HawkeyeWalker
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I could, he would absolutely stumble and fall stepping on my spleen as he ran over my motionless body after my proper "heads up" tackle.
I would argue that you are wrong on that. The outside zone would actually be his best zone run. There are 3 main zone runs. 1) the inside zone, 2) the outside zone, and 3) the stretch zone. The outside zone and stretch zone are commonly mistaken to be the same.
1) The inside zone the rb aims at the guard and presses the hole and typically makes a jump cut to the cutback hole when it presents. Mark doesn't have the best feet so he struggles with this. This is actually what Canzeri excels at. In an I-back situation this is the play where the FB seems to go opposite the direction of the run.
2) The outside zone the rb aims at the tight end spot and will typically have an easier cut and is more downhill than the stretch. This looks very similar to the old man blocking off-tackle plays. This is where mark is best because it takes less shiftiness. I think he has struggled with it this year because teams have figured out this is his best run and iowa sticks with it with him.
3) The stretch zone the rb aims wide out where the slots would line up. When the hole presents it is a hard cut on the outside leg to get up field. Quick change of direction is not mark's best attribute. This is the play that edgerin James ran in Indy with Peyton manning.
mark is built best for the outside zone in the way that I have learned the zone runs. I could be wrong in this but that is my viewing. Hawkeyegamefilm would probably be a good one to have break this down.
Mark is is an outside zone runner in my view and best in basic ISO man blocking. The power g or power c can work with him too as long as he doesn't get ran down from behind. I think the main problem for iowa has been that they had gotten very stale in how to use him. I think most of that is on gd not knowing how to incorporate the zone runs into his offense. Today I saw all three types of zone runs. And mark look his best on his outside zones.
rollingthunder
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He's been the best player in this program for 3 straight seasons now. He will be SORELY missed next season.
Bingo
skinnykilmer17
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But Jon is right. I like Mark and the toughness he brings but he does have limitations and the biggest one is speed. He is a fullback who was thrust into the tailback position.
He was caught from behind today in a huge hole that probably every starting tailback in the country scores on. It didn't matter because he did score on the very next play.
Weisman has been a good player for Iowa; I like what he brings to the table and I think he adds a very useful dimension to the offense. However, generally the Iowa offense won't be successful having him in there for every down running the ball 30 times a game; he's only averaging 3.8 yards a carry this season. He also doesn't do much of anything in the passing game with only 3 receptions so far this year and 23 for his career. I still think he's a fullback playing tailback. In my opinion, he's far more effective, as is the entire offense, when he splits time with another back who is fast and elusive who has the ability to bust off long runs. Mark isn't a threat of going 60 or 70 yards on someone.
Jon made a great point that he's effective when used properly. He is not a superstar running back who you can just give the ball to 30 times a game and expect 150 yards of rushing. He has to be used correctly. I'm glad we have him because he is an effective weapon but I think a lot of fans overrate his abilities.
Jon made a great point that he's effective when used properly. He is not a superstar running back who you can just give the ball to 30 times a game and expect 150 yards of rushing. He has to be used correctly. I'm glad we have him because he is an effective weapon but I think a lot of fans overrate his abilities.
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DDThompson
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where was the thread that is relishing Weisman graduating? must have missed it.
I saw his post-game interview. He was great. He would be heads/tails better than some of the former players the B1G network has on now.
I saw his post-game interview. He was great. He would be heads/tails better than some of the former players the B1G network has on now.
HerkyDude
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As someone pointed out in another thread Weisman punished the defense alot before Wadley got the ball. That's the kind of player he is, one that eventually the defenders are hoping he doesn't come their way. Anyone who can't respect that doesn't get it. Wegher was the same kind of guy wanting to rattle the defenses teeth
rollingthunder
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Weisman >>>>>> Wegher
skinnykilmer17
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mysteron
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Where is the board protocol saying that threads have to be in response to other threads?
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mysteron
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Somebody in another thread posted that when he gets 20 or more touches a game we are 10-3.
bigjim
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I agree. The kids definitely earned his way on the field.
Nobody in their right mind says Weisman needs to go. He is top 3 all-time In rushing TDs and top 10 all time in rushing yards. He will own that TD record soon enough.
He's not just a converted fullback anymore - these last two seasons he's been a truly powerful weapon that changes how Iowa gameplans. I don't think Iowa would go for it on fourth if Weisman wasn't pretty much automatic from 3 yards.
He's not just a converted fullback anymore - these last two seasons he's been a truly powerful weapon that changes how Iowa gameplans. I don't think Iowa would go for it on fourth if Weisman wasn't pretty much automatic from 3 yards.
rollingthunder
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He's an all-time great Hawkeye player.
Fact.
Fact.
blubberhawk
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Ditto. Still the best running back Iowa has. He reads his blocks/blockers far better than the others. First guy rarely stops him.
If he runs the ball 25 time against Maryland, Iowa wins that game.
He isn't better at reading blocks than the others. If he was he would get more big gains than he does. He is a little below average in that department. What makes up for that is that he is hard to bring down. He is a bigger version of Adam robinson (though Adam read blocks better) he gets hit behind or at the line but that doesn't stop him.
when it comes to sheer vision I will give that to Canzeri. Wadley looks to be up there too but haven't seen enough to put him ahead of Canzeri. Weisman and bullock are about the same...average at best, but bullock goes down much much easier. Daniels seems to have the worst vision of all of them. Canzeri has the best vision but doesn't break tackles well and is brittle. Weisman breaks lots of tackles and his size allows him to handle the bruises and keep playing. Is he the best rb on the team from sheer workload...yes. But he needs speed to counterbalance him. That is why Canzeri and wadley are important.
HawkeyeWalker
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Agreed, but the poster who mentioned he "can't wait until he uses up his eligibility ", isn't always in his right mind.
