This coaching staff is a total failure.

[Ickehawk]

You are not a realist and your certainly not "informed".

That much is clear.

Without looking it up, I doubt you even understand what a 'realist' is, and as far as informed.....I know more about football and what the Hawkeyes 'do' than than anyone I've read on this board. Hands down...Just because some of you are too ignorant and delusional to believe certain things, it's really not my problem. Nobody has EVER proved me wrong about anything I have ever posted...and most of the time, John and/or the coaches validate what I tell you after the fact...............I've learned that most message board posters (like yourself) are the dregs of society, so your 'feelings' and 'uninformed' opinions mean nothing to me. Try to grow up and learn a little something, homer....

 

[trj]

I can't remember what thread it was or who posted the stat, but it was that KF had a 35-11 record against teams that they were a double digit favorite in. It is those 11 loses that bug me, the loses to inferior opponents that drive me bat shit crazy. I have no idea if that record was/is straight up or against the spread, if that record includes this year or not, my issue with the whole Ferentz era starts 2005 on and not beating teams you should be beating.

 

[HawkGold]

Does Iowa have an absolutely terrible failure of a coach? Absolutely not.

Is Iowa up and down? Yes of course that is obvious.

Is the trend down? Yes probably, but last year is still a hard analysis.

When did KF lose me? Over the contract negotiations when he first got here AND he began complaining about Iowa and recruiting.

Biggest sin? Not taking ISU seriously. Untouchable attitude with the press a close 2nd.

When I really knew something was amiss? OSU in with Stanzi out. Had everything to gain by going for the win and little to lose if it failed. But he didn't go for it.

Do I think he's a great guy? No. How he treats the press, how he handled rhabdo, the rape case, and Jake Christian all point to otherwise.

Do I think he should have received the new deal? No, I think something shady is up.

Has he given moments and seasons where it is great to be a Hawk Fan? Yes quite a few. There are very few of those seasons where I felt completely good about things.

His biggest failure? Trying to make Brad Banks a drop back QB and not starting him the junior year.

His legacy? In the shadow of HF.

I do have a question. Iowa in 2015 had noticeable speed, especially in the interior on D and maybe O line. Of course Smith was decently fast and we don't have it this year. My question is were the departed seniors on the line and interior D that much faster than this year as it sure seems that way?

 

[Ickehawk]

This is rich. Coming from the guy who wants to put the blame on Desmond King of all people for our troubles this year.

Do any of you have any kind of reading comprehension skills at all? How do you twits always jump to conclusions or hyperbolize?

 

[Playmaker]

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But I was fully OFF board with KF when, with a chance to win our first outright Big 10 championship since 1985 (in the Horseshoe, no less), and we had the Buckeyes on the ropes, he took a freaking knee. From that point on, I've been ready for a change.

Ferments could have cured cancer the day after that game, and I was not gonna support him no matter what he did. I KNEW that last year was a "Fake ID " season, and look what a mess we are in now....not to mention the future. Eat S Barta!!!

 

[STLhawkeye20]

You have a ridiculous barometer of success if it's BCS win, playoffs, or bust. I get a lot of entertainment watching individual games. It must suck for you to take no joy in games until you see how we finish at the end of the year.

Jesus lol of course I enjoy when Iowa wins. I cheer for them to win and enjoy it when they win every game. We are talking about big games here.

 

[HawkGold]

Do any of you have any kind of reading comprehension skills at all? How do you twits always jump to conclusions or hyperbolize?

Icky, denial is a powerful thing. Deal with it. Talk about conclusions...

 

[STLhawkeye20]

I don't know about you guys but I like Ickehawk. He makes everyone else look really really smart with very little effort.

 

[Mademyaccount4u]

I really don't know where to begin with your thread. You pick and choose games even those where the right decisions were made and Iowa lost. You might as well blame the Iowa staff for the MSU loss last year, because Ott "shouldn't have been in on a punt return" and he likely could have made the difference in the ccg.

I can only assume you either didn't watch most of the games, were too drunk to follow them, or just don't understand football. I mean really, where do you get off? Seriously, look at all the teams across the nation that get top rated recruits every year and are pedestrian this year. I guess you probably don't know what's going on so you blame the coaching staff, other posters, and probably god.

I hear Nebraska is good this year, maybe you should root for them, except they haven't won anything of significance since.... what 2000? Maybe Alabama then.

 

[STLhawkeye20]

I really don't know where to begin with your thread. You pick and choose games even those where the right decisions were made and Iowa lost. You might as well blame the Iowa staff for the MSU loss last year, because Ott "shouldn't have been in on a punt return" and he likely could have made the difference in the ccg.

I can only assume you either didn't watch most of the games, were too drunk to follow them, or just don't understand football. I mean really, where do you get off? Seriously, look at all the teams across the nation that get top rated recruits every year and are pedestrian this year. I guess you probably don't know what's going on so you blame the coaching staff, other posters, and probably god.

I hear Nebraska is good this year, maybe you should root for them, except they haven't won anything of significance since.... what 2000? Maybe Alabama then.

I'm honestly not even sure what you're trying to say here. I read through this mind-numbing prose three times and couldn't find any substantive argument to respond to. You should probably work on your articulation; it will benefit you in the long run.

 

[hawkeyes87]

Seriously, look at all the teams across the nation that get top rated recruits every year and are pedestrian this year.

The key part of this is "pedestrian this year". Lots of teams, hell almost every team, have down / pedestrian years. But comparing them to Iowa is misleading for several reasons.

1) Iowa is pedestrian MOST years. Every 4 or 5 years they rise above that, but pedestrian is clearly the norm.
2) The coaches of those teams struggling this year are likely doing whatever they can to right the ship. KF and his staff will do little if anything- HOPING the players "develop" enough to eventually succeed.
3) The coaches of those teams struggling this year may be "on the hot seat", because their AD's and boosters expect better than pedestrian. Here? Our AD will delay any further contract extension discussions for a little while.

 

[jfwolfe]

Do I think he's a great guy? No. How he treats the press, how he handled rhabdo, the rape case, and Jake Christian all point to otherwise.
And what should he have done in these cases? Do we know exactly what he did or said in his office and to people in the university? No, we don't. Treating the press the way he does is no worse than what Hayden did regularly to people and what many coaches do (this one is just silly). As for what makes someone a great guy, we can differ in our opinions. My family with 10 Iowa graduates in it has no issue with Kirk Ferentz. He has done incredible things for many, many people that you wish to ignore so you can say terrible things about him on an internet fan forum. I don't know him and neither do you so your opinion here is silly. One thing I do know is that he has great respect for Iowa (see UIHC and how much he puts into this part of his life). He graduates kids who are students first and athletes second. I guess my feelings are that he is a good guy.
However, the issues with coaching have made me like him less as a COACH but not at as a person.

 

[VTHawk]

The key part of this is "pedestrian this year". Lots of teams, hell almost every team, have down / pedestrian years. But comparing them to Iowa is misleading for several reasons.

1) Iowa is pedestrian MOST years. Every 4 or 5 years they rise above that, but pedestrian is clearly the norm.
2) The coaches of those teams struggling this year are likely doing whatever they can to right the ship. KF and his staff will do little if anything- HOPING the players "develop" enough to eventually succeed.
3) The coaches of those teams struggling this year may be "on the hot seat", because their AD's and boosters expect better than pedestrian. Here? Our AD will delay any further contract extension discussions for a little while.

This ^^^^ a thousand times.

 

[Joshbrown]

Do I think he's a great guy? No. How he treats the press, how he handled rhabdo, the rape case, and Jake Christian all point to otherwise.
And what should he have done in these cases? Do we know exactly what he did or said in his office and to people in the university? No, we don't. Treating the press the way he does is no worse than what Hayden did regularly to people and what many coaches do (this one is just silly). As for what makes someone a great guy, we can differ in our opinions. My family with 10 Iowa graduates in it has no issue with Kirk Ferentz. He has done incredible things for many, many people that you wish to ignore so you can say terrible things about him on an internet fan forum. I don't know him and neither do you so your opinion here is silly. One thing I do know is that he has great respect for Iowa (see UIHC and how much he puts into this part of his life). He graduates kids who are students first and athletes second. I guess my feelings are that he is a good guy.
However, the issues with coaching have made me like him less as a COACH but not at as a person.

This is part of the problem. The number of people who suffer from the delusion that they have a personal relationship with KF.

 

[STLhawkeye20]

This is part of the problem. The number of people who suffer from the delusion that they have a personal relationship with KF.

I think people also (unreasonably) feel like this program will plummet into a perennial pit of despair a la Iowa State as soon as Kirk Ferentz leaves.

 

[westender]

You are completely right. Just think of where we would be right now if he had been named B10 COY eight times instead of just four times, which is more than any other coach in B10 history except Bo Schembechler.

Don't feed the whiners. We could win every game and they would still complain. Nobody can have down games because in their own personal lives and work lives they are freaking perfect so that gives them the right to bitch. Well, well they will say they don't get $5 million a year. Well get into coaching then I would say. They change their usernames or have multiple accounts so they can cheer like last year and whine like this year. Everyone is a perfect expert on the message boards. Let's just see how the Hawks finish the year.

 

[westender]

This is part of the problem. The number of people who suffer from the delusion that they have a personal relationship with KF.

Your lame ass quote at the bottom of our post says it all. You are stuck on what Fry did versus ISU, Wisconsin, etc. Like those schools have not bettered themselves over time! If only Iowa could advance and no one else in the universe tries to better themselves and stays stuck in the 1980s.

 

[westender]

You are absolutely right with that.

I am not happy with the way things are with this years program. It looks very bad nationally when we loss to NDSU and generally look not very motivated to play good football.

As Hawkeye fans we all had high expectations this fall for all of the reasons that the original poster listed. We should be at the most a one loss team right now, looking at possibly going back to the Big Ten Championship game.

I don't know why this happened,the way the team has progressed this year.

I will tell you that in that 2009 game against Ohio State when we had the ball with decent field position with about 2 minutes or so left in the game with the score tied, and Kirk Ferentz decided to sit on the ball instead of trying to make a few plays to try a game winning field goal, it bothers me.

It bothered me then and it bothers me now. Thats how deep of a Hawkeye fan I am.

Is this really all you have going on in your life to stew about? A loss from 2009?

 

[STLhawkeye20]

Oh man this is gonna be fun. I can't wait to pick you apart line by line.

Don't feed the whiners.

You're conflating "whining" with providing legitimately substantive arguments. Conflating: "combining two ideas into one."

We could win every game and they would still complain.

No basis whatsoever for this argument. These supposed "whiners" you've identified enjoy winning just as much as anyone else. That doesn't mean that there aren't structural problems with the program, such as Kirk Ferentz' boring style of play, poor recruiting decisions, etc.

Nobody can have down games because in their own personal lives and work lives they are freaking perfect so that gives them the right to bitch.

"Right to bitch"? I don't need to be granted the "right to bitch" by some omniscient being. As a tax-paying Iowan (at one point in my life), and as a donor to the University of Iowa, and as a human being, I have the "right to bitch." Poor language choice here.

Well, well they will say they don't get $5 million a year. Well get into coaching then I would say.

This argument flat out sucks. So you can't complain or criticize or substantively argue anything anymore without having to physically enter that profession or arena or field yourself?

They change their usernames or have multiple accounts so they can cheer like last year and whine like this year.

I don't have more than one account. Next.

Everyone is a perfect expert on the message boards.

No one is saying that they are an expert. Even an amateur can observe the glaring patterns of incompetence displayed by this coaching staff. It doesn't take an expert to compare what the top programs in the nation our doing versus what our program is doing, and see that we are not doing what they are doing.

Let's just see how the Hawks finish the year.

I hope they win out. But that doesn't change the fact that we've already sustained unconscionable home losses to NDSU (FCS) and jNW and likely blown our chance at a B1G West Championship.

Is this really all you have going on in your life to stew about? A loss from 2009?

Hmm...going after someone's personal life with no basis after they provide legitimate points. I mean, this is "Hawkeyenation" after all. I would expect people to invoke their past experiences into their arguments, not the other way around. And he never said he was actively stewing over a loss. Maybe it's different for you, but there are actually people out there with the capacity to carry out happy, exciting, successful lives while simultaneously harboring opinions about a past event. Might want to check it out.

Your lame ass quote at the bottom of our post says it all.

Why is it a "lame ass quote" and what on earth do you mean by "says it all"? Might want to work on your articulation as well.

You are stuck on what Fry did versus ISU, Wisconsin, etc.

Again, not sure if you're aware, but it's actually possible to inject historical data into an argument or be proud of a past accomplishment or, I don't know, tell a story about a past occurrence without being "stuck" on it.

Like those schools have not bettered themselves over time!

What?

If only Iowa could advance and no one else in the universe tries to better themselves and stays stuck in the 1980s.

Again, what?

 

[VTHawk]

Is this really all you have going on in your life to stew about? A loss from 2009?

Ah the new low in hurling personal insults on a forum.