Should Penn State accept bowl bid
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ssckelley
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I can go either way on this. The players are not at fault here but the way some of their fans & students have been acting it makes me sick every time I hear them chant "We Are Penn State" as I hear them chanting something else that I won't repeat. I really do not like seeing them associated in any way with the Big Ten.
silvanthalas
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Bradley has already said that they'll accept a bowl invitation.
They shouldn't get an invite in the first place.
They shouldn't get an invite in the first place.
briankaldenberg
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If they qualify they should get invited and they should accept. Bowls would absolutely love to get Penn State this year. The bowl game will get 4 times the amount of attention it would otherwise receive.
ssckelley
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I hate to say this but you are probably right and I have been thinking the same thing. One of those low end bowls will take Penn State just for the attention and it would still get good ratings.
ATLHawkeye
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I see the kids playing at Penn State as victims in this horrible mess, too. Not remotely on the same level as the real victims, but victims none the less.
Why make it worse for them by not accepting a bowl bid? I'm sure they'll get an invite, but I can't imagine that a sponsor would want them, and the cloud that hangs over them, associated with their bowl.
Why make it worse for them by not accepting a bowl bid? I'm sure they'll get an invite, but I can't imagine that a sponsor would want them, and the cloud that hangs over them, associated with their bowl.
briankaldenberg
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I don't think it's going to be a low end bowl either. I think Outback or Capital One.
ssckelley
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Are the top bowls obligated to taking these teams based on the amount of wins they have? The Big Ten used to have a rule where the bowls could not select a team that had 2 fewer wins than someone else. I know the lower bowls can take whoever they want but is that rule still in effect for the bigger bowls? If that is the case then I can see the Outback being forced to take Penn State if they had 2 more wins than the other teams remaining. Otherwise I think they will take a pass and go for a Ohio State, Nebraska, and even Iowa over PSU.
tweeterhawk
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Tough call here but I think they should accept. It likely will be a higher tier bowl; strongly doubt any bowl turns them down because of this scandal, although they should out of consideration for the victims. If there's a way the university can give the payout to a fund either for the victims or to local charities who work with sexual abuse victim, I think it should.
I add the italicized caveat because there may be issues about whether bowl proceeds could or should be intertwined with potential damages to Sundusky's victims, which may be paid from other funds and likely under guidelines set by the courts, insurers and the lawyers.
I add the italicized caveat because there may be issues about whether bowl proceeds could or should be intertwined with potential damages to Sundusky's victims, which may be paid from other funds and likely under guidelines set by the courts, insurers and the lawyers.
ThunderHawk
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How'd you like to be the bowl that has to offer them an invite?
Uh, Capital One Kids' Day will be suspended this year...
And the trophy has been changed. Thank God. AWKWARD!
Uh, Capital One Kids' Day will be suspended this year...
And the trophy has been changed. Thank God. AWKWARD!
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briankaldenberg
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How'd you like to be the bowl that has to offer them an invite?
Uh, Capital One Kids' Day will be suspended this year...
And the trophy has been changed. Thank God. AWKWARD!
You don't get it. 4 times the attention. Bowls aren't going to be forced to offer Penn State. They'll be fighting over who gets Penn State.
ThunderHawk
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That literally made me shoot snot out of my nose onto my monitor screen.
If I can't get it off (again, no pun intended) I'm sending you the bill to replace it.
Being forced to invite Pedo State to your bowl game ain't playing to win, Bri.
tweeterhawk
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I think we are in uncharted waters here. This is one of the biggest sports scandals ever, and it has turned attention to many significant issues: child sexual abuse, reporting it, institutional control, the fallibility of those at the very highest levels who had seemed infallible.
Amid all that and the fallout -- indictment of three individuals, departures of the country's winningest college football coach, the president of his university, the athletic director and a university vice president -- a football game was played in Happy Valley last weekend, and presumably the program will finish out the season.
This is Penn State football. I would expect some bowl and its local boosters will still want them and the tens of thousands of blue-and-white clad who travel with them. I think they'll be willing to gamble that the current stench will have worn off somewhat by the end of the year.
hawkeyebob62
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You do realize that B1G schools split bowl revenue? So even if PSU was in a BCS bowl, after travel/incidental expenses are taken off top, they split with the conference.
And THAT, of course, is why B1G will almost certainly make sure PSU accepts any bowl bid.
The question is whether they finish with 2 losses or 4.
ssckelley
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But with the possibility of having as many as 10 teams bowl eligible I do not think the Big Ten gets involved if PSU refuses a bowl bid.
briankaldenberg
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You're still struggling at grasping the concept. Penn State will be highly sought after this year by bowl committees. There will be no forcing.
ssckelley
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I seriously doubt that they will be "highly sought after" by the upper tier bowls. Which is why I am wondering if the upper tier bowls are allowed to pass on a 8/9 win PSU for a 6/7 win team like Iowa or Ohio State. Does anyone know if the Big Ten still has the 2 win rule?
