This looks to be the winter or our discontent

[deanvogs]

Nah we already got the PG we needed anyways

We got a player who wanted to be a Iowa Hawkeye.....you can keep cheering for Moore if you want, I'll cheer for Hawk players.

 

[Hawk5656]

We got a player who wanted to be a Iowa Hawkeye.....you can keep cheering for Moore if you want, I'll cheer for Hawk players.

I'm not cheering for Moore

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

Every thread guys? c'mon.

 

[Hawk4Fan]

Fran would have loved to get a visit......just not through the handlers.

Believe whatever you want, I have tried to explain this to you before. Charlie Moore was never going to come to Iowa. Any player who uses handlers, and won't eliminate them from the process won't be coming to Iowa under Fran. It is what it is, Fran gets to choose if he wants to deal in those waters, and he chooses not to.

and that in itself is a foolish STUPID decision

 

[Hawk5656]

and that in itself is a foolish STUPID decision

Yep, this is big boy basketball and you have to learn to play the recruiting game with handlers if that player fills a need

 

[deanvogs]

Yep, this is big boy basketball and you have to learn to play the recruiting game with handlers if that player fills a need

You should probably let Fran know this. I mean it sounds like you know about about recruiting and how to swim around in the muddy waters. I mean Fran has only been recruiting for decades.....I'm sure he could use your advice here.

 

[Hawk5656]

You should probably let Fran know this. I mean it sounds like you know about about recruiting and how to swim around in the muddy waters. I mean Fran has only been recruiting for decades.....I'm sure he could use your advice here.

And he's never been considered a good recruiter

 

[deanvogs]

And he's never been considered a good recruiter

So you become a good recruiter by playing ball with handlers? Frans struggle in recruiting has nothing to do with avoiding handlers. Lots of coaches and most of the B1G don't swim in those waters, you do understand that, right? There is a reason LSU, SMU, Cal, and GT (with Pastner) got visits, and other schools that reached out didn't go far (Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois, Seton Hall).

 

[Hawk5656]

So you become a good recruiter by playing ball with handlers? Frans struggle in recruiting has nothing to do with avoiding handlers. Lots of coaches and most of the B1G don't swim in those waters, you do understand that, right? There is a reason LSU, SMU, Cal, and GT (with Pastner) got visits, and other schools that reached out didn't go far (Wisconsin, Northwestern, Illinois, Seton Hall).

I don't think a lot of the good coaches in the B1G just eliminate kids from the recruitment process because they have handlers

 

[deanvogs]

I don't think a lot of the good coaches in the B1G just eliminate kids from the recruitment process because they have handlers

Who said Fran eliminated the kid just because he had handlers? It seems to me that Fran tried like crazy to work around them.....just didn't work out, and at a certain point Fran cut bait.

 

[thedukeofearl]

Every thread guys? c'mon.

 

[Hawk5656]

Who said Fran eliminated the kid just because he had handlers? It seems to me that Fran tried like crazy to work around them.....just didn't work out, and at a certain point Fran cut bait.

You did

 

[Hawk5656]

It doesn't matter how many time he visited, once the handlers were involved our chances dropped to 0%.

See you said it

 

[deanvogs]

See you said it

Chances of signing a kid was 0%.....not because Fran didn't try like hell to get around the handlers.

I know you get it, you are just being belligerent as usual. Maybe Iowas good win will soften you a little and you can just let go of the fact that Charlie is not a Hawk.

 

[blubberhawk]

Chances of signing a kid was 0%.....not because Fran didn't try like hell to get around the handlers.

I know you get it, you are just being belligerent as usual. Maybe Iowas good win will soften you a little and you can just let go of the fact that Charlie is not a Hawk.

I am now content and will enjoy the rest of the winter, immensely.

 

[homes]

Unless and until they actually start playing defense, as opposed to just talking about needing to play defense, this is going to be a long winter. The light can go on - look at how the football team switched it on for the last 3 games - but, so far, this team hasn't shown the willingess to do so, as that's what good defense is about.

Replying to myself, it looks like they turned the switch on. It's all about playing good defense. For a young team, it's now about sustaining that level. Maybe the winter won't be so long.

 

[lightning1]

I don't think a lot of the good coaches in the B1G just eliminate kids from the recruitment process because they have handlers

If Crean did that Indiana would be a losing program.

 

[Joshbrown]

Every thread guys? c'mon.

What a ****in joke. Do you notice who provokes him? Trolls threads looking for a fight with him? Wake the **** up.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

What a ****in joke. Do you notice who provokes him? Trolls threads looking for a fight with him? Wake the **** up.

Provocation? who would dare do that here? unthinkable.

That'd be like trying to get a rise out out folks by making wild zero sum statements or baiting people.

Full hearts, clear eyes...can't lose...

 

[HuckFinn]

And he's never been considered a good recruiter

By whom? Evidence? If its your opinion or speculation, fine. But, you don't have a right to create facts to fit your narrative.