There has to be something internal going on with this team

Ickehawk said:
I know one thing that I am seeing as a problem. You can 'over coach' technique and be 'over disciplined' and we have people 'thinking' too much and not playing, nor being instinctive, and staying in their 'technique' so long, they are not getting to the ball. On offense, it's a combination of things, but the biggest being scheme/play calling. And, yes, some of it is CJ, but like i said it's a combination of things. If it were just ONE person, then it's an easy fix. You replace that one person and problem solved...but it's not.
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"Can't disagree with any if this". It's many things....
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
You didn't answer the question. No one on here is more dramatic than you.

I liked Bower, it isn't all on him, never said it was. Niemann struggles as well, along with both safties.

Quick question, who's Iowa's best 2 defensive players?

You're a contrarian, which is fine. you also don't know any more than the rest of us dolts.
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Best? or most consistent through the year? There's a big difference. And when your 'best' players are effing up, you've got big problems. If you're talking about the 2 that have the best chance to be successful at the next level, I would say King and Johnson, but that doesn't mean they have played the most 'consistently' this year. Because the haven't. If you believe your last sentence, then you are simply delusional. But hey, A lot of people are nowadays...
 
Ickehawk said:
Best? or most consistent through the year? There's a big difference. And when your 'best' players are effing up, you've got big problems. If you're talking about the 2 that have the best chance to be successful at the next level, I would say King and Johnson, but that doesn't mean they have played the most 'consistently' this year. Because the haven't. If you believe your last sentence, then you are simply delusional. But hey, A lot of people are nowadays...
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King, Johnson, and Jewell are our 3 best players on defense. Probably in that order. and it's not close.
 
Ickehawk said:
You nailed it!!! lol.......At what position are we 'slower' at from our 12-0 team. Smith's are about the same. Kittle is faster than HKC. Scheel is faster than Hillyer. Bower is faster than Fisher. Lomax wasn't much faster than Snyder. Kulick is way faster than Cox. Meier is the only one who was faster than his replacement (Nelson). And you would think the returning 15 players got at least a little faster with a another year under their belt. So we were 'fast' enough to go 12-0 last year, got faster at some positions, but are losing now from a 'very noticeable' lack of speed??? You kill me...try again einstein. Next time you get what you think is a brilliant thought......just let it go, lol.
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It's called interior speed. Sorry you can't tell that. Would help your analysis. Must be tough going through life as an idiot and then have to buy friends. That usually ends in grade school. There is also a difference between track speed and game speed. Huge difference in the Smiths (plus the new one doesn't have much game mojo). You kill me Bart. Try again Bart. Let go your pretend friendship with KF.
 
Funny how watching a game vs Iowa it seems that teams on offense like PSU, Stanford, etc. seem to have their players "on the fly" before they even think about approaching the line of scrimmage...like they are running down hill...towards stationary Iowa players. It is the opposite on offense...the Iowa "play makers" approach the line with hesitancy...and often on the short side of the field, only to get pulverized immediately by the defensive play makers who seem adept at predicting, with precision, where Iowa might decide to make their two yard gain. It isn't pretty to watch...

All the while Kirk is taking notes on his leg...I wonder what he is writing...? "Tried that play 96 times this year...it hasn't worked yet, perhaps next time."
 
revkev73 said:
Funny how watching a game vs Iowa it seems that teams on offense like PSU, Stanford, etc. seem to have their players "on the fly" before they even think about approaching the line of scrimmage...like they are running down hill...towards stationary Iowa players. It is the opposite on offense...the Iowa "play makers" approach the line with hesitancy...and often on the short side of the field, only to get pulverized immediately by the defensive play makers who seem adept at predicting, with precision, where Iowa might decide to make their two yard gain. It isn't pretty to watch...

All the while Kirk is taking notes on his leg...I wonder what he is writing...? "Tried that play 96 times this year...it hasn't worked yet, perhaps next time."
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What is peculiar is how teams like PSU and Stanford run all over Iowa with more ease than about any other team they face. PSU is NOT a great team. Neither was NDSU. They only pasted a 6 lost Arizona team worse.
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
One small thing, Bower may be faster than Fisher, maybe, but he's not as effective...explain that... guru.

If we have all this additional speed, why are we less productive on both offense and defense?

By the way, I actually agree we have more overall speed at WR, so again, why no production? and if you say it's all on CJ(some, maybe, but not all) you'll give yourself away.

LOL.
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At one point during the game I saw 88 (PSU TE) toss, with one arm, Bower to the ground like a jr high kid. Bower is slow, indecisive, undersized and frankly not tough enough to play Big 10 football.
 
thetrza said:
Did you guys hear Rob on the podcast talk about Bower going pro?
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Most NCAA athletes will be going pro, but not in sports, that includes Bo. I don't blame Bo for all the defense struggles, he's had good moments. it is not his fault he was asked to cover one of the best backs in college football one on one.

He's a decent, not great, linebacker. many of his struggles are amplified by decent, but not great defensive end play that gives up the edge to often (side note, I've rarely seen a RB that can pop from the center to the outside better/quicker than Barkley).

Dude ain't going pro.
 
Ickehawk said:
You nailed it!!! lol.......At what position are we 'slower' at from our 12-0 team. Smith's are about the same. Kittle is faster than HKC. Scheel is faster than Hillyer. Bower is faster than Fisher. Lomax wasn't much faster than Snyder. Kulick is way faster than Cox. Meier is the only one who was faster than his replacement (Nelson). And you would think the returning 15 players got at least a little faster with a another year under their belt. So we were 'fast' enough to go 12-0 last year, got faster at some positions, but are losing now from a 'very noticeable' lack of speed??? You kill me...try again einstein. Next time you get what you think is a brilliant thought......just let it go, lol.
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We are a bad tackling team and are undisciplined and sloppy. That is coaching. Period.
 
HawkGold said:
It is a very noticeable lack of speed. That is the main thing. There is probably a reason why Iowa played a slowed injured player in the Rose last year.
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Iowa looks slow on defense because LBs are "covering" (i.e. running behind) WRs and RBs on crossing and seam routes. On 3rd and 7 you can bet a WR or RB is going to cross an Iowa LB. Especially 41.

Iowa looks slow on offense because come game time, opposing defenses know the Iowa offense like Iowa's defense knows the Iowa offense in practice.
 
PCHawk said:
If Kirk coaches with any urgency at all against NDSU and Northwestern , we go into the Wisconsin game undefeated and motivated. Even if we lose, we are still playing for the West so the Penn State game might go different too. It all comes back to losing to two bad teams because of kirks coaching.
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I think this is dead on. Even if we lose to Wisky and PSU, there isn't the gnashing of teeth for a 7-2 record.

But the loss to NDSU took the heart out of this team. The body language wasn't the same after that game.
You don't go from a few seconds of reaching the Final Four last season to losing to a I-AA opponent and know if you win the next 12, you don't control your own destiny. They experienced how difficult it was to go 12-0. To win 10 more in a row after that debacle?
 
The one big thing I see is no one is having fun, obviously winning helps that but even when the games first start and the score is 0-0 there just seems to be a lack of enthusiasm. The sideline reporter said it yesterday that the only person being positive and showing encouragement was KF which should be a key role for the head coach. Where are the position coaches, where are the assistant coaches, where are the captains..

I think a MAJOR factor in this is the program is stale. The offense is vanilla, the defense is base, and the image is the same. I hate to bring up the uniforms but the program needs an image change to bring some life into the program and create some excitement even just for a game. The definition of insanity comes to mind and a big break from the status quo is needed from depth charts to everything

I was also thinking the other day about the offense and how much of a difference it makes to have the play callers on the sidelines. It is my opinion in order to hold players accountable you need to be present to hold them accountable and talk face to face. Over the headphones I don't think cuts it for the college game. The kids need leadership that is present. The graduates assistants and the new technology can help get a bird's eye view of the field while the coaching coordinators are on the field.
 
DDThompson said:
I think this is dead on. Even if we lose to Wisky and PSU, there isn't the gnashing of teeth for a 7-2 record.

But the loss to NDSU took the heart out of this team. The body language wasn't the same after that game.
You don't go from a few seconds of reaching the Final Four last season to losing to a I-AA opponent and know if you win the next 12, you don't control your own destiny. They experienced how difficult it was to go 12-0. To win 10 more in a row after that debacle?
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People tend to forget how good we were on offense the first two games this year. That one loss due to terrible coaching completely derailed this season.
 
Ickehawk said:
I know one thing that I am seeing as a problem. You can 'over coach' technique and be 'over disciplined' and we have people 'thinking' too much and not playing, nor being instinctive, and staying in their 'technique' so long, they are not getting to the ball. On offense, it's a combination of things, but the biggest being scheme/play calling. And, yes, some of it is CJ, but like i said it's a combination of things. If it were just ONE person, then it's an easy fix. You replace that one person and problem solved...but it's not.
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Oh my god a post from you that isn't stupid!
 
PCHawk said:
People tend to forget how good we were on offense the first two games this year. That one loss due to terrible coaching completely derailed this season.
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The Miami of Ohio game was hard to gauge even though it did raise some red flags defensively.
 
PCHawk said:
People tend to forget how good we were on offense the first two games this year. That one loss due to terrible coaching completely derailed this season.
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The fact those games were against Miami(OH ) and ISU explains both the people forgetting and the "good on offense".
 
There isn't an internal struggle within the team.

They are losing, are frustrated, not having fun, and see the same things we do when they watch the film. Yeah, the players ain't happy, and it show...but the wrong way.

No need to search for other reasons, we are simply underperforming and coaches are not helping out the positions that are down in talent.
 
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