This hurts to say, but...

thedukeofearl said:
In this particular list, the Hawkeyes do not crack the top 100.....

https://www.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/best-college-basketball-schools

Clones are listed at 45.....

Northern Iowa at 86.....

And the Iona Gaels at 101.....

No credit for the Ralph Miller, Mr. Davis or especially the Bucky O'Conner teams that made the Final Four one year and the Championship Game the next where they lost to Bill Russel's San Francisco Dons.....

Damn

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Crap list. Seems like it's based on recent success and clearly heavily opinion oriented.
 
Definitely.....

I personally like the list going back a long way that listed the Hawks in the Top 10.....

Tried to find that list but need to look longer.....

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thedukeofearl said:
Definitely.....

I personally like the list going back a long way that listed the Hawks in the Top 10.....

Tried to find that list but need to look longer.....

:cool:
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I tried but couldn't find it. It was about 10 years ago and was in a formal publication, like SI or similar. All I remember is that UCLA was #1 and Iowa was 9 or 10. They mentioned the "fab five," Ralph Miller, Mr. Davis, etc.
 
#1DieHardHawk said:
I tried but couldn't find it. It was about 10 years ago and was in a formal publication, like SI or similar. All I remember is that UCLA was #1 and Iowa was 9 or 10. They mentioned the "fab five," Ralph Miller, Mr. Davis, etc.
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Found it.....

https://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1004/cbe1.pdf

Five Big10 teams in the top ten: Indiana, Illinois Purdue, Ohio State and the Mighty Hawkeyes.....

Hot Damn

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Adam said:
The timeline of Iowa's fall from relevance in my mind goes like this. Roy Williams stabs the beast and leaves it to bleed out. By picking Iowa's pocket for Collision, LaFrentz and Hinrich Roy really started a massive blood letting. Those guys playing for Tom Davis is a guaranteed Final 4 banner hanging in Carver. Instead the best our state has starts heading elsewhere to play ball. This cost Mr. Davis his job at Iowa and started the nasty tailspin for Iowa basketball.
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Small nitpick but Hinrich was never going to Iowa, he was actually committed to ISU before Floyd left. LaFrentz and Collison (who never played together) don't guarantee anything really.

Iowa does have a good history, but let's be honest, a lot of that happened outside of many of our memories. I'm 37, and I wouldn't trade the success ISU has had for the success Iowa has had in my memory.
 
If you make a list 10 years ago and in the basement in the big 10 ever since, I think it explains our fall from grace.
 
BryceC said:
Small nitpick but Hinrich was never going to Iowa, he was actually committed to ISU before Floyd left. LaFrentz and Collison (who never played together) don't guarantee anything really.

Iowa does have a good history, but let's be honest, a lot of that happened outside of many of our memories. I'm 37, and I wouldn't trade the success ISU has had for the success Iowa has had in my memory.
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Fair enough but if you're over 45, I'd shade towards Iowa's success over ISU.
 
LicThawk said:
If you make a list 10 years ago and in the basement in the big 10 ever since, I think it explains our fall from grace.
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I'm not trying to act like Iowa has been good by any means, but they've also only really been in the basement of the B1G 4 times in the last 10 years, so you're theory doesn't really explain much.
 
BryceC said:
Small nitpick but Hinrich was never going to Iowa, he was actually committed to ISU before Floyd left. LaFrentz and Collison (who never played together) don't guarantee anything really.

Iowa does have a good history, but let's be honest, a lot of that happened outside of many of our memories. I'm 37, and I wouldn't trade the success ISU has had for the success Iowa has had in my memory.
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Ya bro I will give you that Iowa St has had some sweet success over the last quarter century. I will also give you that Hinrich was never coming to Iowa, however the impact of him going anywhere else along with the other 2 best players from the state had deep ramifications on the man who's job it was to bring the best Iowa had to offer to Iowa.

It's the ripple effect. The same ripple effect that Fran is now facing. Getting lucky with Weiskamp might have erased one of Fran's misses on Iowa kids, but if Fran can't land Foster I smell trouble in the kitchen.
 
Fryowa said:
Deace is also a disinterested party who doesn’t have the highs when the Hawks win and the lows when they lose. Being a Michigan fan on a Hawkeye podcast isn’t exactly stressful as long as you understand the sports and the environment of the NCAA (i.e. you’re able to hold intelligent sports conversation) In Jon’s defense I’d be jaded as hell by now and either bored or sick of doing an Iowa podcast. You can only talk about the rinse and repeat for so long.
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That's fine but I'm only going to listen so long to a podcast with a milquetoast host who's main interest is not irritating the athletic department and always having low expectations to avoid being burned by a sub-par performance year in and year out.
 
InGoodCo said:
I'm not trying to act like Iowa has been good by any means, but they've also only really been in the basement of the B1G 4 times in the last 10 years, so you're theory doesn't really explain much.
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4 times too many, really, though it's skewed by Lickliter Era numbers, I guess.
 
hawkeyebob62 said:
4 times too many, really, though it's skewed by Lickliter Era numbers, I guess.
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Oh I agree, I am not trying to say they've been worth a crap, and 4 times is way too much. Just was stating to the OP that I commented to. Iowa made the list 10 years ago, and hasn't really been in the cellar ever since, all I was saying.
 
#1DieHardHawk said:
I haven't listened to the podcast, but I will add that Iowa's men's basketball program isn't historically "middle of the road."

I don't recall which publication it was - perhaps SI or Sport magazine - but there was an article maybe 10 years ago or so ranking the top college basketball programs of all time, and Iowa was in the top ten. The program had great success in the 40s and 50s and mid to late 60s, then again in the late 70s through the eighties. We've just been in a prolonged rut recently, starting with the hire of Alford and compounded by LIck.
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That's a rather cornhuskerish take, don't ya think?;)
 
1hawkeye1 said:
That's a rather cornhuskerish take, don't ya think?;)
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I don't know if you're being facetious, but the short answer is no.

Discussing where a program ranks historically is quite different than living under the delusion that your program is at that level currently. At the current time, we probably aren't even a top 50 program (or, top 351 defensively......).
 
Hard to get excited about Iowa basketball after last year's complete and utter disaster. That was one of the worst Iowa basketball teams of my lifetime, and played the worst defense of any Iowa BB team I have watched since 1964.

I think Fran's job is on the line this winter. defend boys, or you will lose your coach!
 
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