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DexterMorgan
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Just heard the same thing. He grouped us together as "cold weather" teams and that we have to take risks on players because of that . Said Iowa was dealing with "Major Issues" which i don't necessarily agree with.
Think he was actually pretty far off base.
Think he was actually pretty far off base.
silvanthalas
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By that logic, the southern/southwest teams never take risks. Which means we all just imagined those USC sanctions and the Cam Newton stuff.
DexterMorgan
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By that logic, the southern/southwest teams never take risks. Which means we all just imagined those USC sanctions and the Cam Newton stuff.
Yeah I don't really think he thought that one through. Par for the course for Cowherd. I don't really mind Cowherd but sometimes he says some really stupid stuff.
Just an example he said the best comedy OF ALL TIME was Mrs. Doubtfire. Yes...Mrs. Doubtfire.
BSpringsteen
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Take off your blinders for a minute and look at this from the outside...
Before the bowl game, your record setting WR is arrested for keeping a drug house, using cocaine / pills
Your suspended starting RB is caught the night before the game smoking pot with his buddies in Des Moines.
So 1/3 of your skill position players on offense for the year are now in trouble with the law.
Then, this summer, workouts hospitalize 13 players.
You can sugarcoat things all you want, but from the outside looking in, Iowa appears to be Football U.
DexterMorgan
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We've definitely had some pretty troubling issues but I don't really feel like the program is in trouble so to say. Maybe that is just homerism though. I wouldn't think the average college football fan would name Iowa if you asked them for say their top 5 programs with major issues.
DexterMorgan
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(Just happened on the show)
Comparing College football to slavery is the most retarded thing I've ever heard
Comparing College football to slavery is the most retarded thing I've ever heard
Which is why you take everything you hear on talk radio(sports or politics) with a huge grain of salt. Rarely do they let facts intercede on their opinions or daily narrative. The charges on DJK were basically dropped and ARob smoked pot....equating that with systemic corruption is silly.
There is virtually zero football programs in the country that could meet that standard. Find me a school where no students smoke pot...maybe BYU..otherwise, players are engaging in it also,like all students.
It is a lazy comparative. The Rybadosis problem has anything to do with players getting cars? What a stretch.
goods10
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None of that has anything to do with cheating. Let alone being mentioned in the same sentence as Ohio State.
Players smoking pot? Really? What team in america doesn't have that going on? BYU maybe....the DJK thing was a one and only instance so I can't agree with someone flagging the program on that one case. The hospital thing that happened this summer is not an "issue" like what Ohio State and probably the SEC is doing. That was a fluke thing. I don't have my blinders on. Thanks.
BSpringsteen
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I don't disagree with you Dexter, but I'm not sure I agree either.
What we haven't had are huge national scandals, save for Rhabdo which I think was much ado about nothing.
What we haven't had are huge national scandals, save for Rhabdo which I think was much ado about nothing.
BSpringsteen
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Neither of you are looking at this as an outside perspective looking in.
DexterMorgan
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Again, he wasn't comparing Iowa to OSU about cheating, or control but as cold weather schools.
DexterMorgan
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You could easily make a point that we have to recruit "riskier" players by listing the infractions from the past 5-7 years which is essentially what he's doing. It isn't as much homerism that we brush it off as much as we just know (or think we know) what happened in each individual issue since we're closer to the program and most (granted not all) were very minor.
goods10
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I could be mistaken but he did say Iowa has Major issues and he said that in the same rant about Ohio State cheating so think about it from someone perspective that doesn't know about Iowa like we do. Those people will more than likely assume Iowa's program is like Ohio State.
DexterMorgan
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He did. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was referring to all the arrests.
Mac50702
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In some eyes the "hospital thing" was worse. You had kids in the hospital that did workouts instructed by paid professionals under paid professionals supervision which resulsted in physical harm towards those kids.
If you truly did take off your blinders and look at it from a non sports fan point of view you will see on one hand kids willingly exchange items that belonged to them for a tat or a car. And then on the other hand you have kids that were instructed by men they trust to complete a workout which resulted in placing them in the hospital with a serious condition.
We may not have broken any rules with the Rhabo thing, but it certainly does not sound any better to the outside world than tat-gate does.
DexterMorgan
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Worse than the decade of cheating at OSU? I doubt it. The Rhabdo thing was an accident that, alone makes it not as bad.
EDIT: I guess there are probably some OSU fans that think the Rhabdo issue was worse.
theboat
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It is a good thing those "warm weather schools" never take on risky players.
Iowa's problems are normal college kid problems. The issue is that they always seem to happen in groups, which sucks, but it happens. The rhabdo thing is the only thing that could be seen differently, but that was just kids and coaches pushing themselves too hard too fast and has nothing to do with "risky" players.
Iowa's problems are normal college kid problems. The issue is that they always seem to happen in groups, which sucks, but it happens. The rhabdo thing is the only thing that could be seen differently, but that was just kids and coaches pushing themselves too hard too fast and has nothing to do with "risky" players.
Some people probably considered it something you could die from without doing the research, thus making it worse then O$U scandal. About five percent of rhabdomyolysis cases result in death.
