The best passing QB tonight
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DDThompson
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Think of how many thousands of dollars he wastes to sit on the 50 yd line to be unhappy with every player, coach, and game.:max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/GettyImages-200218805-005-589296c05f9b5874ee242b38.jpg)
HawkeyeDenis
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looked like a workman like effort from Nate Stanley. Some positive moments, nothing real bad.
Bit of a concern tho. Iowa has (for a change) a solid receiving corps, man for man better than Miami of Ohio yet a freshman out performs the most senior QB in the B1G.
Bit of a concern tho. Iowa has (for a change) a solid receiving corps, man for man better than Miami of Ohio yet a freshman out performs the most senior QB in the B1G.
GesterHawk
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In what way did Gabbert outperform Stanley? Not in stats, scores, or the win column... How?
tweeterhawk
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With a couple exceptions Gabbert’s throws had zip, timing and were on the money. He made good reads. He’s only a freshman but comes from a family of QBs. Imagine how effective he would be behind Iowa’s o-line and current crop of receivers.
That said, I’m not sure Iowa’s HC or his son would have the courage or the inclination to have him throw long balls downfield.
Gabbert will be special as a junior or senior.
SpiderRico
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Every fucking QB in the country misses throws or misses a guy breaking open. Hell, Trevor Lawrence threw two int’s against one of the shittiest P5 teams.
I know this much, Stanley is only the 2nd 3-time captain in the Ferentz era (Josey being the other), so his teammates think he’s a helluva leader...he’s on track to beat an Iowa record that hasn’t been close to being touched in 35 years....he’s on track to be only the 2nd QB in B1G history to throw for 25 tds in 3 straight years (Brees being the only other one)....he’s only the 3rd QB at Iowa to beat OSU in nearly 3 decades.
The guy ain’t perfect, but he’s one of the best to ever play here. If he can win a division or conference title...I think he’ll go down as a top 5 QB to ever put on an Iowa uniform.
I know this much, Stanley is only the 2nd 3-time captain in the Ferentz era (Josey being the other), so his teammates think he’s a helluva leader...he’s on track to beat an Iowa record that hasn’t been close to being touched in 35 years....he’s on track to be only the 2nd QB in B1G history to throw for 25 tds in 3 straight years (Brees being the only other one)....he’s only the 3rd QB at Iowa to beat OSU in nearly 3 decades.
The guy ain’t perfect, but he’s one of the best to ever play here. If he can win a division or conference title...I think he’ll go down as a top 5 QB to ever put on an Iowa uniform.
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I agree, he played a pretty good game, made some nice passes, missed others.
In terms of his NFL future he has size, strength, arm, experience, leadership.
Two of his weaknesses to me are his inaccuracy and his tendency to panic under duress. I am not sure if those two weaknesses can be overcome with top level coaching. Hopefully so. Or are they just you have it or you don't?
Just wondering, opinions?
Hopefully he has a great year and beats Wisconsin and Northwestern.
I think you correctly identify Stanley's two areas which need improvement over last year. I'm reminded of 49ers Coach Walsh, known as a QB whisperer, being asked what are the 3 most important traits a QB must possess, and without hesitation he identified the #1 trait as "Accuracy" -- quickly adding that's something he's discovered cannot be taught or coached up. When you think about it, he's probably correct: neither Montana nor Brees nor Brady are the tallest, or have the strongest arm, but man, those dudes put the ball precisely where they want it.
vork22
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I don’t get the hating on Nate. Do you know how rare it is for an Iowa QB to throw for over 250 yards and have 3 or more TDs? Before Nate Stanley it hadn’t happened since 2011. That, you can argue is a sad stat but nothing about Nate’s total performance is deserving of so much criticism.
I thought he had a pretty good game, looked more engaged, aware, had a couple of nice floater TD passes. Analyzing his performance is what fans do and the coaches do even more of it.
In my observation Nate, although talented, seems to be a very mechanical QB. Perhaps this is how Kirk and staff coach them. It is "safer" that way but individual skills, demonstrated on the fly, (and encouraged by a supportive staff) is what makes teams great, striving for above average.
I think the accuracy issue is big. And it seems to me more a part of a QB's DNA or not. Perhaps it is similar to MLB scouts and draft teams who think that a quality pitcher can either "spin it" or not.
He throws the fade in the end zone well, but other than that his accuracy is bad. More often than not the receiver has to slow down/adjust his route to catch the ball. A qb at this level that is supposedly going to get drafted should be able to put the ball on target so the receiver can catch in stride and run. 7 completions he had were at or behind the line of scrimmage. That defense is nothing like he will see in conference play. Until he proves he can throw beyond 10 yards with accuracy, teams will put everyone in the box and stuff our run. The loss of Fant and Hock was huge.
Iowa had the 18th lowest opponent's QB rating last year (I believe 11th best in P5).
Why do people keep saying things that have absolutely no basis in fact?
I assume you are talking about this one?
Ball is thrown just off the break, Ragaini doesn't rea;y break stride at all, and he is not caught from behind, but rather the deep safety gets over to make a play on Ragaini at the 5. There was not much to criticize on that throw.
Don't trust me, read HawkeyeGamefilm's breakdown of the game (he evaluates football talent professionally):
https://twitter.com/hawkeyegamefilm
Sometimes when the ball seems a bit off, it is not on Stanley. Take the 1st half throw behind Tracy. Stanley was throwing to a hole in the zone, Tracy kept running into the defender. Had Stanley led him, he would have had his head taken off or there would have been an INT. Stanley placed the ball perfectly, the WR didn't read it right (that actually happened a fair amount with Fant last year, as an aside).
The 4th down "go" to Ragaini was a case of the WR not getting back on his stem and getting his head around to the ball soon enough.
He missed some throws. The 1st half "go" to Smith was just a bit off. I thought he put too much air on the 1st EZ fade to Smith (he corrected on the next one). He missed a screen to Sargent.
So with 30 passes, he was off on a couple. Pretty good overall.
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JoeyLabasForPresident
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12th (Notre Dame is an independent obviously, but you gotta count them as a P5 program here).
tweeterhawk
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Consider the opponent. He’s not going to put up those numbers against anyone else in the B1G West or the Clowns.
tweeterhawk
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That’s the one. Look again if you don’t think Ragaini had to slow up and reach behind to catch it. A better ball would have had a tighter spiral and been just over the receiver’s shoulder.
Nate was bailed out by an out of position defender who couldn’t catch up.
It was a nice gain. Should have been 6.
