So they are giving into Ohio St and changing the rules

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Big Ten changes rules to allow No. 4 Ohio State to play in championship game

Ohio State had its third game of the season canceled earlier this week. Now the Big Ten will waive its six-game minimum.
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It could be argued both ways, but it is not fair to the rest of the league (especially Iowa) who has played all of their games if you ask me. Not even fair to Nebraska who tried to get another game on their schedule. This is all about getting them in the best position to be in the playoff.

Maybe they are scared of playing Iowa and hurting their chances....LOL. Kind of a joke there.
 
It isn't fair at all. You could argue the team with the biggest beef is Wisconsin. If they knew they were still eligible for the championship game, maybe they play a little better against Indiana last weekend.

While Ohio State appears to be the best team in the league, they don't look demonstrably better than IU (beat by 7), NW, Iowa, or Wisconsin. Yet the national media's narrative is they would have rolled the table against anyone they played in the league.

Incredibly irritating.
 
HaydenHawk56 said:
sports.yahoo.com

Big Ten changes rules to allow No. 4 Ohio State to play in championship game

Ohio State had its third game of the season canceled earlier this week. Now the Big Ten will waive its six-game minimum.
sports.yahoo.com sports.yahoo.com

It could be argued both ways, but it is not fair to the rest of the league (especially Iowa) who has played all of their games if you ask me. Not even fair to Nebraska who tried to get another game on their schedule. This is all about getting them in the best position to be in the playoff.

Maybe they are scared of playing Iowa and hurting their chances....LOL. Kind of a joke there.
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Total bullshit to Indiana. Had OSU fallen victim solely to other team cancellations I can see bending the rule for them. They didn't. They canceled the Illinois game.

I suspect GarBar had his finger on the scale because he is on the committee and because he doesn't want to end the year on a 70-3 blowout (assuming Iowa beats Wisconsin) while OSU tries to score style points. I get it. He's put in a position with a big conflict by this whole thing.

The conference thought they were leaders and that everyone would bow down to the Mighty Big Ten when they cancelled. Biggest tactical mistake in college sports history.
 
Come on...if Iowa was 5-0 and we had three cancellations, two of which were due to other teams...we'd be screaming bloody murder if they allowed a team we had just beaten to take our place in the championship. It was the right thing to do. It would have been different if Indiana and OSU hadn't played and Indiana was undefeated or possibly had one loss to a top team in the West...then Indiana may have had an argument.
 
HawkPrdatr40 said:
I despise Ohio State but this is right thing to do. And please Explain how it’s Bullshit to Indiana? Ohio State beat them.
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It's bullshit because it's an ad hoc rule change months after the teams established parameters for determining the conference champion that everyone agreed on. OSU has had top 5 teams lose to mediocre Illinois teams before. OSU is missing a rivalry game, where strange things can happen. OSU missed Maryland, who behind Tua's little brother is spotty, but can play up. Five games is a joke of a run to declare a division champion. I hope OSU gets left out of the playoff for failing to play enough games and Iowa State gets in.
 
Doesn't matter. This is an asterisk season anyway.

Any winner of anything this year will forever be labeled as an abomination.
 
Seth53 said:
Doesn't matter. This is an asterisk season anyway.

Any winner of anything this year will forever be labeled as an abomination.
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I know, which is all the more reason to let Indiana or Northwestern be the damned conference champ because it ain't gonna happen otherwise.
 
Have no problem with OSU representing the BIG. Seems like a no brainer to me. Would rather watch the BIG send a rep to the playoffs than not. Would bother me more so if OSU had to stay home as the only undefeated team in the conference.

So what are the rules if one of the playoff teams get the virus a week prior to the playoffs?

Now that IN has ceased team activities due to the virus what happens if they can't make the BIG tourney game vs their opponent (perhaps Iowa)?
 
ohhawk said:
Have no problem with OSU representing the BIG. Seems like a no brainer to me. Would rather watch the BIG send a rep to the playoffs than not. Would bother me more so if OSU had to stay home as the only undefeated team in the conference.

So what are the rules if one of the playoff teams get the virus a week prior to the playoffs?

Now that IN has ceased team activities due to the virus what happens if they can't make the BIG tourney game vs their opponent (perhaps Iowa)?
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Here's the problem, though. The committee has established that a team need not be a conference champ in order to make the playoffs. They did it with OSU the year that PSU beat them and PSU won the B1G. They did it with Bama the year we lost to Auburn in the Iron Bowl and then Auburn went on to shit the bed against the Dawgs in the SEC title game. To say that beating the piss out of Northwestern on December 19 is the determining factor of whether or not OSU is worthy of a shot at the title is the most absurd thing I've ever heard.
 
ohhawk said:
Have no problem with OSU representing the BIG. Seems like a no brainer to me. Would rather watch the BIG send a rep to the playoffs than not. Would bother me more so if OSU had to stay home as the only undefeated team in the conference.

So what are the rules if one of the playoff teams get the virus a week prior to the playoffs?

Now that IN has ceased team activities due to the virus what happens if they can't make the BIG tourney game vs their opponent (perhaps Iowa)?
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I don't think it would be shocking to see the Big Ten cancel every "champions weekend" game other than OSU vs NW given the general rise in cases.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Here's the problem, though. The committee has established that a team need not be a conference champ in order to make the playoffs. They did it with OSU the year that PSU beat them and PSU won the B1G. They did it with Bama the year we lost to Auburn in the Iron Bowl and then Auburn went on to shit the bed against the Dawgs in the SEC title game. To say that beating the piss out of Northwestern on December 19 is the determining factor of whether or not OSU is worthy of a shot at the title is the most absurd thing I've ever heard.
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Sorry but don't see the merit in your argument. Who do you want to replace OSU? They've beat every team they've played.........what more do you want them to do? Someone I've missed look better than OSU in the BIG?
 
okeefe4prez said:
Total bullshit to Indiana. Had OSU fallen victim solely to other team cancellations I can see bending the rule for them. They didn't. They canceled the Illinois game.

I suspect GarBar had his finger on the scale because he is on the committee and because he doesn't want to end the year on a 70-3 blowout (assuming Iowa beats Wisconsin) while OSU tries to score style points. I get it. He's put in a position with a big conflict by this whole thing.

The conference thought they were leaders and that everyone would bow down to the Mighty Big Ten when they cancelled. Biggest tactical mistake in college sports history.
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Yep. August 10th or 11th, whatever that date was to shut it down became the date the SEC decided to push forward. Big Ten should have been in back pedal mode and started playing games at the end of September.

Hindsight? Not really, it is just about reading the landscape.
 
You know what, I think Northwestern is a complete joke, but I will rooting for them hard now. Ohio St has not earned that game relative to the rules that were set forth to start the year. Completely unfair to the other Big Ten members.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Total bullshit to Indiana. Had OSU fallen victim solely to other team cancellations I can see bending the rule for them. They didn't. They canceled the Illinois game.

I suspect GarBar had his finger on the scale because he is on the committee and because he doesn't want to end the year on a 70-3 blowout (assuming Iowa beats Wisconsin) while OSU tries to score style points. I get it. He's put in a position with a big conflict by this whole thing.

The conference thought they were leaders and that everyone would bow down to the Mighty Big Ten when they cancelled. Biggest tactical mistake in college sports history.
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I still can't reason why there's even a committee?
 
okeefe4prez said:
It's bullshit because it's an ad hoc rule change months after the teams established parameters for determining the conference champion that everyone agreed on. OSU has had top 5 teams lose to mediocre Illinois teams before. OSU is missing a rivalry game, where strange things can happen. OSU missed Maryland, who behind Tua's little brother is spotty, but can play up. Five games is a joke of a run to declare a division champion. I hope OSU gets left out of the playoff for failing to play enough games and Iowa State gets in.
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Ad hoc, that is interesting way of looking at it since the whole last minute league throwing together a plan to play in Oct. was pretty ad hoc.

The friends I have talked to agree with me that the 'better rule' initially would have been "if your team fails to meet playing standards for at least X games then you cannot qualify for the Big Champ Game". Most of us thought it was bad to penalize a team who might be 5-0 but let's say missed 3 games yet they were safe and ready to play.

LIsten, I have been tired of the OSU juggernaut since the later 1950's because just not good for a team or two to dominate a league like OU and Nebraska also did in the old Big 8. But I pull for OSU in a bowl game. I think the logic in the statement today is true that even if OSU was upset by Mich, hahahahahahahah, let me say that again hahahahahahaha, they who win the East , which is another stipulation that the Frames of These Rules should have thought as an alternative.

As you OK4P and others have said the Big Office and the schools really screwed this one up.
 
HaydenHawk56 said:
You know what, I think Northwestern is a complete joke, but I will rooting for them hard now. Ohio St has not earned that game relative to the rules that were set forth to start the year. Completely unfair to the other Big Ten members.
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Well I agree that Fitzy wins win smoke and mirrors in the form of just great fundamental football when he has the roster loaded with experienced players.

Remember last year they were shit at QB all year and this year they get the Russell Wilson Bailout transfer of the year with Peyton Ramsey.

This decision only affects Indiana not really jNW as they play whoever they are told to play.
 
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