The football tidbits from KirFer

[WinOneThisCentury]

That isnt really applicable here at all. There wasnt a 3 man QB competition going into the 2009 season. It was Stanzi's job and everybody knew it. We saw how his backup looked when forced in action (NU at home). Each season isnt an apples to apples comparison when it comes to playing time, especially at the QB position.

Any why in the hell would you change your quarterback when you are in the midst of the best start in program history?

Really, not applicable at all. The comment I was addressing was that STATS ultimately should determine the QB. The point is that STATS don't always tell the whole story and address why coaches may choose or stay with a particular QB. Now, I'm not saying they aren't an important measure of performance...but there is alot more to the equation than whether Sokol threw for 40 more yards in a spring game.

And you may choose to change your QB because the one you have in the game is sucking and putting the team in one hole after another. Ask Don Shula about why he went to Griese when his current QB was riding a 11 game winning streak. Stanzi almost cost his team the Northern Iowa game, Indiana, Ark State...he was awful at the beginning of that year. That defense bailed him out time and time again.

 

[nationalchamps]

If I had to wager right now, I'd bet we see Rudock get the start against NIU, but we will see all three QB's at some point during the first 2 or 3 games.

 

[Section136]

Stanzi almost cost his team the Northern Iowa game, Indiana, Ark State...he was awful at the beginning of that year. That defense bailed him out time and time again.

Stanzi was awful against Indiana until the 4th quarter, I wont argue that.

He was not awful against UNI and Arky State.

UNI- 22/34, 242 yards and 1 TD/0 INT

Arky State- 18/26, 296 yards and 3 TD/2 INT

Stanzi did throw a pick 6 in the Arky State game but the fact that Iowa completely let off the gas and continually ran into a defense that was putting 8 or 9 men in the box on a regular basis had more to do with that game being close than Stanzi's play.

Northern Iowa Panthers vs. Iowa Hawkeyes - Box Score - September 05, 2009 - ESPN

Arkansas State Red Wolves vs. Iowa Hawkeyes - Box Score - October 03, 2009 - ESPN

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

Stanzi was awful against Indiana until the 4th quarter, I wont argue that.

He was not awful against UNI and Arky State.

UNI- 22/34, 242 yards and 1 TD/0 INT

Arky State- 18/26, 296 yards and 3 TD/2 INT

Stanzi did throw a pick 6 in the Arky State game but the fact that Iowa completely let off the gas and continually ran into a defense that was putting 8 or 9 men in the box on a regular basis had more to do with that game being close than Stanzi's play.

Northern Iowa Panthers vs. Iowa Hawkeyes - Box Score - September 05, 2009 - ESPN

Arkansas State Red Wolves vs. Iowa Hawkeyes - Box Score - October 03, 2009 - ESPN

Stanzi was terrible in the first half of the UNI game, ...with a fumble in our territory...which the D held them to 3 as always. He did play better the second half, but not great. He did nothing in the first half but look lost. He was inconsistent against Arizona...pick six there too. Michigan, pick six to start the game. In the Ark State game we were up 21 - 7 with a chance to put it away, and he throws a pick six for 75 yards on a completely bonehead throw...and one he could have just thrown away. He wasn't consistent very often that entire year.

But we digress here. My argument supports your question..."why would you pull your QB when the team is off to the best start ever...even though your QB leads the country in a few negative STATS (pick sixes and interceptions)...you leave him in because there are other factors contributing other than just statistics. Which is what I've been saying to the ******* who thinks because Sokol had better stats in the spring game, he should be the starter.

 

[hwk23]

So let's say Sokol had better STATS in the spring game, so he starts right...but, let's say, he made some poor reads, didn't get people in the right position on several plays (not evident to many of us), or threw into coverage a couple more times than Ruduck. Would you still say the stats win?

Yes, it's the end results that matter. I saw JVB NOT throw into coverage, even man coverage, all year last year. It's no great skill to NOT throw into coverage, anyone could do it. Just sit back and do nothing and you won't throw into coveage, it's easy.

This team stresses negative play way too much, it leads to our QB's being head cases. It's a poor way to coach QB's and it leads to paralyis by analysis. JVB was also toward the bottom of the country in yards per attempt at 5.8 ypa which leads to a lot of losses. We also were one of the worst at 3rd down %.

In the spring game, Rudock had 6.0 ypa and Sokol 10.2 ypa. It's a small sample but 6.0 ypa will lead to a season like last year whereas 10.2 will probably give us at least 8 wins or more (even if more interceptions are thrown). Sokol had about 10 ypa in Juco so maybe it's not a fluke. Ruduck will have to show a lot of improvement if we don't just want another rerun of last year.

Besides all that, personally I think Sokol fits GD better because he seems to do very well when the play breaks down. I don't think GD system will work with just a traditional pro style QB.

 

[deanvogs]

Yes, it's the end results that matter. I saw JVB NOT throw into coverage, even man coverage, all year last year. It's no great skill to NOT throw into coverage, anyone could do it. Just sit back and do nothing and you won't throw into coveage, it's easy.

This team stresses negative play way too much, it leads to our QB's being head cases. It's a poor way to coach QB's and it leads to paralyis by analysis. JVB was also toward the bottom of the country in yards per attempt at 5.8 ypa which leads to a lot of losses. We also were one of the worst at 3rd down %.

In the spring game, Rudock had 6.0 ypa and Sokol 10.2 ypa. It's a small sample but 6.0 ypa will lead to a season like last year whereas 10.2 will probably give us at least 8 wins or more (even if more interceptions are thrown). Sokol had about 10 ypa in Juco so maybe it's not a fluke. Ruduck will have to show a lot of improvement if we don't just want another rerun of last year.

Besides all that, personally I think Sokol fits GD better because he seems to do very well when the play breaks down. I don't think GD system will work with just a traditional pro style QB.

All teams stress NOT turning over the ball. Tate wasn't shy taking risks, and neither was Stanzi.

JV didn't throw into coverage, because he was never on the same page or trusted the WR. That was easy to see, nobody was comfortable in the offense last year. Hopefully as the new players come in, and get the offense things will start clicking for the team.

 

[OUTofTOWNHAWK]

All teams stress NOT turning over the ball. Tate wasn't shy taking risks, and neither was Stanzi.

JV didn't throw into coverage, because he was never on the same page or trusted the WR. That was easy to see, nobody was comfortable in the offense last year. Hopefully as the new players come in, and get the offense things will start clicking for the team.

I thought Stanzi and the O were more fun to watch as SO and a JR. I let the ball fly, sure he had a lot of ints but they took shots down field. Then Stanzi as a SR looked scared of every situation. Yeah he had less INTs but very boring offense with little results down field. JVB did the same thing but to the point of no offense at all. Its like the coaches scare them into not throwing the ball instead of coaching them where to throw the ball.


This seems to be a Kirk, Ken, and Greg problem. I dont know who is to blame really but it seems the more a kid is in the Iowa program the more scared he is to play football.

 

[ShadasRevenge]

KirFer? When did that start? It's terrible.

 

[PJHawk]

KirFer? When did that start? It's terrible.

It's better than Corporal Kirk and Kirkliter.

 

[OUTofTOWNHAWK]

hahaha kirkliter.

 

[dmShortSaledude]

You'd be mad if you were the starter and another took it from you because he earned it? The poster said the CJ is a favorite of a coach but HASN'T EARNED it yet and are waiting for him to do so and hope he does. What's the problem with what he said? Even coaches have favorites but sounds like they want someone to earn it which is all you can ask for.

The grandson of Bobby Beathard will be given a chance to play. No matter how bad he is, nor how good the start good the starter is, CJ will at least get a shot at playing.... I hope he earns & wins the starting spot. If he does, he will be a very good QB. As Ruddock is not bad. He lit up both scrimmages with excellent numbers.

 

[Eda]

KirFer? When did that start? It's terrible.

Should I have used "teh Kurt", instead?

 

[hwk23]

All teams stress NOT turning over the ball. Tate wasn't shy taking risks, and neither was Stanzi.

JV didn't throw into coverage, because he was never on the same page or trusted the WR. That was easy to see, nobody was comfortable in the offense last year. Hopefully as the new players come in, and get the offense things will start clicking for the team.

No kidding. Never seen a QB so afraid to throw the ball as JVB. Either way it's a coaching issue. A QB and a WR currently sitting with NFL teams and one of the worst passing offenses in the country.