Section136
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I never said Fran was never going to go deeper than 9. Certain games and situations will require minutes from Gabe. More times than not though, he will not be in the rotation for the B1G schedule.
Sonnen vs. Olaseni (Stormin' vs. Herby)
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I never said Fran was never going to go deeper than 9. Certain games and situations will require minutes from Gabe. More times than not though, he will not be in the rotation for the B1G schedule.
Exactly what I was going for.
jacknicholson
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May and Gesell played tough defense on the Lad also, Woody......
woodyk1
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Absolutely. Good point, Jack.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
I wasn't going to weigh in, but the potshot from herby sucked me in.
The bottom line is Devyn Marble won the game for Iowa, with help from Mike Gesell. Those two were clearly the Players of the Game for Iowa.
herby, you were the one that brought up Gabe being the reason Iowa stretched their lead. Now while I think Gabe did a decent job at times (occasionally he looked out of place, esp on the offensive side of the ball), there were other factors why UNI allowed Iowa to creep ahead. Sonnen picked up his 2nd foul with the score Iowa 19, UNI 17. (Mind you, Gabe had already been in the game before this happened and the gap actually closed in his first possession in the game.) The game was close early on due to the fact that UNI had caused several Iowa turnovers (backcourt pressure that Sonnen was involved in). In the 3 minutes and 33 seconds after Sonnen went to the bench w/ 2 fouls, Iowa outscored UNI 12-3. 6 of those 12 points were via two treys from Devyn Marble (someone who was being guarded previously by... anyone? anyone? Marc Sonnen). UNI is a team that averages a hefty 8.4 3 pt FGs per game. Anyone care to guess who makes the majority of UNI's 3 pt FGs (and this by a wide margin) - yup, Marc Sonnen. He had made 25 of the team's 76 treys on the year (almost 1/3 by my math in the head skills) before this game. So UNI lost their senior guard when it was a 2 pt game. Their best 3 pt shooter. One of their best on-ball defenders. In just over 200 game time seconds of his absence, that lead was up to 11 pts.
Here's the thing. It's ok to admit that you are wrong. It's not a sign of weakness. Trust me, I know from experience.
Section136
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Spank with teh pwnage.
When I first read herby's original comment, I took it as a shot at the people who say Gabe will never be more then a garbage time player. It was more of a "Gabe obviously held is own since we increased our lead" then a "Gabe was the reason we extended the lead". Not sure if I agree, but I understand the logic. God help me I just said I understood Herby's logic.
ssckelley
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Come on spank, you and I have both been around this forum long enough to know this will never happen. You can prove to herby beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is wrong and he will never, ever, admit he is wrong. He will wait until something happens that favors his point, even something minuscule, and he will come back on here blasting all of us with it. It happens over, over, and over people like that cannot accept they are ever wrong in anything.
Some times I wonder by the way he lashes out at people if he does not have "real life" issues.
I am not wrong, Gabe came in the team did not lose the lead, the team increased the lead. Gabe does not hurt this team when he plays and is not a garbage only player that comes in when the game is well in hand.
coming in with just as 2 point lead proves that, and that is what bugs a lot of you and escpecially spank!
coming in with just as 2 point lead proves that, and that is what bugs a lot of you and escpecially spank!
Hawkeye11en1
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I don't WANT to call you a moron. I really don't.
ssckelley
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puhleez, redhawk has more basketball knowledge than all of us put together.
herby, again, when will be starting your own blog? They are not very expensive, I am sure a few of us would be willing to chip in.
Hawkeye11en1
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Don't tease me.
deanvogs
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Ok, everyone knows you think if Gabe does well it proves some point that you saw something in Gabe, that nobody else did......
Gabe played well on Saturday and like the other players that made it into the game they were ALL integral to the win.
Sorry to say, Gabe wasn't "the difference maker". If he was, please explain why Gabe was pulled from the game after getting absolutely scorched by Tuttle on a great spin move and up and under layin and the foul. Gabe was instantly pull, and that score brought the game to within 4 pts at 55 to 59 with 8:02 to play.
Nobody is bashing Gabe by saying he played a great game, but he wasn't the difference maker....that is only in your mind. Hopefully Gabe can keep contributing key minutes throughout the Big10 season, as it will make this team that much better.
ssckelley
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Hawkeye11en1
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What do you feel a solid contributor is? And please keep it to 3 pages or less. TIA.
If you think it is by being:
10th in minutes
10th in scoring
13th in assists
T-7th in rebounds
and your best stat
2nd in blocks
=
solid contributor? Then yes, you have won your argument. Congratulations.
storminspank
Justin VanLaere
Are you sure the lead was 2 points when Gabe checked in? Might want to think about that statement again.
I'll give you a chance to double-check your facts. Because I'm nice like that. I really am a nice guy, I think.
On a side note - why are trying to make people dislike Gabe? He's a tremendous person, a hard worker, and an asset to the Iowa program. With the way you go about things, you only bring out negative reactions towards Gabe. I would ask that you stop that, as well. We don't need that sort of stuff on here. That's called pot-stirring and trolling.
