This is why a cop escorts an ejected coach or player

tweeterhawk

tweeterhawk

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Some posters here are calling it bush league for a police officer to escort Fran from the floor in last night's game but this is why it is standard procedure to have officers situated near courtside to help address problems on and off the floor. This example provided courtesy of none other than Tim Floyd.

No, Fran likely was not going to go postal on the refs, although he did get in the face of one of them as he was walking off the floor. I thought it was very appropriate for the officer to escort Fran, for the ref's sake and for Fran's sake as he passed fairly hostile UNI fans on the way to the locker room.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZysiJrTLLQ]Tim Floyd and Phil Johnson ejected from UTEP game - YouTube[/ame]
 
Yeah the guy sitting directly in front of me decided to go down to the 2nd row and get in Frans face as he was leaving. A guy probably in his 50's acting like an idiot. Of course this brought out my maturity level as I started jawing out loud how much the officials sucked in this game. He kept muttering crap back at me but I could not make out what he was saying.

Bottom line it was more of an escort versus cuffing him up and dragging him off the court. The atmosphere was extremely tense and it would have been a shame to see something stupid happen.
 
Yeah the ref tossed the ball the the FT shooter, then he casually strolls over to Floyd and T's him up. What a pompous azz, as most refs are. They need to realize they are not the center of attention. The players and the games are, not the refs.
 
totally appropriate for Fran to be escorted off...in a hostile environment it prevents something stupid and reactionary from both sides happening.
 
My only problem, tweeter, is that he should have been given more time. And then, if he wasn't leaving or if his behavior was escalating, then he should have been escorted.

I stand by it that it was bush league to have it unfold the way it did. But then those officials didn't handle the whole situation very well because most refs would have done things in a different manner so thatr there weren't all of those Ts in one minute of game time. There is a reason you never see that happen and it isn't because our coach is a bigger problem than anyone else in the country. The officials handled it poorly, and for that matter the assistant coaches are responsible for keeping things in tact after the head coach goes off. They didn't do that.
 
Thawki said:
My only problem, tweeter, is that he should have been given more time. And then, if he wasn't leaving or if his behavior was escalating, then he should have been escorted.

I stand by it that it was bush league to have it unfold the way it did. But then those officials didn't handle the whole situation very well because most refs would have done things in a different manner so thatr there weren't all of those Ts in one minute of game time. There is a reason you never see that happen and it isn't because our coach is a bigger problem than anyone else in the country. The officials handled it poorly, and for that matter the assistant coaches are responsible for keeping things in tact after the head coach goes off. They didn't do that.
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Good point! Fire Francis, Speraw and Sherm!!!
 
love the focus on refs in this sport is baffles me...always used as an excuse for the losing team

sad crutch to have
 
pin2win said:
love the focus on refs in this sport is baffles me...always used as an excuse for the losing team

sad crutch to have
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yeah that's always my opinion, you have to stay calm and collected, Good teams and coaches...they will overcome the refs. It's the teams that start "blaming the refs" are the ones that cannot overcome it. Officiating was awful but you can't give up like we did last night.
 
Security is supposed to escort the coach off. But it doesn't happen very often that they have to come onto the court to do it.

Higgins overreacted when he motioned for security. Fran and the refs in the game have a history. It was overreaction and bush league. There was nothing going on after his 2nd T that would condone security to come onto the court.
 
pin2win said:
love the focus on refs in this sport is baffles me...always used as an excuse for the losing team

sad crutch to have
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Its more sad when they affect the outcome.
It was one of the most heinous displays of officiating I have ever seen. Even with how poor the refs were, Iowa was still down just 1 point with 10 minutes to go. Think of how different the score could have been without the painfully obvious bad calls? Then the refs let the emotion get the best of them, handing out not 1, but 2 Ts to the Fran and the bench and then following it up with another to McCabe 20 seconds later. Then continued their barrage of bad calls.

Blaming the refs for a loss looks petty, but in the case, they absolutely had an effect on the outcome. To say otherwise is ignorant to what happened on the court. 33 FTs to 9 FTs. UNI is perimeter oriented and somehow gets almost 4x the amount of shots from the charity stripe. It was bad. Really bad.

Fran should have been able to keep his cool, but so many other coaches in his position would have gotten T'd too... it was just ridiculous what was happening on the court. Players being shoved to the floor, forearms thrown, etc... it was bad.
 
pin2win said:
love the focus on refs in this sport is baffles me...always used as an excuse for the losing team

sad crutch to have
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It's because they are generally poor. Stop calling the automatic contact fouls (like if the defender slaps at the offensive player on a fast break (even without contact), its always called), stop blowing the whistle before the foul even happens, stop putting people on the line for on the floor fouls, and that would be a start to getting some respect back for officials.
 
in my opinion they should stop calling less fouls and more traveling calls

kids are walking around with the ball practically its a joke
 
Yet I think Iowa is the only team I ever see getting called for palming as Marble did last night, when literally every one is doing it.
 
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