Shocking Story on Everson/Satterfield Trial

Anyone else wondering if DJK being in the doghouse had anything to do with this? I think I've read he was the one who disposed of a bloody mattress and condom.

Good grief. Did anybody learn from the embarassing situation that took place on Hawkeye message boards a few weeks ago? You know, when many Hawkeye football players were singled out as drug users only to later be proved not to be.

Think before you type.
 
Anyone else wondering if DJK being in the doghouse had anything to do with this? I think I've read he was the one who disposed of a bloody mattress and condom.

He got rid of those things when he moved into the room after this all happened. He had nothing to do with it, but then again you should know that if you read about it.
 
Anyone else wondering if DJK being in the doghouse had anything to do with this? I think I've read he was the one who disposed of a bloody mattress and condom.

If I remember correctly, DJK was Lance Tillison's roommate at the time. Which would mean it was his room in the first place. They apparently weren't living there very often, but they were told by Ferentz to move back into the room. DJK did the logical thing for someone in his position.
 
She was passed out when Everson was there, but his DNA was found. She was awake and semi-coherent for the rest.

Sorry, I only know what I read, and I missed the part about the DNA. I thought the only evidence on Everson was that he told other players.

My main beef is with Satterfield, who did rape her, as she was conscious for it, gets off with a plea bargain of NO JAIL TIME as he will talk about Everson. That is ridiculous.

Rape is a horrible crime, and think rapists should be castrated (yes it's harsh, but IMO deserved- disagree I know many of you will) but that is horrible, just as molesting a child (death penalty).
 
I can't believe that with that testimony, Satterfield was able to plead down to a misdemeanor and received no jail time. Something is not right.
 
I can't believe that with that testimony, Satterfield was able to plead down to a misdemeanor and received no jail time. Something is not right.

Him testifying that she was sleeping when Everson came in combined with Everson's DNA and testimony that he bragged about having sex with her is pretty damning to Everson. It wasn't an A Few Good Men moment, but it helps their case. Plus, I doubt they had enough evidence to get a conviction on Satterfield.
 
Him testifying that she was sleeping when Everson came in combined with Everson's DNA and testimony that he bragged about having sex with her is pretty damning to Everson. It wasn't an A Few Good Men moment, but it helps their case. Plus, I doubt they had enough evidence to get a conviction on Satterfield.

Except that then he backtracked and said he didn't know if she was sleeping or not. Pretty worthless deal made by the DA. They must not have thought they could get Satterfield. And w/o him, they couldn't get Everson.
 
Actually DJK did not throw away the mattress, he simply turned it over.

I actually blame the DM register for everyone thinking DJK disposed of evidence. I can't remember the exact headline but i thought it was very irresponsible reporting, and basically made it sound like DJK was involved.
 
wow.

makes you think about what Daniels said regarding her being overly friendly to everyone as a reason he steered clear of her.

It certainly helps to understand why the prosecution may have been so willing to give Satterfield a deal. Even if he did rape her, there's enough reasonable doubt around Satterfield. I don't see as much doubt with Everson so far.
 
horrible story, but the young woman made some pretty stupid moves herself.
There was lots of hormones and youthful stupidity that night. Anyone who says she wasn't an idiot for getting drunk with horny young men and then voluntarily proceeding to an empty dorm "sex room" with 2 of them is him/herself an idiot. What did she think they were going to do? Read the Mormon bible and practice their proselytizing? The fact that she thought consensual oral sex = "I don't want to have intercourse" makes me think she has never heard of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. She may be a victim, but she showed terrible judgment that night.
 
There was lots of hormones and youthful stupidity that night. Anyone who says she wasn't an idiot for getting drunk with horny young men and then voluntarily proceeding to an empty dorm "sex room" with 2 of them is him/herself an idiot. What did she think they were going to do? Read the Mormon bible and practice their proselytizing? The fact that she thought consensual oral sex = "I don't want to have intercourse" makes me think she has never heard of Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. She may be a victim, but she showed terrible judgment that night.

isn't it at all possible she knew what was going to happen, and is why she went in?
 
Rape shield law will likely preclude defense from raising this issue at all. If she says she was a virgin, she was a virgin for purposes of the trial.

I missed that Pugh said she was still awake that someone pointed out above. This is going to be a hard case to prove and is going to come down to who the jurors think is more credible. This he said-she said stuff happens at colleges all the time. If I have a daughter, can anyone recommend an all girls college that won't allow men near the campus after 6 PM?

Interesting about the rape shield law. Question, though. Since it (from newspaper/web accounts) appears it was part of her testimony (again, not in court, so I don't know how accurately testimony is reported), is that not something defense could ask about under cross-examination?

Again, to all posters, I do NOT want to pass judgment on this case. But "offering" oral sex to preserve virginity sounds both incredulous AND incredibly sad.

Several stories have been documented in my area of young girls "giving oral sex" to preserve their virginity and/or to avoid STDs. Sadly, of course, it doesn't prevent the latter, and in the case of the former, I would imagine that, psychologically, some girls would still feel "conflicted".

Thus, I truly believe it could well have happened in this case. But it's scary to think any woman/girl would feel they HAVE to do this out of fear for safety/pride/conscience.

I hate to say this as a man but, some times, as a gender we really DO fall short.
 
isn't it at all possible she knew what was going to happen, and is why she went in?

It's possible. Especially when you consider this...

Daniels said he knew the victim but kept his distance because she was "was overly friendly with everybody."

Anybody care to explain what Daniels meant by "over friendly with everybody"?
 
I was thinking mistrial when Daniels made his comments. The judge can tell the jury to dismiss that all they want, but that comment is likely to stick in someones mind.
 
wow.

makes you think about what Daniels said regarding her being overly friendly to everyone as a reason he steered clear of her.

So, Satterfield already testified? And if THAT is what he said, I can't imagine the prosecution didn't use him as "hostile", although I may well be reading it out of context.

In one sense, if Satterfield really DOES think Everson raped her, good for him for testifying. On the other hand, it sounds like what other posters have said, the prosecution is willing to admit it isn't conclusive enough to say Satterfield committed "rape".

And the fact I am actually splitting hairs with these definitions makes me a tad queasy in and of itself.
 
I do NOT want to start a "firestorm" or sound insensitive to this, because...even if it WAS consensual...it was absolutely TERRIBLE behavior.

But...if I am a juror...this is NOT a slam-dunk case for me. Do I "believe" rape/sexual assault occurred? I tend to think so...but I can NOT honestly say that proof "beyond a reasonable doubt" has been submitted thus far, IMO..

You're completely right, especially when you take into account the testimony today of Mike Daniels. First he says he knew the woman but stayed away from her because she was "too friendly with people." Then add to that his responses below when questioned about the night of the assault:

Did the woman appear to be intoxicated? No
Slurring her words? No
Having trouble walking? No
Seem different than normal? No
 
hawkdrummer this ^ sums it up pretty well, and I'm sure most of us would agree with what you wrote.
And let me add something else to upset the politically correct Nazis. Many young white and black men glorify gangsta rap along with its creators. Those young men gravitate toward warped values and behaviors. And those young men have millions of enablers in all those American citizens who falsely claim they never "JUDGE" anyone for their personal "TASTES".
 

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