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DexterMorgan
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I don't even need to be on the outside looking in to see that Iowa does have what I would call significant issues with their football program.
Iowa football will always be my #1 sports interest but 3 times (2001, 2007, & 2010) in the last 10 years Iowa has dealt with significant off the field issues.
Many other programs have the same problems. Its part of college football. However, I must say it has been a bit humorous to read all of these negative comments regarding OSU when not more than a few months ago Iowa was the big news around college football in a negative way.
Iowa football will always be my #1 sports interest but 3 times (2001, 2007, & 2010) in the last 10 years Iowa has dealt with significant off the field issues.
Many other programs have the same problems. Its part of college football. However, I must say it has been a bit humorous to read all of these negative comments regarding OSU when not more than a few months ago Iowa was the big news around college football in a negative way.
NewMexHawk
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Would have been more informative if heard had actually stated WHAT the major issues are for Iowa.
Almost every BCS school has kids busted for pot. And our star receiver was NOT running the drug house...he was living there though.
To put Iowa in the same class as osu is a true injustice. osu coaches and the athletic dept are cheaters...period. Iowa has not been accused of recruiting violations or any of the stuff that is going on/went on at osu. And you can't say, well all the teams are cheating...not until someone exposes a program and proves it.
Comments like this by this jerk can harm Iowa immensely and his comments are not even valid allegations or does he have any proof. Heard does not like the Big 10...that is well known.
Someone should call him on what he is saying and make him prove what he is saying about Iowa. But of course, jerks like this have no intention...he is the Rush Limbaugh of sports. Even if proven wrong, he will not retract any statements...he just makes the allegations...
Almost every BCS school has kids busted for pot. And our star receiver was NOT running the drug house...he was living there though.
To put Iowa in the same class as osu is a true injustice. osu coaches and the athletic dept are cheaters...period. Iowa has not been accused of recruiting violations or any of the stuff that is going on/went on at osu. And you can't say, well all the teams are cheating...not until someone exposes a program and proves it.
Comments like this by this jerk can harm Iowa immensely and his comments are not even valid allegations or does he have any proof. Heard does not like the Big 10...that is well known.
Someone should call him on what he is saying and make him prove what he is saying about Iowa. But of course, jerks like this have no intention...he is the Rush Limbaugh of sports. Even if proven wrong, he will not retract any statements...he just makes the allegations...
silvanthalas
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Why do that when it's so much easier to make insinuations by lumping programs together?
DwayneTwill
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The rhabdo thing wasn't nearly as bad as OSU's issues, but it was worse than most Hawk fans want to admit.
DexterMorgan
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I agree with that. But i don't think it speaks to deeper issues inside the program. It is what it is, it happened, it was unfortunate, and it's been addressed.
HawkeyeMike23
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Very true. Every fan base will find a way to rationalize its own problems. Weather it's the players trading their own possesions for tattoos or their own conditioning program putting 15 guys in the hospital.
That said, I'm still very much enjoying watching OSU fall apart.
BSpringsteen
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Then there was the pictures of Dmonique Douglas with hundreds of dollars of cash, and credit card fraud
Abe and Cedric supposedly raped a girl while she was unconscious.
We're not a scandalous program, but we're not squeaky clean either.
Abe and Cedric supposedly raped a girl while she was unconscious.
We're not a scandalous program, but we're not squeaky clean either.
DwayneTwill
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I agree 100%.
As discussed above, as horrible as those cases were, they weren't committed or covered up by the coaching staff or administration. Those players were suspended and dismissed.
At best, Tressel covered up the cars, cash, and tattoos his players were getting. At worst, he and/or the athletic department arranged or facilitated those transactions. It's up to the NCAA to figure out who did what.
ArizonaHawkeye88
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heard has a problem with KF. He will down grade Iowa any chance he gets.
hawkeyescott
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The guy has no idea what he is talking about anyway, he is the one that read some tweets about Jim Hendry getting fired by the Cubs and announced it on his show without even confirming anything about it.
Of all D1 programs, Iowa is like number 2 in arrests. We know there are extenuating circumstances. However, some of these are due to cold weather and the nothing to do factor.
Picking problem kids can go with the Michigan kids and the Ohio Kids. Iowa did take some players who their in-state programs wouldn't touch.
However, linking that stuff with cheating is unfair. But Cowherd is all about propping up the coast and bashing the middle. Really just your fault for listening to him.
Picking problem kids can go with the Michigan kids and the Ohio Kids. Iowa did take some players who their in-state programs wouldn't touch.
However, linking that stuff with cheating is unfair. But Cowherd is all about propping up the coast and bashing the middle. Really just your fault for listening to him.
74Hunter
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From the outside looking in, you cannot compare the NCAA violations and coverup at tOSU to the things that happened at Iowa (rhabdo, arrests, etc). It’s apples and pears.
However, from the outside, it does look like both programs have a lack of institutional control to some degree, fwiw.
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That is too broad brush. Iowa City had a unique law that allowed underage kids into bars,which result in a lot of Paula arrests...that pushed these numbers up. The vast majority of these arrests were for misdeamonor alchohol deals. How many on here who attended college never took a single sip of alchohol til legal? That whole SI article was so deceptive,not sorting out felonies from misdemeanors.
Yes,the Detroit kids messed up,and that was not good,but recent problems are basically college kid drinking stuff. It happens. Fans in Columbus are talking about how Pryor had many brushes with the law that were undocumented...having a compliant local police force,which I suspect is the case in SEC towns, makes all the difference.
DexterMorgan
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We all know that. The point is that's how it looks to outsiders.
cuinknk
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That's an ignorant comment.
I listen to Colin, almost daily, and I've heard him talk positive about Iowa, much more than I've heard him talk negative.
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kicker22
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I guess the problem I have is that everyone is using the Tat 5 argument as a means to justify what is going on at OSU and failing to recognize it's the lack of institutional control that got them in hot water. Had Sweater Vest and OSU not tried to cover things up and lied about everything going on during the investigations then they wouldn't be in the situation they are in now, in which all the other dirt from the past is coming back to haunt them.
