SI college sports crime...Iowa 2nd

[ISUhawk]

Pretty interesting...

SI/CBS News special investigation into college football, crime - The Bonus - SI.com

 

[latrans]

Interesting in the fact that the information has been intentionally presented in such a way so as to make the situation look worse than it is.

 

[DexterMorgan]

TCU was the only Top 25 teams with 0 players with criminal background. I was completely shocked by this.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Does that include this year? That accounts for about half of those 18

 

[trj]

Interesting in the fact that the information has been intentionally presented in such a way so as to make the situation look worse than it is.

It is still not good.....I just skimmed through the article, did not read it I did not see anything on graduation rates or breakdown of type of criminal charges which would put Iowa in a better light.

That said I am not going Steve Deace with the "something is fundamentally wrong" argument, but the sheer numbers make you cringe.

 

[Wassabbe]

Thank god for Pittsburgh!! Doesn't look good however you look at it

 

[DuffMan]

I wonder how many are simple alcohol offenses (public intox or MIP type stuff).

 

[LG210]

To the extent this information is used to draw a conclusion regarding the overall character of a team, it is deeply flawed.

Different communities police their student populations with varying degrees of vigor and with varying protocol. I believe that Iowa City polices its student population with more vigor than most communities and its protocol is not to give warnings. I'm sure some communities' policing efforts even turn a blind eye when athletes are involved. Iowa City is not one of those places.

 

[DexterMorgan]

it would be nice if you could click on the team and it would show a breakdown of the offenses.

 

[trj]

I wonder how many are simple alcohol offenses (public intox or MIP type stuff).

Too lazy to do the research, but I would bet at least half were.

 

[Wassabbe]

To the extent this information is used to draw a conclusion regarding the overall character of a team, it is deeply flawed.

Different communities police their student populations with varying degrees of vigor and with varying protocol. I believe that Iowa City polices its student population with more vigor than most communities and its protocol is not to give warnings. I'm sure some communities' policing efforts even turn a blind eye when athletes are involved. Iowa City is not one of those places.

It use to be back when I went there but it doesn't seem that way anymore does it?

 

[GravyJones]

I wonder how many are simple alcohol offenses (public intox or MIP type stuff).

That was my thought as well. The way the story starts, you would think they're talking about felons playing football. I'm not sure what point they're trying to make with that table showing the preseason rank.

 

[DexterMorgan]

That was my thought as well. The way the story starts, you would think they're talking about felons playing football. I'm not sure what point they're trying to make with that table showing the preseason rank.

They only looked at Programs that were preseason top 25.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

To the extent this information is used to draw a conclusion regarding the overall character of a team, it is deeply flawed.

Different communities police their student populations with varying degrees of vigor and with varying protocol. I believe that Iowa City polices its student population with more vigor than most communities and its protocol is not to give warnings. I'm sure some communities' policing efforts even turn a blind eye when athletes are involved. Iowa City is not one of those places.

Bingo. This could just as easily be spun into a story about how college athletes get away with stuff in most college towns. The Iowa City numbers are probably inflated by the frequent public intox and paula charges. Iowa City cops don't look the other way as easily.

 

[GravyJones]

They only looked at Programs that were preseason top 25.

Which is fine and dandy (and maybe my fault for not reading the entire article), but it appears at first glance as though they were trying to show a correlation.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Which is fine and dandy (and maybe my fault for not reading the entire article), but it appears at first glance as though they were trying to show a correlation.

I don't think that's the intention. Nor was the intention to single out a specific university. It is a piece on college football as a whole.

 

[GravyJones]

I don't think that's the intention. Nor was the intention to single out a specific university. It is a piece on college football as a whole.

I guess my whole point was, the preseason rank is a completely meaningless piece to add.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I guess my whole point was, the preseason rank is a completely meaningless piece to add.

I agree it's not needed in the table.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Players who would have been on last year's rosters but had been charged and expelled from their teams before Sept. 1 -- and there were dozens -- were not counted in our sample. Nor did SI and CBS News have access to juvenile arrest records for roughly 80 percent of the players in the study.

So that does include Arob and DJK.

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

I don't think that's the intention. Nor was the intention to single out a specific university. It is a piece on college football as a whole.

Not trying to say there isn't a problem that needs to be addressed here, but I wholeheartedly agree the Iowa City police very rarely give warnings and never miss an opportunity to make the arrest. They almost always charge you.

It's been a long, long time since I graduated, but two arrests in my four years in Iowa City, and none in the 20 years since. One was somewhat legit...stupid freshman antics with a drinking game, but the other was ridiculous at the hands of an overly zealous police officer, and they later dropped the charges.