will need game experience. I like the athletes/possibilities in the secondary, but again Lomax at safety and whoever the other corner is need to play.

TL; DR
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That is one pathetic (weak) schedule. Toughest two teams at the end of the year and @ home no less. The Hawks should be disappointed if they are less the 10-2.
 
The last time Iowa had this easy of a schedule was 2006 and 2007 with no Ohio State and Michigan, when they were both very elite teams, and we saw how those seasons ended.
Then, 2009, we have a hard schedule with the road games, and easily beat expectations.
Then, in 2010, we have the same schedule with the home games, and lay a turd.

Not once, that I can remember (I'm 43), has Iowa had a so-called easy schedule and met expectations.
 
The schedule is certainly favorable, but I wouldn't go so far as to say if Iowa doesn't have a terrific record, they are a bad team. What is a terrific record? 8 + wins? 9? 10 or more?

The way I look at the schedule is in different buckets:

Almost sure win
Heavy favorite
Favorite
Pick-em
Slight underdog
Heavy underdog

And here's how I see each opponent

Northern Iowa - favorite to heavy favorite. UNI has good QB and skill positions and first game for at least 5 new starters in the back 7 for Iowa. I could see UNI moving the ball.
Ball State - Favorite. Yes, this is a MAC team but Ball State was also 10-3 last year. They were at 70 last year in the Sagarin ratings (Iowa State was 72). So a game Iowa should win, but not automatic.
Iowa State - Favorite. Some will say Iowa should be a heavy favorite but I don't see it. Iowa led by 20 in the fourth quarter last year but won by 6.
@ Pitt - Pick-em. Pitt is not great, but they were 7-6 last year and finished 55 in the Sagarin ratings. Cosgrove is a good coach and he has some talent at Pitt. First road game, Iowa will be by far the highest profile non-con team Pitt plays. They will be ready. In 2008 a much more talented Iowa team went out there and got beat. Yes, there were mitigating circumstances with the Christensen/Stanzi situation not worked out, but crazy crap happens on the road. Pitt is a legitimate opponent who can physically fight back.
@ Purdue - Favorite. Yes, Iowa won last year at WL by a 38-14 score but it was 14-7 with Purdue's ball in the third quarter. Total crapshoot as to how good/bad Purdue will be in Year 2 under Hazell.
Indiana - Favorite. At home against a team with no defense, Iowa should win. But Indiana's offense is good, and of Iowa bumbles around on offense this could be a game.
@Maryland - Pickem to favorite (slights) . Maryland is a decent team (7-6 last year) and at their place.
Northwestern - Pickem to favorite. It took Northwestern gifting the ball to us at the end of regulation and a great stand by the D to win in OT last year. No Colter is good for Iowa, but Venric Mark is back and Fitz know how to play against Iowa.
@ Minnesota - Slight underdog or pickem, depending upon how both teams have done up to this game. Kill has Iowa marked on the schedule, and Gophers try to do what Iowa does, be physical. Will not be easy.
@ Illinois - Favorite i suppose. Who knows what Illinois will be by this time. Team could be phoning in the end of the Beck era or showing improvement.
Wisconsin - Pick em. Badgers lose a lot, but still have capable people and a good coach.
Nebraska - Pickem or slight favorite. All depends on what each team has and what's at stake. If Nebraska is playing a guy like Kellogg III again I like Iowa's chances.

No games on the schedule that are "highly unlikely" wins, like @OSU last year or against MSU at home. But I see 0 games where Iowa is a shoe-in for a win, even if Iowa shows up not ready to play the Hawks will still win. I put Western Michigan and Missouri State last year as those types of games. Iowa played perhaps its worst game of the year against Missouri State and still won by 14 points. No opponents this year at that level.

Really the season (to me) comes down to health on the offensive line and how rapidly the back 7 on defense can sort things out. Iowa's first 5 on the OL I believe will be really good. But if Scherff/Donnal/Blythe go down with an injury, we are in trouble against good teams. Iowa has quality (not elite) depth at RB, TE, WR and are capable at QB. The offense will be good (by Iowa's standards) if the OL stays healthy.

On defense, the DL is good (not great). I like the athletes at LB but they will not be at Morris/Kirksey/Hitchens level, especially out of the gate. They will need game experience. I like the athletes/possibilities in the secondary, but again Lomax at safety and whoever the other corner is need to play.



Dodger...I am not disagreeing with your post, because I think you provided good and accurate detail. Your post is just a good post for me to quote to put my point of view out there. So, this isn't a rebuttal to your post.

At what point can Iowa fans rely on 15 returning starters to go dominate teams they should and take a season the way it should? Iowa has close to the most returning starters in the B1G/West, yet no one is picking them to win it. This speaks to either: 1) Iowa's national reputation (which recruits are likely aware of) being poor, from a program talent perspective, or, 2) Iowa's talent level really IS lower than WUs/kNU, etc. WUs has 8 total starters returning and we have 15. kNU and the Goophers will have new starting qb's, we have a returning starter. We give Ball State credit for being a good team and; therefore, could come to Kinnick and play us tough. Why? PITT was 7-6 last season. We were 8-5. While I understand this is an early season roadie, why do we have a mentality that it'd an ok or understandable loss, if it happens?

This years Iowa team has talent. With the schedule we have, we should win at least 10 games and win the West. I would never predict an undefeated season, but it would be difficult for me to believe there are 2 losses on Iowa's schedule.
 
Iowa will probably be favored in most games, but not by much, so an upset is always a possibility. The gap is not that big among teams not named OSU in this league. I am optimistic, but realize that we have a small margin for error....turnovers are difficult to predict and they can cost wins very easily.
 
Don't look know, but guess which team got ten points in the latest AP poll, unofficially ranking them 36th.
 
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/football/radar

I am mildly surprised by this...but given Iowa's history, perhaps it's best.

Not even surprised. Its one of the things the pollsters have gotten right. Iowa is not a top 25 team. They have not shown a lot of spark. No dominating performances. Individually or as a team. Michigan, Nebraska were maybe top 20-25 teams before the season started. Even then it was debatable. Michigan getting manhandled by Notre Dame put a lot of doubts in their ranking.

Ohio State is not a top 10 team. Never should have been.
 

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