The football tidbits from KirFer

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KF talking at an I-club event mentions Ruddock with a slight edge, mainly due to time in the program.

"Ferentz, who talked to The Gazette before speaking tonight at an I-Club banquet at Thunder Hills Country Club, said red-shirt sophomore Jake Rudock has a slight advantage over junior Cody Sokol and red-shirt freshman C.J. Beathard. Rudock’s two years with the Iowa program have earned him the edge but no guarantees entering summer workouts."

Ferentz on QB competition and other FB notes | TheGazette

Ultimately, I think Sokol will push him for the spot (and possibly edge Ruddock out), with his athleticism.
 
The coaches are hoping Beathard will be ready to take the reigns at some point in the season. Most talented, just need to get him ready. That is their hope.
 
eveningnewsteam said:
The coaches are hoping Beathard will be ready to take the reigns at some point in the season. Most talented, just need to get him ready. That is their hope.
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do you know this first hand or is this your speculation? that is to say are you just projecting your own hope onto the coaches?
 
NCHawker said:
do you know this first hand or is this your speculation? that is to say are you just projecting your own hope onto the coaches?
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First hand. I didn't question him but I wanted to ask what if the guy in front of Beathard is playing well do you just sit him because cj is ready? It sounded like they're waiting for beathard to step up and take command of the offense. Until then, it's musical chairs for reps at QB. He made no bones about it that cj is their guy.
 
eveningnewsteam said:
First hand. I didn't question him but I wanted to ask what if the guy in front of Beathard is playing well do you just sit him because cj is ready? It sounded like they're waiting for beathard to step up and take command of the offense. Until then, it's musical chairs for reps at QB. He made no bones about it that cj is their guy.
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Which coach said this? It's an interesting perspective that's why I'm asking. Not saying you are making it up. However, this would defeat the whole "may the best man win philosophy". Basically you're saying Beathard is their favorite, but he hasn't earned it yet. Color me skeptical. I'm not sure that's the right way to go about things. Regardless how a coach feels on the inside the players should have to earn it on the field before being considered the favorite.

How would you feel if you were Rudock or Sokol and you heard this news? You've been doing everything you can to earn that starting spot since arriving at Iowa, you're performing as well or better than Beathard, and then you hear a Coach say Beathard is the favorite he just needs to step up and take it.... I don't know about you but I'd be ticked off. It doesn't seem like something Ferentz would do. However, this could be a Greg Davis thing. Beathard certainly fits his system a little better than the others.
 
DP5555 said:
Which coach said this? It's an interesting perspective that's why I'm asking. Not saying you are making it up. However, this would defeat the whole "may the best man win philosophy". Basically you're saying Beathard is their favorite, but he hasn't earned it yet. Color me skeptical. I'm not sure that's the right way to go about things. Regardless how a coach feels on the inside the players should have to earn it on the field before being considered the favorite.

How would you feel if you were Rudock or Sokol and you heard this news? You've been doing everything you can to earn that starting spot since arriving at Iowa, you're performing as well or better than Beathard, and then you hear a Coach say Beathard is the favorite he just needs to step up and take it.... I don't know about you but I'd be ticked off. It doesn't seem like something Ferentz would do. However, this could be a Greg Davis thing. Beathard certainly fits his system a little better than the others.
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It wasnt GD who said it, but yeah I thought it was pretty odd. I wanted to say, if you guys think CJ is the guy, then give him most of the reps and get him ready for the opener. Obviously I didnt say anything back as these guys know a helluva lot more than I do regarding football and their players.
 
Wow...every once in a while I like to read about the absurd beliefs and views of others as it helps me to understand that everyones reality really is different. This thread accomplishes that for me. We are going to give Rudock the job, but boy we are really wanting Beathard to take over at or around game five. We are going to work to get him ready by then...the five games of taking 3rd string reps should be just about right. Impressive thinking and interpretation of a coaches comments most likely taken out of context.

In the spring game, I saw Rudock throw a 7 yard out almost completely across the field. It was on time and was a frozen rope. That was all I needed to know about his arm strength which was a major question mark. If he's the most cerebral, has leadership skills, and can place the ball like that, he wins the job and he wins it early in camp. I thought Sokol was solid too, I just think Rudock's command of the offense and upside (3 full years to go) most likely play into the decision also.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Wow...every once in a while I like to read about the absurd beliefs and views of others as it helps me to understand that everyones reality really is different. This thread accomplishes that for me. We are going to give Rudock the job, but boy we are really wanting Beathard to take over at or around game five. We are going to work to get him ready by then...the five games of taking 3rd string reps should be just about right. Impressive thinking and interpretation of a coaches comments most likely taken out of context.

In the spring game, I saw Rudock throw a 7 yard out almost completely across the field. It was on time and was a frozen rope. That was all I needed to know about his arm strength which was a major question mark. If he's the most cerebral, has leadership skills, and can place the ball like that, he wins the job and he wins it early in camp. I thought Sokol was solid too, I just think Rudock's command of the offense and upside (3 full years to go) most likely play into the decision also.
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Comments like this are why people rarely share info. Everyone thinks they know everything.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
I just think Rudock's command of the offense and upside (3 full years to go) most likely play into the decision also.
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This is the 2nd year for both Beathard and Rudock in the current offense and CJ has 4 full years to go.

Not sure either of these points has anything to do with the decision.
 
The starting QB at Iowa is like being hired for a federal job. No matter how bad you screw up, you won't lose your job.

All the QBs need to work like dogs because if you don't get the top spot you wont see the field unless the top guy is injured.
 
hawkinn3 said:
The starting QB at Iowa is like being hired for a federal job. No matter how bad you screw up, you won't lose your job.

All the QBs need to work like dogs because if you don't get the top spot you wont see the field unless the top guy is injured.
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Jake Christiasen says hai.
Thanks for adding to the conversation.
Bye bye then.
 
DP5555 said:
Which coach said this? It's an interesting perspective that's why I'm asking. Not saying you are making it up. However, this would defeat the whole "may the best man win philosophy". Basically you're saying Beathard is their favorite, but he hasn't earned it yet. Color me skeptical. I'm not sure that's the right way to go about things. Regardless how a coach feels on the inside the players should have to earn it on the field before being considered the favorite.

How would you feel if you were Rudock or Sokol and you heard this news? You've been doing everything you can to earn that starting spot since arriving at Iowa, you're performing as well or better than Beathard, and then you hear a Coach say Beathard is the favorite he just needs to step up and take it.... I don't know about you but I'd be ticked off. It doesn't seem like something Ferentz would do. However, this could be a Greg Davis thing. Beathard certainly fits his system a little better than the others.
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You'd be mad if you were the starter and another took it from you because he earned it? The poster said the CJ is a favorite of a coach but HASN'T EARNED it yet and are waiting for him to do so and hope he does. What's the problem with what he said? Even coaches have favorites but sounds like they want someone to earn it which is all you can ask for.
 
hawkinn3 said:
The starting QB at Iowa is like being hired for a federal job. No matter how bad you screw up, you won't lose your job.

All the QBs need to work like dogs because if you don't get the top spot you wont see the field unless the top guy is injured.
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You need to take a step back and think about what you're saying before rushing to judgement based on one season. Which is what you're doing right? Last year there was not a QB battle. James played extremely well his junior season, and given the circumstances around a new offense there wasn't any reason to have an open competition going into the season. The last time there was a QB battle he did end up switching guys. We can all argue that took too long to happen, but in the end he made the switch.

Now I realize KF hasn't shown he's a big fan of a revolving door at QB (I'm not either), but he's flat out said they will rotate until they find the right guy this year. Your comments basically mean you think KF is lying... it's just not necessary.

These guys will each get a chance this year whether that happens in practice or in games. Eveningnews I believe what you are saying, and I understand why you wouldn't throw the coach under the bus. It probably wasn't a very wise comment for him to be making. I would hope the starter is determined by performance and performance only.
 
Eda said:
Jake Christiasen says hai.
Thanks for adding to the conversation.
Bye bye then.
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Nice to see 13 year old girls are posting on HN now, thats good for advertising.

To the post, if the standard for being yanked is Jake Christensen and considering how long he was allowed to fester, it makes my point stronger.
 
From my very limited viewing of their play in the two open practices it looks like Rudock's main advantage is that he has a better command of the offense. He throws a accurate pass without a lot of heat on it. You wonder how that will work against quality defenses in conference play. I honestly am not sure either way.

Personally, I'd like to see Sokol win it simply to have someone with more athleticism that can take off when things break down and be effective in the zone-read.
 
hawkinn3 said:
Nice to see 13 year old girls are posting on HN now, thats good for advertising.

To the post, if the standard for being yanked is Jake Christensen and considering how long he was allowed to fester, it makes my point stronger.
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JC was awful in 2007, nobody is going to argue that. Who should KF have replaced him with in 2007 though?

Rick Stanzi as a RS Freshman? Not even close to being ready.

Arvell Nelson? lulz

JC and Stanzi shared snaps very early in the 2008 season and Stanzi was the full time starter when conference play began.

You have no point really.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
Wow...every once in a while I like to read about the absurd beliefs and views of others as it helps me to understand that everyones reality really is different. This thread accomplishes that for me. We are going to give Rudock the job, but boy we are really wanting Beathard to take over at or around game five. We are going to work to get him ready by then...the five games of taking 3rd string reps should be just about right. Impressive thinking and interpretation of a coaches comments most likely taken out of context.

In the spring game, I saw Rudock throw a 7 yard out almost completely across the field. It was on time and was a frozen rope. That was all I needed to know about his arm strength which was a major question mark. If he's the most cerebral, has leadership skills, and can place the ball like that, he wins the job and he wins it early in camp. I thought Sokol was solid too, I just think Rudock's command of the offense and upside (3 full years to go) most likely play into the decision also.
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So basically your opinion is based on a 7 yard throw that you thought looked good. Maybe that's the same criteria that KF uses but still Sokol had much better stats in the spring game. Personally I thought Sokol looked the best and the stats seem to back it up.
 
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