This is what Kirk Ferentz does not understand about college football

[Bigtenchamp]

honestly its amazing the lengths people go to make excuses for the lack of scoring.

It's astonishing.

Btw as I mentioned earlier Jon has posted similar things to this before.... about the offensive failures.

 

[DBAHawkFan]

honestly its amazing the lengths people go to make excuses for the lack of scoring.

It's astonishing.

Btw as I mentioned earlier Jon has posted similar things to this before.... about the offensive failures.

It is on the offense. I think people have either accepted it and just try to deal with it (either by keeping quiet or making excuses) or they are critical and then are called negative

This is how Iowa plays football. It isn't going to change. We've brought in different coaches and yet we still suffer from same problems as before.

It isn't the asst coaches, it's KF. People expecting things to be different next year are crazy. We may be a little better again, but it'll be same gameplan and same last min drives to win or seal victory

 

[ohhawk]

Then why bring a guy like Davis in?

That's a good question that only Mr. Ferentz could answer. I remember some of the first words out of Davis' mouth after a few practices were something about his observation about our lack of speed. I haven't seen much since then that would indicate we've made a lot of progress with game breaking speed at the skill positions. Seems like we've made an emphasis to add speed in the last recruiting class or two. Guess time will tell.

I also seem to remember that Ferentz indicated that what he liked about Davis that led to his hiring was his ability to adapt. Well that's still very debatable but at least we're showing progress with the offense vs. last year.

From the press conf. following the Davis hire.......

“Greg’s units have demonstrated impressive production and they have done so using a variety of systems and styles — he has done an outstanding job of playing towards the strengths and abilities of the players with which he has worked,â€￾ Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz said in a press release.

.........2/27/2012 ICPC

 

[blubberhawk]

honestly its amazing the lengths people go to make excuses for the lack of scoring.

It's astonishing.

Btw as I mentioned earlier Jon has posted similar things to this before.... about the offensive failures.

I agree with you totally on the scoring.
We were playing at home and managed 17 points against a pretty suspect NW defense. (and it took an extra period to get to that)
NW gave up 21 points to Maine. Western Michigan is God awful and scored 17 against NW. . Syracuse is poor and scored 27. Cal is 1-7 and scored 30.
Something has to change. It was great that we got a win Saturday. We need to improve a ton, offensively if we are to be anymore than a 6-6 team.

 

[Bigtenchamp]

I agree with you totally on the scoring.
We were playing at home and managed 17 points against a pretty suspect NW defense. (and it took an extra period to get to that)
NW gave up 21 points to Maine. Western Michigan is God awful and scored 17 against NW. . Syracuse is poor and scored 27. Cal is 1-7 and scored 30.
Something has to change. It was great that we got a win Saturday. We need to improve a ton, offensively if we are to be anymore than a 6-6 team.

It's been the same way for a long time - one factor is that Ferentz will not go for points at the end of the half...

Even though historically the defenses play soft and overwhelmingly the offense gets at least a field goal.

Yet he will never try in fear of some mistake (which statistically rarely ever happens).

 

[ChosenChildren]

you want me to post the other 8 losses at home in our 5-13 home record over the last couple years?

I'm happy we won also but - doesn't change reality.

Iowa is not 5-13 at home in their last 18 home games.

They are 10-8 in their last 18 home games and 13-8 at home for seasons 2010,11,12 and 13 to date.

You make many misstatements and outright lies to back up your arguments. That is unfair and misleading.

Ferentz has won over 65% of his games at Iowa starting with the 2001 season.

No Iowa coach since Howard Jones in the 1920s has had a higher winning percentage.

Be careful what you wish for. Nebraska has never approached the Solich years since they fired "boring" Frank Solich.

Ferentz has been a great coach for Iowa.

 

[ChosenChildren]

Iowa is not 5-13 at home in their last 18 home games.

They are 10-8 in their last 18 home games and 13-8 at home for seasons 2010,11,12 and 13 to date.

You make many misstatements and outright lies to back up your arguments. That is unfair and misleading.

Ferentz has won over 65% of his games at Iowa starting with the 2001 season.

No Iowa coach since Howard Jones in the 1920s has had a higher winning percentage.

Be careful what you wish for. Nebraska has never approached the Solich years since they fired "boring" Frank Solich.

Ferentz has been a great coach for Iowa.

Here are the Iowa home records since 2009:

1. 2010 5-2
2. 2011 6-1
3. 2012 2-5
4. 2013 3-2

That is 16 wins and 10 losses. If you throw out 2010, they are 11-8 the past 3 seasons and 10-8 in the most recent 18. Not great; but not 5-13 as the OP claims.

Please get your facts straight before you throw the coach under the bus

 

[craig56]

Our loses are because of a pathetic offense that relies on running the ball successfully and if we don't we usually lose. Last years 4-8 record I checked each opponents offensive scoring against all of their opponents through out the year. Our defense held them to the lowest or second lowest offensive scoring out put for their season. That is great consistency and the coaches should be acknowledged for that great effort. Our offense is just the opposite as just shown in the Northwestern win scoring only 10 points in regulation.

 

[leiserom]

I have been a University of Houston season ticket holder for several years. go to most games unless they conflict with Iowa which they rarely do. While fun to watch the last few years little defense was played. Been to one game this year and they are actually playing good defense. To me its actually more fun to watch games where defense is played rather than these shootouts. Going Thursday night at Reliant. Then flying Friday to DM and going to Kinnick saturday.

 

[herkyhere]

If you don't run the ball you lose? I would say Iowa's lack of a fluid passing game is why they lose. Has nothing to do with formation or play call. It's all about rythym and timing. For some reason iowa is very inconsistent in passing. It's not as simple as running better plays or getting better players, both would help at times, but it's somewhat baffling to me how good they can look and then the next drive look so out of it. I think confidence/swagger (I hate that word but can't think of a better word). They need to get a little cocky and maybe they'll be more confident. A better passing game would prevent 8 guys being stacked in the box.

 

[NCHawker]

Light up the scoreboard and the media and the recruits will notice.

does not mean that you can't still play great defense.

NCH

 

[DDThompson]

Put Ws on the scoreboard and the media and the recruits will notice.

does not mean that you can't still play smash mouth football.

 

[SpiderRico]

I agree with you totally on the scoring.
We were playing at home and managed 17 points against a pretty suspect NW defense. (and it took an extra period to get to that)
NW gave up 21 points to Maine. Western Michigan is God awful and scored 17 against NW. . Syracuse is poor and scored 27. Cal is 1-7 and scored 30.
Something has to change. It was great that we got a win Saturday. We need to improve a ton, offensively if we are to be anymore than a 6-6 team.

Hmmm....can you tell me what the difference is between our game with NW on Saturday and the teams you compared us to above?

I'll give you a hint....it starts with a "W" and ends with an "N".

 

[MiniMoeHawk]

That is how LSU wins games, with their defense and special teams scoring.

KF is not BAD, Tim Beckman is BAD...there are a lot of BAD coaches out there. I am not going to say I think KF is GREAT or anything, but there are worse coaches out there...Charlie Weis is pretty awesome, he is doing wonders out there in Kansas, guess they should have just stuck with Mangina.

False, LSU brought in Cam Cameron and LSU is having one of their best seasons offensively. Their defense is down as opposed to most years.

 

[MiniMoeHawk]

Lol you are trying to say Baylor is bad and plays bad schools?

Evidently you haven't been paying attention to the big ten the last few years.

Pretty much everyone thinks we are the weakest "big" conference.

Baylor's offense as a whole is just as good as Oregon's offense, if not better. Don't sleep on Baylor since they have played cupcakes all year long.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Baylor's offense as a whole is just as good as Oregon's offense, if not better. Don't sleep on Baylor since they have played cupcakes all year long.

Please put this stuff in the rivalry forum. Don't bash Iowa State on the main board or else we'll end up with half of Story County posting in here about how ISU is a program on the rise and how the new weight room will put them on par with Texas and Oklahoma by 2015.

 

[HawkeyeMcNutt]

and costs them so many wins.

From USA Today Last November 2012:

"Major college football is about to make scoring history.

Through Tuesday, the 124 teams in the Bowl Subdivision have scored 36,130 points over 1,232 games, an average of 29.3 points per team per game. If that average holds, it would break the record of 28.4 points a game set in 2007."

We just don't know as a staff how to produce enough points... and it's not about talent (see Indiana scoring avg)

See Indiana Record.

 

[seepig]

Kirk still thinks he has Alabama talent on both sides of the ball and if we just execute better base running plays with average talent we will have a superior result in the W and L columns. He needs to shake the cob webs from his head and get this team into this decade regarding offensive sets and plays.

 

[kmurp]

Kirk still thinks he has Alabama talent on both sides of the ball and if we just execute better base running plays with average talent we will have a superior result in the W and L columns. He needs to shake the cob webs from his head and get this team into this decade regarding offensive sets and plays.

How do you explain Wisconsin?

 

[okeefe4prez]

How do you explain Wisconsin?

Is this a cereal question? If so, had the pieces in 2010. Put it together. Similar to Iowa 2009 but with better ground game.

2011 - Russell Wilson transfer

2012 - OSU and PSU bowl ban

Pretty simple. You get it?