The OLine

While your story is compelling, I believe you are missing my point.
My post was about the feast or famine of our OL when blocking 7- 8 defenders.
One home run and a lot of plays for very few yds.

The 47-118 yds stat was presented to support that statement. Your expansive case that QB sacks negatively impact the rushing stat, while true, actually supports my post of feast or famine with our OL. The sacks are part of the feast or famine of our OL. Regardless of whether they are a separate category or not, they are snaps resulting in negative yardage due to our OL inability to block 7-8 defenders overwhelming our 5 OL.
But "That's football". I kid but kind of being serious. This is often the case with running football teams. They would luv to get 5-6 yds every run play but it just doesn't happen like that, especially when the O is now one dimensional in the eyes of the defense.

It's prob gunna be like that against Minny to so I would expect that. Fortunately, I have heard Minny is fairly young in the backend of the D and struggling a bit there, so maybe Hill will have some success throwing on them. I am excited to see if this is the case.
 
It would actually be fourth and 2.47.

There have been so many times when Iowa has played a team like MN with Maroney or Barber....or Wisconsin's Ball or Dayne....or MI's Blake Corum.....where I was semi legit scared the opposing coach would do just that.

I know deep down, it's just not a good idea and wouldn't work for so many reasons. I mean, it would work, until it didn't.

But then, you know, why wouldn't it work over time?
 
There have been so many times when Iowa has played a team like MN with Maroney or Barber....or Wisconsin's Ball or Dayne....or MI's Blake Corum.....where I was semi legit scared the opposing coach would do just that.

I know deep down, it's just not a good idea and wouldn't work for so many reasons. I mean, it would work, until it didn't.

But then, you know, why wouldn't it work over time?
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Ok, I'm gonna go out on a limb, here.
In Iowa's first 5 games the OLine sucked by any standard. OL Nick DeJong started all those games. The last two games he hasn't played a down, and Iowa's OL looked substantially better.
Also, is it a coincidence that Iowa's OL is looking better since they stopped changing OLine players every other possession? The Wisconsin game was the first game this season where they didn't sub for the starting 5 OLinemen, and it was by far the best OLine performance of the season.
It's NOT a coincidence. You can't expect the OLine to have cohesion when you're changing parts every 4 or 5 plays. Egads, play the current 5 the entire game -- it's not like they're getting 70-100 plays/game!
I hope you are right. Certainly Feth has been good, our center‘s consistent improvement, and Colby now a permanent and very physical guard, have had positive results.
 
Given how little rotation we have seen, and given that most of the changes have been due to injury and not trying new guys out, I get the feeling that the brain trust is looking to find 5 veterans and stick with them down the stretch. There are a lot of experienced OL in front of Trevor. Not saying they are better, but I feel as though KF has the guys on the field he wants.
Makes good sense. Interesting post.
 
There have been so many times when Iowa has played a team like MN with Maroney or Barber....or Wisconsin's Ball or Dayne....or MI's Blake Corum.....where I was semi legit scared the opposing coach would do just that.

I know deep down, it's just not a good idea and wouldn't work for so many reasons. I mean, it would work, until it didn't.

But then, you know, why wouldn't it work over time?

Michigan State did it to us in 2015.
 
What are you talking about? You're claiming 46 of 47 running plays ended up behind the chains, right? So take off the sacks that are passing game mistakes and negative fumble recoveries, which aren't relevant to your conclusion and you have 44 running plays for positive 215 yards, including whatever abortion earned Rico a loss of 5 yards. That's an average of 4.9 YPC.

The 18 lost sack yards has nothing to do with your argument about the running game. Attributing those sack losses to the running game is very misleading. Now, they obviously should be included if we're discussing the total team offensive production, but you weren't having that discussion. Then look to the play by play:

3rd & 5 at IOWA 30
(15:00 - 1st) Leshon Williams run for 8 yds to the IOWA 38 for a 1ST down

2nd & 7 at IOWA 41

(15:00 - 1st) Kaleb Johnson run for 9 yds to the 50 yard line for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at IOWA 10

(13:09 - 2nd) Kaleb Johnson run for 9 yds to the IOWA 19

1st & 10 at IOWA 41

(0:52 - 3rd) Leshon Williams run for 9 yds to the 50 yard line

2nd & 1 at 50

(0:00 - 3rd) Leshon Williams run for 10 yds to the WIS 40 for a 1ST down.

1st & 10 at IOWA 34

(8:34 - 4th) Leshon Williams run for 8 yds to the IOWA 42

2nd & 2 at IOWA 42

(8:34 - 4th) Leshon Williams run for 5 yds to the IOWA 47 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at WIS 39

(2:50 - 4th) Leshon Williams run for 15 yds to the WIS 24 for a 1ST down.

All of those plays put Iowa ahead of the chains.


Plus the 82 yard TD. So instead of having 46 actual running plays there were only 44 and instead of 46 out 47 behind the chains was more like 34 of 44 for a 4.9 YPC. Sacks should come out of the team passing total like the NFL. Considering them rushing yards distorts the actual running game that includes only plays that were attempted runs. Most running teams look very much like Iowa, particularly knowing our run game faces 6-8 guys in the box every single down. We punch and punch and occasionally break great running plays.

The preferred defense against Iowa is just crash through or around the LOS as many times as possible because it's dual use. Stuff the run or pressure the QB if Iowa throws. The line crash has been punished the last two weeks by the running game. It would be nice to present a passing threat and then those 2 and 3 yard games start becoming 4-6 yard gains with more running room providing more longer 10 yard kind of runs.

If the NFL rules were applied last week Iowa's passing game produced 19 yards. I don't know how anyone could be committed to a QB in an offense where the passing game is only a net 19 yards.

I can't get over looking at all the success on 1st down which hasn't been happening in previous games and last year. This just proves how important it is to get chunk yards on first down as it helps so much to move the chains. Just think how it will benefit when Iowa figures out the passing situation a bit more. The offense would look totally different and would again be gaining over 300 yrds a game. Right now Iowa is a bit handcuffed with the passing game.
 
While your story is compelling, I believe you are missing my point.
My post was about the feast or famine of our OL when blocking 7- 8 defenders.
One home run and a lot of plays for very few yds.

The 47-118 yds stat was presented to support that statement. Your expansive case that QB sacks negatively impact the rushing stat, while true, actually supports my post of feast or famine with our OL. The sacks are part of the feast or famine of our OL. Regardless of whether they are a separate category or not, they are snaps resulting in negative yardage due to our OL inability to block 7-8 defenders overwhelming our 5 OL.
Are you an old debater? I am and I believe I recognize a shifting argument when I see one. You were talking very specifically about the running game. Your factual premise was utterly defeated on multiple levels, including lost sack yardage as an unstated part of your premise that 46 of 47 running plays were behind the sticks. Your words.

You thought you were on to something, but you weren't. While I agree the offensive line has not been consistent, had you actually just said that and left it at that you would have brooked no disagreement. Going over the fact/logic cliff is what happens when you are so determined to denigrate the team you claim to support that you started reaching for a misleading and fundamental misstatement about the game and the O Lines play in the last game.

If you find you cannot resist the need to denigrate the team or the coaches then maybe just dump Iowa.​
 
Ok, I'm gonna go out on a limb, here.
In Iowa's first 5 games the OLine sucked by any standard. OL Nick DeJong started all those games. The last two games he hasn't played a down, and Iowa's OL looked substantially better.
Also, is it a coincidence that Iowa's OL is looking better since they stopped changing OLine players every other possession? The Wisconsin game was the first game this season where they didn't sub for the starting 5 OLinemen, and it was by far the best OLine performance of the season.
It's NOT a coincidence. You can't expect the OLine to have cohesion when you're changing parts every 4 or 5 plays. Egads, play the current 5 the entire game -- it's not like they're getting 70-100 plays/game!
Hopefully we have seen the last of Nick. The coaches love him but he really is a bad O Lineman. Feth is a pretty good mauler and Colby really is a good right guard. Richman has to play much better and Dunker needs to improve at a faster climb rate.

The smaller number of plays was a damn sharp observation. The lineman really doesn't need to play more than about 65-70 plays a game. It would be nice to see closer to 80 than 40 but they are improving.
 
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You are presenting misleading facts, defamation by implication if you will. You know, and I know, that you were talking about the play on running downs. But you included sack yardage, which has no relevance to the running game.

That's like a case I had a few years ago. Among other heinous things this dangerous and diabolical woman did was make a totally false police report that caused my client's arrest, overnight incarceration, and about $10,000 in criminal defense fees. The County Attorney ultimately realized what was going on and just dropped the case. In the interim, Dr. Spooky (her local nickname) sent an email to everyone in a DM area school district email list, so about 2000 people with my client's mug shot and details of her arrest.

Well, the arrest was for harassment claiming my client sat behind Dr. Spooky at a 4 Mile Rec center youth basketball game. Since she was a doctor-and she played that card to the max-the local police morons made the arrest with no investigation.

In the civil defamation case, we interviewed everyone that was known to be at 4 Mile and every single one of them said they never saw Dr. Spooky on that date or time. Following a discovery request Dr. Spooky destroyed her smart phone so we couldn't get the geodata off it. The geodata would have corroborated the 15-20 witnesses we called from 4 Mile and shown Dr. Spooky was not even at 4 Mile Rec Center on the date and time alleged.

The detail I gave above is the defamation by implication claim. Every single word in that mass email to the school email list was literally true. BUT, and that's a big but, Dr. Spooky forgot to include that the arrest was prompted by her own numerous lies to area law enforcement, and to one cop on one day, and that her victim never did anything to her. So, withholding that information changed the context of the truthful statements to a defamatory statement.

Some 14 days of trial produced a $ 1.14 million dollar judgment. That's what you are doing, albeit without the psycho motivation and level of dishonesty. You were explicitly describing, in detail, the running game performance. You counted up the running plays including the sack yardage to diminish the huge improvement the running game showed against Bucky. You also said every Iowa run but the TD ended behind the chains. It took just a quick look to find at least 9 other running plays that put Iowa ahead of the chains.

The offense isn't good but you don't need to make up or distort facts to make seem worse. When you start making things up or presenting misleading arguments to diminish Iowa is kind of the threshold of not really being an Iowa fan anymore.

Damn, Teddy

Lotta Dr Spooky style situations going around

One word, one minor incident can cost a career, tissue paper sensitivity is making a mockery of society
 
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Damn, Teddy

Lotta Dr Spoopy style situations going around

One word, one minor incident can cost a career, tissue paper sensitivity is making a mockery of society
Brother, I have not even scratched the surface of the illegal, truly evil shit Dr. Spooky did. Once people realized that she made everything up they became pariahs. Spooky made thousands of false publications. The Court of Appeals described it as "a 15-month sinister campaign to destroy [Plaintiff's] life."

There are too many suits over ridiculously false claims of rights and to redress for micro aggressions.
 
Can we take a break from beating up BF and give props to the OL???

Yes, there were a lot of 3 and outs. But, there was also a lot of push and no negative runs that I recall. 2nd and 8 was about the worst position we were in all day. In addition to push, there was occassional holes to bolt through. And this, all knowing that there was not even a hint of worry of throwing over the top, so there were 8 guys in the box all day.

Colby is a RG. DO NOT MOVE HIM AGAIN!
Feth is a difference maker in there.
Jones is improving week on week.
We finally have a RT
I can't tell if Richmon is the next 1st rounder or just a guy, but he is holding his own.

Finally, for those who enjoy Xs and Os, has anyone noticed we are no longer a zone blocking team??? It was all drive blocking and trap/pull blocking.

Whatever it is, keep it going boys!!!!
after todays game? not at all. Line was awful. The coaching staff(Kirk and Brian) need to move on. The entire offensive skeem needs revamped. Iowa offense being a national laughing stock is a complete embarrassment
 
Last week...
Our run blocking seems to be feast or famine.
We had 47 rushes for 118 yds. 2.5 per attempt.
One rush for 82 yds.
One time we broke threw the front 7-8 defensive stack and went to the house.
The other 47 ended up behind the chains.
Need to do whatever we can to take teams out of the 7-8 man stack in the box.
This week....
Our run blocking seems to be feast or famine.
We had 28 rushes for 11 yds.
0.4 yds per attempt.
No break through for one big play this week.
Negative yards rushing in 2nd half.
We barely moved the chains.
(Still)
Need to do whatever we can to take teams out of the 7-8 man stack in the box.
 
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