Sidebar: Why is Phil Parker so bad?

BSpringsteen

BSpringsteen

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He coaches defensive backs, which as a unit, has been consistently one of our strongest units, putting player after player into the NFL. These are in large part, also players that have developed into NFL talents, not come into Iowa City as one.

Secondly, just because he ran the NP defense when he was a sub, doesn't mean that he would do the exact same thing if the job was his.

Thirdly, for people clamoring for new blood - it is still KF that signs off on the gameplan.

Fourth - we are getting new coaches regardless. Darrell Wilson is going to go when he's not named DC. You're looking at two new coaches. More if Reese Morgan retires.

Personally, I want to see Ron Aiken, and I think that is a stronger choice.

but I am not ready to throw Phil Parker under the bus for no reason.

The only thing he is guilty of is being on Kirk's coaching staff.

A new DC isn't going to come in and run Blittsburgh any more than a new OC is going to come in and run the Run & Shoot.
 
he isnt bad. ive noticed that its a certain type of hawk fan that would be upset with his hire and its the same one who thinks that we need to pass every down, blitz every down, and every call KOK makes is wrong.

sure, it may be an internal hire, but having a new DC who can recruit and bringing levar woods into a recruiting role is a not a minor change.
 
People assuming it's Parker over Wilson I think is a little premature. Wilson was calling the plays for the D last year during Norms absence, I think that's enough for me not to assume Parker over Wilson. It seems everyone just assuming Parker over wilson, because he's got couple more years over him.
 
BSpringsteen said:
He coaches defensive backs, which as a unit, has been consistently one of our strongest units, putting player after player into the NFL. These are in large part, also players that have developed into NFL talents, not come into Iowa City as one.

Secondly, just because he ran the NP defense when he was a sub, doesn't mean that he would do the exact same thing if the job was his.

Thirdly, for people clamoring for new blood - it is still KF that signs off on the gameplan.

Fourth - we are getting new coaches regardless. Darrell Wilson is going to go when he's not named DC. You're looking at two new coaches. More if Reese Morgan retires.

Personally, I want to see Ron Aiken, and I think that is a stronger choice.

but I am not ready to throw Phil Parker under the bus for no reason.

The only thing he is guilty of is being on Kirk's coaching staff.

A new DC isn't going to come in and run Blittsburgh any more than a new OC is going to come in and run the Run & Shoot.
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I don't think he did too bad at all when he was the interim DC. Just because the scheme may remain the same doesn't mean the play calling will. I'd like to think there will be a little more nickel coverage against the spread and probably more blitzing than Norm ever did (that isn't to say there will be a lot). I wouldn't be disappointed at all if he gets the job.
 
9YRPLAN said:
he isnt bad. ive noticed that its a certain type of hawk fan that would be upset with his hire and its the same one who thinks that we need to pass every down, blitz every down, and every call KOK makes is wrong.

sure, it may be an internal hire, but having a new DC who can recruit and bringing levar woods into a recruiting role is a not a minor change.
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No, KOK is wrong 90% of the time. His play calling is an abomination, but the rest of your post is accurate, I would say.
 
I don't know that Phil Parker is bad. But I think most Hawk fans are looking for some fresh life being breathed into this program.
Maybe Phil could do that.
 
I don't think it's so much that people think he's bad. This is just coming at a time when at least some fans (and a large segment on this site) feel that perhaps things are getting a little stale, and an internal hire does little to change that/change the perception.

We could have a (in his prime) Monte Kiffin on staff, and people would be ****** if he got the DC job.

I'm okay with Parker, or Wilson. Though I would like to see us get Aiken back.
 
First of all defense has by far been the strength of our program since KF has been here and that is because of Norm. Phil has played for Norm and coached with him for a total of about 20 years. If you hire Phil you get Norm's defense with whatever adjustments Phil thinks is necessary to improve. Also, if you hire Phil you get Norm only 25 years younger. The only part of our program that needs major improvements is the offense and that is not necessarily all KOK's fault. There is more talent on the defensive side of the ball, especially D-line and linebackers in the state of Iowa and surrounding areas in the midwest than there is talent at the skilled positions on offense.
 
1hawkeye1 said:
I don't know that Phil Parker is bad. But I think most Hawk fans are looking for some fresh life being breathed into this program.
Maybe Phil could do that.
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This, tired of the same ol crap that doesn't work.

Get some new life, some excitement, a reason to be hopeful again.
 
I would be a fan of the Parker hire. I thought while he and Wilson were in charge last season that they made some very good in game adjustments. He is a great recruiter and like others have pointed out develops NFL players.

I think BS makes a solid point about Phil adjusting schemes. We should not automatically assume that Phil will call a version of quarters every play. Being younger and gradually taking on more responsibility may make him a slightly more aggressive coach.
 
I would be a fan of the Parker hire. I thought while he and Wilson were in charge last season that they made some very good in game adjustments. He is a great recruiter and like others have pointed out develops NFL players.

I think BS makes a solid point about Phil adjusting schemes. We should not automatically assume that Phil will call a version of quarters every play. Being younger and gradually taking on more responsibility may make him a slightly more aggressive coach.
 
I'm glad i read this thread. I was not going to be happy at all with an house hire but this definitely makes me feel a little better about it
 
Phil will be fine with me. He was a great player and is good at developing players. Last year's D stats are actually pretty good overall, just need to clean up those third downs! He learned a lot from Norm and may have a few ideas of his own.
 
You know, Parker and Wilson shared DC responsibilities last year, and as has been mentioned, they seemed to work together pretty well. Staff continuity is a real pro for Iowa and from what I hear, they all get along really well. They shared it last year, I say they share it again: make them co-DC's. It's pretty common these days and they have rapport and experience gameplanning together.
 
Could we have co-defensive coordinators? Seems not Kirks' style but it would avoid ruffled feathers within existing staff perhaps?
 
My ONLY problem with a Phil Parker hire is that you are going a different direction than you did when you took the job originally. I believe that the most important and as it turns out best hire he made in putting together his original staff was the hiring of Norm Parker. At the time Norm was an experienced defensive coordinator. He had coached at a lot of different places and was successful previously.

If you hire Phil Parker you won't be getting anywhere near the same level of experience from someone who has been responsible for coordinating a defense. Of course you aren't likely going to find another Norm Parker but somewhere between Phil Parker and Norm Parker there has to be an experienced, high quality, sought after current defensive coordinator who would jump at the chance to work for a man like Kirk Ferentz.

Lastly, Ferentz has already shown no desire to hold coaches accountable for the relative "failures" of their respective positions (see KOK's offenses statistically). The fact that Iowa's program had the success in the last 10 years was overwhelmingly due to the success of the defense. The likelihood that an on-the-job trainee (in Phil Parker) will be able to match or exceed Norm Parker's defenses is unlikely. And without significant improvement in the offensive production and I don't see it changing anytime soon with KOK on board, Iowa may be heading into a mini dark ages of sort. Be prepared for defenses that rank comparably nationally to that of Iowa's offenses in the last 10 years. And that is a not a good thing.

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I just don't think anyone in the country can run this style of defense. Norm understood how it works. How it doesn't. Every percentage in every situation. Norm was a great defensive mind. Too many fans had their heads in the sand about this defense late in games. Norm was a hidden gem. He was Bob Sanders as a defensive mind.

I think if Phil takes over, I hope he runs the style the HE feels suits him. I hope that he does NOT try to be his dad but step into his own future. Success or Failure. Anything is possible. He's at least earned a chance.
 
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