Story: Coaches on Recruiting Trail, Watching TN RB
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This staff is just clueless
Yeah. Apparently if you break other coaches 'trust' it is ok. just not theirs. So stupid and childish.
deanvogs
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Listen to the HawkeyeReport podcast.
RobHowe
Administrator
Jon and I talked about the difference in the policies on our podcast Monday night.
http://hawkeyenation.com/recruiting/hn-podcast-miller-howe-talk-recruiting-eno
http://hawkeyenation.com/recruiting/hn-podcast-miller-howe-talk-recruiting-eno
deanvogs
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The Iowa coaches aren't responsible for other schools recruiting. Other schools are begging our verbals to visit and we are begging other schools verbals to visit.
deanvogs
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Also nearly every other schools not named Alabama and Ohio St. ask and pressure their verbals to NOT visit other schools. How stupid would a school have to be to actually willing let them visit other schools? I mean seriously think about that for a second. Kid calls up KF and say, ya know what I was thinking I wanted to take a trip to ASU this weekend to check out that school. KF say, not problem and hangs up, we will still be here waiting for you if you don't like that trip. That is what you guys think is "good recruiting strategy"? LOL man, you guys crack me up.
Care to summarize? We have no problem poaching from other schools but we won't let our recruits visit other schools without pulling offers? Doesn't make sense to me and I don't care if it was because Eno didn't tell them, you take your chances on a player like him
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
You're missing the point, again.
deanvogs
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Then why would I waste my time telling you anything? Your mind is made up, Eno can say and do anything and the coaches should overlook it. I think more like Pat Angerer and Julian Vandervelde (and no I'm not going to summarize their thoughts on it either).
deanvogs
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He is, and so is Ed Orgeron evidently......
I don't think Ferentz is asking these kids he's trying to poach how must trust they have in their relationship with their current committed coach. So it's ok for those kids to not be trustworthy but we have huge RB recruit committed to us and if he's not 100% trustworthy to us we tell him to get lost
kicker22
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Versus not allowing them to go? again there's no certainty the recruit is invested whatsoever in the other school and could be in it for who knows what reason. So your recruiting strategy has a kid that may still be 100% committed to your program, but unwilling to agree not to go on official visits, get his scholarship revoked giving him a 100% chance of not joining the program as opposed to letting them go with a possibility they may swing change their mind.
Just my opinion but to me a strategy that ends in a zero probability of getting a recruit that thinks a policy is ridiculous to come to campus isn't a very good strategy. I'd take my chances with letting a kid be a kid in the hopes that he still agrees to sign in the spring.
But then again I'm pretty sure that same policy says IIRC, that once the player verbally commits the coach will no longer offer any other scholarships to any players at that position. So coach sees nothing wrong with telling the player he can't go on any more visits, but has no problem continuing to recruit players at the same position but he just won't offer. They're both shopping either way at that point.
Two conflicting opinions, but IMO a flawed recruiting strategy.
Edit: I should add that neither party has to be happy about it. It is what it is.
deanvogs
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I'm the only one who can see the point.
You and I just differ on acceptable behavior. I think the coaches were reasonable when they gave Eno a second chance after the Missouri visit and subsequent misleading about it. The coaches were ok with giving him a second chance, they understand that kids make mistake. Yet when he does it again, just a few weeks later, and the subsequent misleading yet again, where do you draw the line? Obviously you and 56 and other feel it is ok to give special treatment to Eno because he is a "life changing" recruit......Others like me feel that is what leads to toxic environments like Penn St. and Baylor where it foster the attitude of "just look the other way".
deanvogs
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So he banned you?
Let me say again, Rob was reporting all was well between the Staff and Eno. Kakart was reporting all was NOT well with Eno and the staff. Who had the actual story in this instance?
