There has to be something internal going on with this team

SpiderRico

SpiderRico

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There is no other explanation for a team that went 12-2 last year and returned 15 starters...which included a 2nd team All-B1G QB, 2 of the top 3 RBs, 3 of 5 OL, 6 of the front 7 and 3 of 4 DBs on D.

Couple that with no passion whatsoever (had been mentioned multiple games by sideline reporters) plus the still mysterious captaincy loss by King and it's obvious to even the most casual observer that there is no chemistry whatsoever on this team.

Since the seniors don't feel like leading the team this year, it's time to play for the future. But that won't happen, so I guess I have 3 free Saturdays now.
 
They are not put in positions to win.

When opposing LB are literally pointing to the spot where the ball is going pre snap.....we can't expect to win those battles.

This was one of the worst offensive performances I have ever seen from Iowa, and that's saying something.

How many 3rd and 1 did we run the exact same play? Why was nothing else tried there? Everyone knows on 4th and 1 we do QB sneak

We threw 2 passes over 15 yards, everything else was to Wadley.

Our new wrinkle, the jet sweep to Wadley was a joke, and always run to short side of field.

What did we practice over bye week? Why don't players get benched? We did see more WR get in game, but they obviously have no idea how to run this GDGD passing scheme

The schemes we have are severely hurting this program. I don't think we have top Big10 talent across the board, but I think we're better than we show.

PSU offense was thing of beauty. Misdirection, deep passes, schemes to get best player into space....

And we just run into 9 man fronts
 
Team, again, shows signs of a lack of leadership...starting at the top.

This, in addition, to playing some top teams with talent when Iowa has 80-90 level talent.

KF is about due to pull the Michigan upset and be set again on his perch of being a great and underappreciated genius...as the team chugs to 6-6.
 
How is this any different than almost every season from 2010 forward? The coach is more concerned about cashing checks and playing his guys, his way than anything else. He's built a staff of yes men to support it. They are unwilling to recruit/play talented players because he might not be able to 'control' those personalities that come with them.

The only difference was coming into 2015 there was extreme pressure for once and low and behold look at the results at least early on. Even as that season progressed KF started to slip back into his old ways until we finally got hammered on the national stage. Once the pressure subsided back to the same-old-thing.
 
Iowa doesn't have the personnel to run the offense they want to run. Few in college football do, Iowa definitely does not. The level of stubbornness to keep pounding this square peg in a round hole is simply inexcusable. The players can sense this.
 
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homes said:
Iowa doesn't have the personnel to run the offense they want to run. Few in college football do, Iowa definitely does not. The level of stubbornness to keep pounding this square peg in a round hole is simply inexcusable. The players can sense this.
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Yup, no Jordan Shipley with his freaky quickness over the middle or on screens. No freak of nature in VY at QB, or even a Colt McCoy. No strong, tall, fast receivers that can go over or through DBs to make the catch. Even with those kind of guys the offense struggled at Texas. The only reason he lasted as long as he did at Texas is because of Mack Brown's, stop me if you've heard this before, loyalty to his assistants. It wasn't until Mack was given the "Make changes, starting with Davis, or you're out" by Dodds that GD was finally gone.
 
If Kirk coaches with any urgency at all against NDSU and Northwestern , we go into the Wisconsin game undefeated and motivated. Even if we lose, we are still playing for the West so the Penn State game might go different too. It all comes back to losing to two bad teams because of kirks coaching.
 
The presidential race and the political related movements like not standing for the anthem are dividing a lot of teams. Some coaches are proactive and get their teams to get over whats bothering their players and a team can come together even when players have strong disagreements.
 
I think iits whenStanford exposed Iowa in the Rose Bowl, and I think this team has not mentally gotten over the beating they laid on us. 2015/2016 is almost identical to the 2009/2010 seasons, but in 2010 that team was a tad bit better than this 2016 squad. At least King hasn't pussed out like Clayborn did. I fear that we will suck next year and the year after that, then by miracle we'll have a really good season in 2019 and Ferentz will get another raise and five year extension. Its a sick cycle we're stuck in with Kirk and Barta.
 
atxhawk said:
Yup, no Jordan Shipley with his freaky quickness over the middle or on screens. No freak of nature in VY at QB, or even a Colt McCoy. No strong, tall, fast receivers that can go over or through DBs to make the catch. Even with those kind of guys the offense struggled at Texas. The only reason he lasted as long as he did at Texas is because of Mack Brown's, stop me if you've heard this before, loyalty to his assistants. It wasn't until Mack was given the "Make changes, starting with Davis, or you're out" by Dodds that GD was finally gone.
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I want to agree with you, but they got worse after GD left. Furthermore, if Iowa had the talent that Texas has, the offensive scheme would probably be adequate.

I had always felt that even if GD wasn't a good coordinator, that at least he would have in roads with recruiting in Texas. I was probably wrong.
 
From the start of the season I have thought that CJ was holding back a bit. He was reluctant to run the ball, but passed the ball well the first two games. He had protection to pass the ball, however it was against inferior competition. Starting with NDSU his protection broke down drastically. The level of competition was vastly superior, and we apparently had not watched the video of the Bison earlier victories. That loss did appear to deflate our confidence which we did not completely regain until the game at Purdue.

I thought that Kirk had put the restraints on CJ, not wanting a season-ending injury to occur. This would have hampered his rhythm considerably. With CJ so hesitant, the line would break down because they could only hold so long. In the meantime the receivers were not getting open, mainly after Vandy's season was finished. When the receivers were open, a rare occasion, they seemed to drop the ball frequently.

CJ began to get sacked on a regular basis most games. This could cause someone to become gunshy, putting much more pressure on him. He simply hasn't played the way he is capable, and I don't believe it is completely his fault.

If Kirk has restrained Cj, this would have an extremely negative effect on the entire team. The lack of success on offence severely effects the defense, leaving them on the field much longer than the offense. Three and out, over and over will create an exhausted defense by the fourth quarter.

This is mere idle speculation.
 
It is a very noticeable lack of speed. That is the main thing. There is probably a reason why Iowa played a slowed injured player in the Rose last year.
 
HawkGold said:
It is a very noticeable lack of speed. That is the main thing. There is probably a reason why Iowa played a slowed injured player in the Rose last year.
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You nailed it!!! lol.......At what position are we 'slower' at from our 12-0 team. Smith's are about the same. Kittle is faster than HKC. Scheel is faster than Hillyer. Bower is faster than Fisher. Lomax wasn't much faster than Snyder. Kulick is way faster than Cox. Meier is the only one who was faster than his replacement (Nelson). And you would think the returning 15 players got at least a little faster with a another year under their belt. So we were 'fast' enough to go 12-0 last year, got faster at some positions, but are losing now from a 'very noticeable' lack of speed??? You kill me...try again einstein. Next time you get what you think is a brilliant thought......just let it go, lol.
 
atxhawk said:
Yup, no Jordan Shipley with his freaky quickness over the middle or on screens. No freak of nature in VY at QB, or even a Colt McCoy. No strong, tall, fast receivers that can go over or through DBs to make the catch. Even with those kind of guys the offense struggled at Texas. The only reason he lasted as long as he did at Texas is because of Mack Brown's, stop me if you've heard this before, loyalty to his assistants. It wasn't until Mack was given the "Make changes, starting with Davis, or you're out" by Dodds that GD was finally gone.
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No Limas Sweed, no Jamal Charles...... GD has been down this road before that's why he will step aside at end of the year. He will give KF an easy out.
 
homes said:
Iowa doesn't have the personnel to run the offense they want to run. Few in college football do, Iowa definitely does not. The level of stubbornness to keep pounding this square peg in a round hole is simply inexcusable. The players can sense this.
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We also don't have the personnel to run the defense we want to run (namely OLB and Safety).

King takes risks because he knows this, and it's many times why/when he gets beat and shows visible frustration.

Despite what Icky pants says, Jewell is also playing 1.5 positions...due to little help.

WE have players...just not enough and the holes are stark.
 
Channeling my inner icky:

It's the contract dummy. Prior to 2016 once every 4/5 years Kirk felt heat under his seat. That's why once every 4/5 years he coached like it mattered. With the new contract that pattern will not be repeated.

It isn't rocket science my fellow fan.
 
Ickehawk said:
You nailed it!!! lol.......At what position are we 'slower' at from our 12-0 team. Smith's are about the same. Kittle is faster than HKC. Scheel is faster than Hillyer. Bower is faster than Fisher. Lomax wasn't much faster than Snyder. Kulick is way faster than Cox. Meier is the only one who was faster than his replacement (Nelson). And you would think the returning 15 players got at least a little faster with a another year under their belt. So we were 'fast' enough to go 12-0 last year, got faster at some positions, but are losing now from a 'very noticeable' lack of speed??? You kill me...try again einstein. Next time you get what you think is a brilliant thought......just let it go, lol.
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One small thing, Bower may be faster than Fisher, maybe, but he's not as effective...explain that... guru.

If we have all this additional speed, why are we less productive on both offense and defense?

By the way, I actually agree we have more overall speed at WR, so again, why no production? and if you say it's all on CJ(some, maybe, but not all) you'll give yourself away.

LOL.
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
One small thing, Bower may be faster than Fisher, maybe, but he's not as effective...explain that... guru.

If we have all this additional speed, why are we less productive on both offense and defense?

By the way, I actually agree we have more overall speed at WR, so again, why no production? and if you say it's all on CJ(some, maybe, but not all) you'll give yourself away.

LOL.
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Is that all you little girls do, is jump to wild, drama filled, conclusions? In what way is Bower 'not as effective' as Fisher? Statistically? Did you go back and compare game films? Because the defense is so much worse, it has to Bower, right, lol...Go take some selfies and change your pad, drama queen.
 
Ickehawk said:
Is that all you little girls do, is jump to wild, drama filled, conclusions? In what way is Bower 'not as effective' as Fisher? Statistically? Did you go back and compare game films? Because the defense is so much worse, it has to Bower, right, lol...Go take some selfies and change your pad, drama queen.
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You didn't answer the question. No one on here is more dramatic than you.

I liked Bower, it isn't all on him, never said it was. Niemann struggles as well, along with both safties.

Quick question, who's Iowa's best 2 defensive players?

You're a contrarian, which is fine. you also don't know any more than the rest of us dolts.
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
One small thing, Bower may be faster than Fisher, maybe, but he's not as effective...explain that... guru.

If we have all this additional speed, why are we less productive on both offense and defense?

By the way, I actually agree we have more overall speed at WR, so again, why no production? and if you say it's all on CJ(some, maybe, but not all) you'll give yourself away.

LOL.
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I know one thing that I am seeing as a problem. You can 'over coach' technique and be 'over disciplined' and we have people 'thinking' too much and not playing, nor being instinctive, and staying in their 'technique' so long, they are not getting to the ball. On offense, it's a combination of things, but the biggest being scheme/play calling. And, yes, some of it is CJ, but like i said it's a combination of things. If it were just ONE person, then it's an easy fix. You replace that one person and problem solved...but it's not.
 
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