This Week's Poll: The Most Painful KF Era Losses

[Section136]

^ correct, how can slickwillard bash on Drew Tate. He helped win a b1G championship and he had us in contention to win many more games that the coaching staff's conservative playcalling and defense lost.

Also, tate had a ton of balls dropped in 05 but especially in 06.

I think Drew Tate was very frustrated especially in 06 with the drops and the coaches conservative nature.

Willard is a Clone fan.

 

[whammer33024]

05 michigan-i hate michigan

10 wisconsin-never heard kinnick like that before and it didn't matter in the end. fake punt still makes me sick

09 northwestern-watching dick lay there, complete silence in the stadium, awful. watching JVB accomplish absolutely nothing. perfect season gone.

 

[Section136]

There is no question that we had two undefeated teams if we dont blow the 2002 game to ISU and the '09 NW and Ohio St games.

Ya dont say? We dont lose the 1 game we lost in 2002 and dont lose the 2 games we lost in 2009 and we would have 2 undefeated regular seasons.

Same could be said about those 3 games we lost in 2003 or the 2 we lost in 2004. KF could have like 13 straight undefeated, national championship teams if we didnt have all those losses in those seasons.

 

[David79]

How would an interception in that final minute have been worse than an interception in OT? The risks of an interception didn't change by sitting on the ball. We faced all the same downside in OT, but we reduced the upside of having the ball last with a chance to win. It was a terrible decision strategically. And I also think it gave a psychological boost to OSU and a psychological blow to our team.

The other stuff you mention was also big, but it's easier to live with physical mistakes than mental ones. That's what made that one (and the Wisconsin loss) so painful.

Because Iowa started with the ball on their 33. An interception could have easily turned into points for OSU. There is a much lower risk in OT because you are starting on the opponents 25 yard line with no clock running. In this the safer approach and also the one that gave them the best chance of winning. I just wouldn't put the game in the hands of a freshman QB who had already thrown 3 ints and nearly a 4th on the road at OSU. If it would have been Stanzi playing the coaches probably would have tried move the ball through the air and get in position.

Also, dropped passes and missed 22 yard FGs are mental mistakes, at least that is the way I see it. They were phsyically capable of making those plays but because of a lack of concentration they were botched.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Did you guys know Kurt has never beaten ISU and Northwestern in the same season? For those of you with expectations beyond getting trashed in the parking lot with your buddies prior to and after the game, I ask you - do you really think Iowa will ever beat ISU and Northwestern in a season and win the three or four big games needed to get some real hardware? Sure, the Orange Bowl thing is cute, but even Kansas won one of those.

 

[HobbieHawk]

I don't have a problem with taking a knee at the end of OSU game. Vandenberg had thrown 3 ints and nearly another one. What killed Iowa in that game was the dropped TD by Stross, they missed a freakin 22 yard FG, and the offense absolutely sucked in OT.

All they did in OT was throw the kitchen-sink blitz at us. Against a Freshman QB in whom our coach has already shown no confidence vis a vis sitting on the ball and taking it to OT.
Just pinned their ears back and sold out.

And not anticipating that was yet another coaching failure

 

[herky01]

I was there too. Their fans were giant di*ks. I'm glad we had a cab lined up and were able to get out of there fairly quick.

Worst fans in America. I didn't think I was going to get to my car alive. Tucson is a S***hole...

 

[David79]

All they did in OT was throw the kitchen-sink blitz at us. Against a Freshman QB in whom our coach has already shown no confidence vis a vis sitting on the ball and taking it to OT.
Just pinned their ears back and sold out.

And not anticipating that was yet another coaching failure

That was a failure of the QB. Vandenberg still struggles with pressue especially on the road.

And I don't remember them blitzing on every play in OT but maybe you are right.

 

[eveningnewsteam]

That was a failure of the QB. Vandenberg still struggles with pressue especially on the road.

And I don't remember them blitzing on every play in OT but maybe you are right.

Ohio St couldnt have played a worse defensive scheme that day, they should have brought the house all day long.

 

[ssckelley]

Did you guys know Kurt has never beaten ISU and Northwestern in the same season? For those of you with expectations beyond getting trashed in the parking lot with your buddies prior to and after the game, I ask you - do you really think Iowa will ever beat ISU and Northwestern in a season and win the three or four big games needed to get some real hardware? Sure, the Orange Bowl thing is cute, but even Kansas won one of those.

Yeah that Orange Bowl trophy looks like crap in our trophy case.

Where does Northwestern keep that 1948 Rose Bowl trophy? Is it sitting in a huge trophy case all alone or did they just build a small case to put it in? I am sure looking at that trophy must be the highlight of any recruit visiting campus.

BTW, I do miss all those radio ads on TheScore where they have to remind everyone that Northwestern is the Big Ten school of Chicago.

 

[hawkfan340]

Because Iowa started with the ball on their 33. An interception could have easily turned into points for OSU. There is a much lower risk in OT because you are starting on the opponents 25 yard line with no clock running. In this the safer approach and also the one that gave them the best chance of winning. I just wouldn't put the game in the hands of a freshman QB who had already thrown 3 ints and nearly a 4th on the road at OSU. If it would have been Stanzi playing the coaches probably would have tried move the ball through the air and get in position.

Also, dropped passes and missed 22 yard FGs are mental mistakes, at least that is the way I see it. They were phsyically capable of making those plays but because of a lack of concentration they were botched.

No. If you throw a pick in OT, you're done. If you throw a pick in regulation, you're probably done as well. Either way an interception probably loses the game. Moving the game to OT didn't mitigate our interception risk at all.

That whole argument of "don't put it in freshman JVB's hands" is based on a false premise. The game is in his hands no matter what, regulation or OT. That part couldn't be changed. What did change was the fact that we then gave OSU equal footing in OT. Terrible decision.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Yeah that Orange Bowl trophy looks like crap in our trophy case.

Where does Northwestern keep that 1948 Rose Bowl trophy? Is it sitting in a huge trophy case all alone or did they just build a small case to put it in? I am sure looking at that trophy must be the highlight of any recruit visiting campus.

BTW, I do miss all those radio ads on TheScore where they have to remind everyone that Northwestern is the Big Ten school of Chicago.

Northwestern's bowl record has nothing to do with my question.

 

[theboat]

I picked ISU 02, Wisc 10, and NW 2005.

I admit that NW 2005 is probably not huge to a lot of people, but I got married that day and I turned off the radie with a few minutes left and iowa firmly in control, then after the ceremony I was pi$$ed when I heard they lost.

 

[okeefe4prez]

No. If you throw a pick in OT, you're done. If you throw a pick in regulation, you're probably done as well. Either way an interception probably loses the game. Moving the game to OT didn't mitigate our interception risk at all.

That whole argument of "don't put it in freshman JVB's hands" is based on a false premise. The game is in his hands no matter what, regulation or OT. That part couldn't be changed. What did change was the fact that we then gave OSU equal footing in OT. Terrible decision.

Please, just drop it. Iowa wasn't going to win at C-bus that day no matter what. Hayden used to win there on occasion and was generally competitive, but Kurt ain't Hayden.

 

[thejumper5]

Of the three weeks of polls, this one was fairly easy for me. I focused on remembering how I felt that day.

1. '05 Michigan. Taking the ACT that morning didn't help matters any.
2. '09 Northwestern. I was sad when Stanzi got hurt. I was angry when Wegher's long TD run got called back for a non-existent hold.
3. '07 Western Michigan. What needs to be said has been said.

The next few would be '09 Ohio State, '05 Iowa State, '05 Northwestern, and '05 vs. Florida (Jan 1, '06).

 

[David79]

No. If you throw a pick in OT, you're done. If you throw a pick in regulation, you're probably done as well. Either way an interception probably loses the game. Moving the game to OT didn't mitigate our interception risk at all.

That whole argument of "don't put it in freshman JVB's hands" is based on a false premise. The game is in his hands no matter what, regulation or OT. That part couldn't be changed. What did change was the fact that we then gave OSU equal footing in OT. Terrible decision.

What I meant by putting the game in his hands is that he is forced to make a big play or plays to get the ball down the field whereas in OT the game is technically "in his hands" but they can call plays that take the pressure off of him including more underneath passing routes, running plays, etc. so he is not forced to throw it downfield. It is all about context. There are some situations that are better to put your freshman qb in and some that are bad. It is all about context. But maybe you don't understand context and that is why you thought I was saying the game wasn't "in his hands" in overtime.

 

[HomerChampless]

I don't know about loses under KF, but it seemed most B1G games involving Iowa were painful for me to watch...

Most times, either the offense was too enemic, or the defense gave up too many passing yards.

 

[Smarthawk]

The Wisconsin loss in 2010 completely left me demoralized. I couldn't talk after that and it ruined the season.

 

[eveningnewsteam]

The Wisconsin loss in 2010 completely left me demoralized. I couldn't talk after that and it ruined the season.

Ive been physically numb twice walking out of Kinnick where I couldnt ever speak: Michigan 2005 and Wisconsin 2010

 

[hogeye]

Michigan 2005 was the quietest I have ever heard Kinnick after a game.