This is the definition of stubborn

This is why I was almost done with them in 2012 but I know they lost 2 important linemen. They should learn from 2012.

And it was why I was really done with them in 2014 not opening it up and letting CJB play more. They learned and 2015 resulted and I am glad I went to the games in 2015.

Last year they used a lot of weapons in a good way and they had the running game.

Cant run this year so better learn and adapt or their stubborness will drop ticket sales again
 
longtimer said:
"We're a better team when we can run the ball efficiently, It's always been that way. That is our plan , that will continue to be our plan. We'll try to do a better job there" Ferentz

I guess that means we can expect more runs up the gut for 1/2 yard. Let's just come out throwing. What do we have to lose???
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I dunno, a lot of teams at times pass to set up the run, oh, like they did in the first Q yesterday.

This can work especially when you have a QB that doesn't throw a lot of interceptions.
 
longtimer said:
"We're a better team when we can run the ball efficiently, It's always been that way. That is our plan , that will continue to be our plan. We'll try to do a better job there" Ferentz

I guess that means we can expect more runs up the gut for 1/2 yard. Let's just come out throwing. What do we have to lose???
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"We're a better team when we can run the ball efficiently, It's always been that way. That is our plan , that will continue to be our plan. We'll try to do a better job there" Ferentz

As a long time Hawkeye fan, I would bet even money I heard the exact same quote from Bob Commings in the '70's.
 
I believe this team is talented enough to run the ball, they're just not being utilized properly to do so. The stubborn element seems to be the insistence on trying to run the ball the same way. The stretch play/zone blocking, whatever they call it, to the short side of the field last worked many seasons ago. Maybe the personnel they have isn't suited to that type of blocking scheme, and/or defenses have figured it out - slant everyone to that side of the field so tacklers outnumber blockers. Same with Wadley into the LOS - it worked early on, but was not successful as the game went on, but they kept at it.

Iowa seems to have shown flashes on being able do something about it, for example, that play in the 4th quarter where Wadley scored against Illinois is a good example. Everyone moves right, including Wadley, and then counters to the left. There is very little misdirection in Iowa's running game. I contend that predictably on offense is not a virtue.
 
SCHawkeye2 said:
"We're a better team when we can run the ball efficiently, It's always been that way. That is our plan , that will continue to be our plan. We'll try to do a better job there" Ferentz

As a long time Hawkeye fan, I would bet even money I heard the exact same quote from Bob Commings in the '70's.
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Against NW we rushed 33 times for 89 yards. (Wadley has one run of 22, so other than his run, we rushed 32 times for 67 yds - slightly over 2 yds per carry.
Against MSU we rushed 25 times for 19 yds.
PSU 23 rushes / 82 yds (most of which on 2 or 3 plays)

What does it take for KF and BF to realize they CANNOT succeed with a priority on the running game with the personnel and/or scheme they have?
 
I loved this stat from BHGP:

On Saturday, Iowa ran on 64% of the time on first down. When running, they averaged 1.6 yards per play. When passing on first down, Iowa averaged 14.7 yards per play.

Obviously the MVB bomb skewed the stats a bit, but the fact remains that teams expect Iowa to run on first down and have no problem shutting it down
 
Let’s try changing our blocking scheme blocking man on man on a few series’s instead of the zone blocking?
 
mopkins said:
I loved this stat from BHGP:

On Saturday, Iowa ran on 64% of the time on first down. When running, they averaged 1.6 yards per play. When passing on first down, Iowa averaged 14.7 yards per play.

Obviously the MVB bomb skewed the stats a bit, but the fact remains that teams expect Iowa to run on first down and have no problem shutting it down
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Can you say STUBBORN! Does the data state we should run at same clip on 1st down? Maybe in IC it means we need to up it, yep that's likely it. Let's increase to say 70%, that will improve the outcome, right?

Let's pray that somehow, someone, somewhere, could get thru to the coaching staff that there can be another way!

Maybe place an emergency call to Billichek, whatever it takes.
 
Here were all of Iowa's 1st down running plays vs NW. Yes, its as bad as you thought.

Summary: 14 carries for 25 yards (1.78 yards per carry).


1st and 10 at NW 33
(15:00 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 5 yds to the Nwest 28

1st and 10 at IOWA 10
(9:28 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 3 yds to the Iowa 13

1st and 10 at NW 48
(9:28 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Nwest 47

1st and 10 at NW 29
(9:28 - 1st) Ihmir Smith-Marsette run for 6 yds to the Nwest 23

1st and 10 at NW 18
(9:28 - 1st) Toren Young run for 1 yd to the Nwest 17

1st and 10 at IOWA 10
(0:42 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Iowa 11

1st and 10 at IOWA 29
(10:59 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Iowa 30

1st and 10 at IOWA 43
(5:46 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 1 yard to the Iowa 42

1st and 10 at IOWA 3
(13:35 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for 2 yds to the Iowa 5

1st and 10 at IOWA 13
(13:35 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for 4 yds to the Iowa 17

1st and 10 at IOWA 40
(7:19 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 3 yards to the Iowa 37

1st and 10 at IOWA 30
(5:30 - 4th) Akrum Wadley run for 2 yds to the Iowa 32

1st and 10 at IOWA 41
(5:30 - 4th) Akrum Wadley run for no gain to the Iowa 41

1st and 10 at NW 25
(OT) Akrum Wadley run for 3 yds to the Nwest 22
 
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That's perfect, because you can almost make out "IOWA" on Charlie Brown's shirt. And I think the paper that Lucy grabs onto is the game plan for the offense - if you notice, there's nothing written on it.

How Charlie looks upon landing on the ground is how I felt on Sunday. How he looks just before he tries to kick it is how I feel on Friday.
 
mopkins said:
Here were all of Iowa's 1st down running plays vs NW. Yes, its as bad as you thought.

Summary: 14 carries for 25 yards (1.78 yards per carry).


1st and 10 at NW 33
(15:00 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 5 yds to the Nwest 28

1st and 10 at IOWA 10
(9:28 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 3 yds to the Iowa 13

1st and 10 at NW 48
(9:28 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Nwest 47

1st and 10 at NW 29
(9:28 - 1st) Ihmir Smith-Marsette run for 6 yds to the Nwest 23

1st and 10 at NW 18
(9:28 - 1st) Toren Young run for 1 yd to the Nwest 17

1st and 10 at IOWA 10
(0:42 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Iowa 11

1st and 10 at IOWA 29
(10:59 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Iowa 30

1st and 10 at IOWA 43
(5:46 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 1 yard to the Iowa 42

1st and 10 at IOWA 3
(13:35 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for 2 yds to the Iowa 5

1st and 10 at IOWA 13
(13:35 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for 4 yds to the Iowa 17

1st and 10 at IOWA 40
(7:19 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 3 yards to the Iowa 37

1st and 10 at IOWA 30
(5:30 - 4th) Akrum Wadley run for 2 yds to the Iowa 32

1st and 10 at IOWA 41
(5:30 - 4th) Akrum Wadley run for no gain to the Iowa 41

1st and 10 at NW 25
(OT) Akrum Wadley run for 3 yds to the Nwest 22
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homes said:
That's perfect, because you can almost make out "IOWA" on Charlie Brown's shirt. And I think the paper that Lucy grabs onto is the game plan for the offense - if you notice, there's nothing written on it.

How Charlie looks upon landing on the ground is how I felt on Sunday. How he looks just before he tries to kick it is how I feel on Friday.
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How every Big Ten feels about playing Iowa with a heart beat now and days........they don't have to worry about Iowa making any changes in scheme. Even Lucy can game plan for Iowa.
 
mopkins said:
Here were all of Iowa's 1st down running plays vs NW. Yes, its as bad as you thought.

Summary: 14 carries for 25 yards (1.78 yards per carry).


1st and 10 at NW 33
(15:00 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 5 yds to the Nwest 28

1st and 10 at IOWA 10
(9:28 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 3 yds to the Iowa 13

1st and 10 at NW 48
(9:28 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Nwest 47

1st and 10 at NW 29
(9:28 - 1st) Ihmir Smith-Marsette run for 6 yds to the Nwest 23

1st and 10 at NW 18
(9:28 - 1st) Toren Young run for 1 yd to the Nwest 17

1st and 10 at IOWA 10
(0:42 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Iowa 11

1st and 10 at IOWA 29
(10:59 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Iowa 30

1st and 10 at IOWA 43
(5:46 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 1 yard to the Iowa 42

1st and 10 at IOWA 3
(13:35 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for 2 yds to the Iowa 5

1st and 10 at IOWA 13
(13:35 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for 4 yds to the Iowa 17

1st and 10 at IOWA 40
(7:19 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 3 yards to the Iowa 37

1st and 10 at IOWA 30
(5:30 - 4th) Akrum Wadley run for 2 yds to the Iowa 32

1st and 10 at IOWA 41
(5:30 - 4th) Akrum Wadley run for no gain to the Iowa 41

1st and 10 at NW 25
(OT) Akrum Wadley run for 3 yds to the Nwest 22
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That's some good work there, mopkins. At some point, it's not about "execution". No wonder Akrum was in the "no comment" mode after the game.
 
homes said:
That's some good work there, mopkins. At some point, it's not about "execution". No wonder Akrum was in the "no comment" mode after the game.
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Its just come down to teams not caring if Iowa passes on 1st down. They know that 65% of the time Iowa will run on 1st down and when they stop them Iowa is basically screwed for that possession. It clearly works as its the exact thing PSU, MSU and NW all have done.

At some point you just gotta come out of shotgun and open the field up on 1st down. You can still run it, but when you have 3 WR's on the field the defense has to spread out to cover them. Its what 90% of college teams not named Iowa do these days...because it works.
 
mopkins said:
Here were all of Iowa's 1st down running plays vs NW. Yes, its as bad as you thought.

Summary: 14 carries for 25 yards (1.78 yards per carry).


1st and 10 at NW 33
(15:00 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 5 yds to the Nwest 28

1st and 10 at IOWA 10
(9:28 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 3 yds to the Iowa 13

1st and 10 at NW 48
(9:28 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Nwest 47

1st and 10 at NW 29
(9:28 - 1st) Ihmir Smith-Marsette run for 6 yds to the Nwest 23

1st and 10 at NW 18
(9:28 - 1st) Toren Young run for 1 yd to the Nwest 17

1st and 10 at IOWA 10
(0:42 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Iowa 11

1st and 10 at IOWA 29
(10:59 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the Iowa 30

1st and 10 at IOWA 43
(5:46 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 1 yard to the Iowa 42

1st and 10 at IOWA 3
(13:35 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for 2 yds to the Iowa 5

1st and 10 at IOWA 13
(13:35 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for 4 yds to the Iowa 17

1st and 10 at IOWA 40
(7:19 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 3 yards to the Iowa 37

1st and 10 at IOWA 30
(5:30 - 4th) Akrum Wadley run for 2 yds to the Iowa 32

1st and 10 at IOWA 41
(5:30 - 4th) Akrum Wadley run for no gain to the Iowa 41

1st and 10 at NW 25
(OT) Akrum Wadley run for 3 yds to the Nwest 22
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I think I remember last year KF said Wadley wasn't big enough to be a running back, so he has to prove it by running him into eight man fronts
 
MelroseHawkins said:
I dunno, a lot of teams at times pass to set up the run, oh, like they did in the first Q yesterday.

This can work especially when you have a QB that doesn't throw a lot of interceptions.
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But Stanley can't/won't play a deep ball. A deep ball to him is 1-2 yards past the line of scrimmage. He cannot effectively hit a receiver more than 10 yards down field. He needs a lot of work in the off season.
 
mopkins said:
Here were all of Iowa's 1st down running plays vs NW. Yes, its as bad as you thought.

Summary: 14 carries for 25 yards (1.78 yards per carry).

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Wow. 14 running plays on first down, and the best one WASN'T from the starter. That is not AW's fault, that is complete lack of adjustment by Brian Ferentz and Daddy Warbucks.

This season was over in East Lansing as far as I am concerned. The Hawk players and coaching staff solidified my feelings against jNW.

Come on, basketball season!
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