Stanley had an adjusted QBR of 89.1, including over 10 ypa, against Wisconsin which was the highest of the year. His best game last year was against tOSU. The whole narrative that Stanley chokes against better competition is completely false and ridiculous.
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There is a difference between simply just not having as good of numbers against better defenses and on the other hand you can't complete simple passes against better competition with what Stanley struggles with. It is like all of footwork and mechanics go out the window.
You have to let the revisionist history play out for a couple of weeks for people start getting back to logic. Apparently people are forgetting that in his SR year CJ was bailing out of the pocket way too soon on many occasions and even did the duck and cover/eat the ball too early a few times.
Stanley will at least stand tall in the pocket and take a hit but nobody wants to talk about that because Iowa's 2 losses this season ended on INTs basically. Never mind that one INT bounced off ISM's hands and on another Fant wasn't looking for the ball. Interesting, ISM dropping a pass and Fant involved in a blown assignment, go figure. That stuff never happens...
Wisconsin's defense isn't that good this year. Yeah, he had a good game against OSU last year. But that is the exception not the rule. The majority of games in his career he is a below average QB.
InGoodCo
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it's almost like he's 21 years old or something. I remember bad games from Tate, Stanzi and CJ - and they were against the better teams in bigger games too, some against some bad teams too. But those guys were clutch and Stanley is a guy who trips over his shoe laces in big games. It's almost like Stanley hasn't been given the opportunity yet to finish his story.
I never said all those guys were clutch. They had their bad moments. But I would definitely say they are all better than Nate. It isn't just against better teams that he looks really bad either.
Accuracy isn't typically something that gets a ton better. He has played a season and a half and he is still wildly inaccurate. He was a sub 50% passer his senior year in HS. I like the kid. Seems like a good kid and teammate. But overall he is an average QB. He misses more open guys than I have ever seen at Iowa. Christensen is the only one I can remember that struggled with accuracy as much as Nate. He as 21 starts under his belt. he is still a 55% passer.
I will root for him on Saturday though and hope he has a good game.
MoseSchrute
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Which is another head-scratcher. Iowa should be able to recruit top-notch rb's every year. If you are an RB and you go to Iowa, you know you are going to be featured, or in competition to do so..
I agree. This is one of the things I have always wondered about. Why can't they recruit stud RBs to play at Iowa? Look at the run of RBs that Wisconsin has had.
Wisconsin has a much better defense, at least statistically, than Penn State. Wisconsin is 19th in pass defense and PSU is 55th.
Yeah, Penn State has given up a ton of yards through the air which is another disappointing aspect of the game. But if you look at defensive efficiency Penn State is ranked 25th in the country. Wisconsin 44th.
InGoodCo
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Yeah, you didn't, but a lot of revisionist on here have been, so sorry if I made that like it was meant for just you. I do agree, accuracy hasn't been there, but TD's sure have been. His QBR is on par with the other guys we're discussing. He's not done yet and that's my bigger point. He could beat Purdue this weekend, win out, win the B1G or win a Rose Bowl this season and suddenly he's the GOAT instead of the guy that struggles against better competition. It's too early to say where he ranks. He had a terrible game last week, my point is - so has everyone.
Ree4
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Oh I know, I've seen him say it but there's something else at play here is what I'm saying, he doesn't have as many typing errors as would be expected but a lot of broken English
Knight78
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Not good. Chuck was 17-34 for 169 yards and 4 INTs. That plus one of his completions had a fumble at the end of it. Chuck also fumbled two snaps; didn't lose them but still fumbled them.
I recall Iowa losing to NDSU when CJ was QB and Nate came in and sparked it, but was replaced with CJ. That burned his redshirt. Every QB will have bad games, some their fault and some team failure including coaching.
Tom Brady as a junior in college was 62% for 2,427 yards; 14 TDs and 10 picks with a 133.1 rating. Nate last year was 56% for 2,632 yards (1 more game than Brady); 26 TDs 6 picks and 135.1 rating. Brady had some NFL receivers on that squad also. So there is no real difference here other than that Nate was a TD machine in 2017.
Some of us are old enough to remember watching that game on tv. Heart breaker! Love Chuck Long.
yeah but the pay probably is not as good as can be had elsewhere.
We remember LSU in Cap One. Endears Tate to all fans. Drew was the kid on the playground going all out. The fiery leader. I am on board with everything you are stating. Let's see how the rest plays out. I believe in Nate as our QB.
Nate will be fine.
Our passing game was about the worst in the country last year. It has definitely improved but you are going to have growing pains as the play book opens up for more players. There are so many other factors as well, how fast is the wr, how crisp of routes. Yes we are still seeing inconsistent play, but I don't think anyone would argue it's worse than last year. Just look at how many players have been targeted this year compared to last year. That takes work. Lot's and lot's of work playing catch.
Our passing game was about the worst in the country last year. It has definitely improved but you are going to have growing pains as the play book opens up for more players. There are so many other factors as well, how fast is the wr, how crisp of routes. Yes we are still seeing inconsistent play, but I don't think anyone would argue it's worse than last year. Just look at how many players have been targeted this year compared to last year. That takes work. Lot's and lot's of work playing catch.
