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[Fryowa]

I don't mind if the coaches don't yell at the players because I will yell at them on twitter.

Tell your boy Hofher to apologize to that recruit already. It’s bad enough you brought in that J-Roc meth head Park, but when your own coaches start stepping on their dicks it’s time to do something. Next time you’re in Pollard’s office *wink wink* put a bug in his ear.

 

[Fryowa]

Iowa needs to be the one stepping up to Wisco.

I wish.

It’ll never happen as long as that jellyfish Farta is hand washing the Ferentz family’s underwear.

 

[hawkeyes87]

They’ve suffered the greatest fall in college sports other than one forms a scandal

I wouldn't go that far. What about their former conference mates from Austin?

Texas was #1 in 2005, #2 as recently as 2009. Look at them now.

And unlike Nebby, UT has every inherent advantage there is. Zero reason they should ever finish out of the top-25.

 

[Fryowa]

I wouldn't go that far. What about their former conference mates from Austin?

Texas was #1 in 2005, #2 as recently as 2009. Look at them now.

And unlike Nebby, UT has every inherent advantage there is. Zero reason they should ever finish out of the top-25.

Nebraska was much better and more consistent.

From '62 to '97 their worst record was 6-4 and that only happened twice. They went from '64 to '04 without a losing record; Texas had 7 losing seasons in that period and missed 15 bowl games vs Nebraska missing 2.

Texas fell, yes. But not nearly as hard as the self-inflicted toilet flush in Lincoln.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

If they’d have kept Solich instead of playing musical coaches they’d be right where Osborne was.

I love it.

I dunno about him being right where Osborne was so much. But he had program in a very stable place and for sure they wouldn't have fallen off the cliff like they did. Their impatience and unrealistic expectations burned em bad...

 

[Fryowa]

I dunno about him being right where Osborne was so much. But he had program in a very stable place and for sure they wouldn't have fallen off the cliff like they did. Their impatience and unrealistic expectations burned em bad...

The scholarship thing was really the only thing that hurt them initially, and as long as they kept winning (a la not firing Solich) they'd have stayed on top. Teams that win year after year recruit themselves.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Nebraska was much better and more consistent.

From '62 to '97 their worst record was 6-4 and that only happened twice. They went from '64 to '04 without a losing record; Texas had 7 losing seasons in that period and missed 15 bowl games vs Nebraska missing 2.

Texas fell, yes. But not nearly as hard as the self-inflicted toilet flush in Lincoln.

I agree with ya. My only take on Texas is how on earth could they have fallen that far and for any length of time? They just should not have. They have so many advantages that Nebraska and most schools don't have. They only have to recruit within 250 miles of campus pretty much to have a competitive program. Bad coaches should win 8-9 games a year there on accident in that conference. I know talent is being spread out more between the A&Ms and TCUs of the state among others but geez. I don't think they'd use that as an excuse because without looking it up I bet their recruiting classes are still all in the top 30 if not higher even during their downturn. Their downturn makes less sense than Nebraskas to me. It's been a combination of terrible terrible coaching and developing of players.

 

[Fryowa]

I agree with ya. My only take on Texas is how on earth could they have fallen that far and for any length of time? They just should not have. They have so many advantages that Nebraska and most schools don't have. They only have to recruit within 250 miles of campus pretty much to have a competitive program. Bad coaches should win 8-9 games a year there on accident in that conference. I know talent is being spread out more between the A&Ms and TCUs of the state among others but geez. I don't think they'd use that as an excuse because without looking it up I bet their recruiting classes are still all in the top 30 if not higher even during their downturn. Their downturn makes less sense than Nebraskas to me. It's been a combination of terrible terrible coaching and developing of players.

Nebraska fans' and administrations' hubris is really what got them. @74Hunter and the rest of the huskerboard knuckle draggers like to tell everyone how it was the fault of an administrator who put education before football (hmm...) and that "fans don't hire and fire coaches," but that's complete horseshit. They fired a coach for a 7-7 season after he'd won them 3 conference titles in a row and followed up the 7-7 season with 10 wins and a bowl win, finishing in the top 20. No sane administration I've ever seen does that.

Who does do that? Serious question. The only way that happens is in a place like Nebraska where the ridiculous fan culture has gotten to the point where administrators have to fire coaches who don't go undefeated and win titles within their first five years. Fate even mercifully gave them a mulligan with Pelini and they fucked that up too. Sure he was a dick, but so are the fans bitching at him for winning the conference 4 times and never finishing worse than 9-4. I'd call out the mullet nation too if I were Pelini.

Now they're harvesting what they planted and Frost is their too little, too late last chance.

 

[74Hunter]

I agree with a lot of what many of you guys have posted here, but I'll address this:

Nebraska fans' and administrations' hubris is really what got them. @74Hunter and the rest of the huskerboard knuckle draggers like to tell everyone how it was the fault of an administrator who put education before football (hmm...) and that "fans don't hire and fire coaches," but that's complete horseshit. They fired a coach for a 7-7 season after he'd won them 3 conference titles in a row and followed up the 7-7 season with 10 wins and a bowl win, finishing in the top 20. No sane administration I've ever seen does that.

First, I'm not on that board under that screen name anymore. The guys that run that place are, well, look up Pelini's last address to his Nebraska team. The words he uses to describe Eichorst are what those guys are.

Second, how exactly did the "fans" fire anyone?

Third, which coach are you speaking of? The last coach who won 3 conference titles in a row was Mr. Davis.

Who does do that? Serious question. The only way that happens is in a place like Nebraska where the ridiculous fan culture has gotten to the point where administrators have to fire coaches who don't go undefeated and win titles within their first five years.

Nonsense. Nothing you say here is true.

Pelini and they fucked that up too. Sure he was a dick, but so are the fans bitching at him for winning the conference 4 times and never finishing worse than 9-4.

He never won a conference title.

Your obsession with Nebraska is almost fascinating.

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

once again, I wish to reiterate and not to repeat myself that this is repetitive and redundant.

My grandmother was an English professor...she corrected my vocabulary once....once. In all seriousness, thanks for reminding me of my grandmother.

 

[Fryowa]

Second, how exactly did the "fans" fire anyone?

I explained that in the post.

Third, which coach are you speaking of? The last coach who won 3 conference titles in a row was Mr. Davis.

1 conference and 2 division titles. I'll leave my mistake in the post so people can see it.

Nonsense. Nothing you say here is true.

That's weak. I'm rubber, you're glue? Is that what this is?

You know as well as anyone that no athletic department on the planet would fire a coach with Solich's record unless he was into some sort of scandal. None. And you also know that, like the rest of your non-working but still paid coaches, Solich was canned because of fans and boosters who couldn't bear not going undefeated and being national champs every year. Which is a fools game but is easily explained by your guys' love of mullets, Trans-Ams, cousins, and cutoff jerseys. Hell, he had a better win % than Devaney and Osborne in their own first six years. He also didn't give a woman beater rapist a pass so he could play in the Nat. title game, but that's a different story for a different day.

He never won a conference title.

Division titles. Again I still stand by my statement.

Your obsession with Nebraska is almost fascinating.

You are absolutely correct. I've listened to inbred Nebraskan mouth breeders go on and on and on about seasons that happened two decades ago for way too long. I am most definitely obsessed with your soft-ass team losing ball games and I will be until I hear a fan admit that your team is a shit salad now, and even how crappy old Iowa takes your best in-staters and hangs 40, 50+ on your Blackshirts (along with Oregon, Minnesota, Penn State, and Wisconsin...).

Side note, we did encourage one of your better in state kids to "throw the bones" last time he was in Lincoln as a sign of reverence. But did you guys show any appreciation? Hell no. Ungrateful bastards. One would think you'd give Howells, NE some love for the hometown kid.


You don't need to bother with the "Well at least we have something to reminisce about" spiel. That's like a little kid throwing a temper tantrum in Wal-Mart. We've heard it before and it's all you've got. And don't worry, Iowa's going to have plenty of mediocre seasons before I'm dead--you heard it here first. But one thing we won't do is go around jerking ourselves off about games from 25 years ago. Tell us again about the past and how much it matters.

 

[4thngoal]

I actually support the concept of less abrasive coaching styles, but, history has shown that it depends upon the player's personality.

Some players respond positively to a softer, more encouraging style, while others respond better to a verbal butt-kicking. The greatest player's coaches are the ones that excel at figuring out which player responds to which, and adjusting accordingly.

This.
I wasn't raised around arguing yelling and fighting.
I can't stand it. I don't respond well to demands and force. However that applies to anyone on a different team as well. I don't need motivation that way. I've just always been the type that show me how you want it done and I'll get it done.
Granted a hug is a little far though to. Personal space and all.
As for Nebraska? Whatev. I'm not rooting for them, because I don't care about them. I'm not arguing with them, because I don't care about them. Talking to most of their fans is much like talking to a drunk person.
I don't care who used to coach there, I don't care that decades ago they won blah blah blah and I don't care who coaches there now. Not worth my time and effort.

 

[mopkins]

I've had too many bad experiences with ignorant Nebraska fans to ever root for them...ever. The ones that are still living in the 90s and think everyone still views Nebraska as a blue blood football program...those are the ones that drive me nuts.

Fun fact...nebraska's last national title was in 1997. 21 years ago. That means that the majority of Nebraska football players weren't even alive the last time Nebraska won a national title.

 

[74Hunter]

I explained that in the post.

1 conference and 2 division titles. I'll leave my mistake in the post so people can see it.

That's weak. I'm rubber, you're glue? Is that what this is?

You know as well as anyone that no athletic department on the planet would fire a coach with Solich's record unless he was into some sort of scandal. None. And you also know that, like the rest of your non-working but still paid coaches, Solich was canned because of fans and boosters who couldn't bear not going undefeated and being national champs every year.

Wow, you're full of all sorts of lies. Has your jealousy of the Nebraska program made you this delusional?

No fan fired Solich. He was fired by an ego-maniacal dictator of an athletic director who wanted to put his own stamp on the program. Most of our fans were not happy about it at the time, and were bewildered by the timing of the firing.

As an FYI, there are rumors that part of what led to his firing was that he enjoyed "spending time with cheerleaders." Not sure how true those rumors are, but where there is smoke....

As much time as you spend on Husker message boards obsessing over the program, you should know that Solich's firing is still highly controversial. Some of our fans insist that he was not the guy that we needed, some insist that he was. Almost every one says that the timing was wrong and that our idiot former AD botched the whole hiring/firing process.

.... easily explained by your guys' love of mullets, Trans-Ams, cousins, and cutoff jerseys.

This sounds like the citizenry of pretty much every town in Iowa I've had to visit.

He also didn't give a woman beater rapist a pass so he could play in the Nat. title game, but that's a different story for a different day.

And another lie.

Division titles. Again I still stand by my statement.

Since you've likely never witnessed Iowa win an outright conference title, I understand why you're so confused on what a title actually is.

You are absolutely correct. I've listened to inbred Nebraskan mouth breeders go on and on and on about seasons that happened two decades ago for way too long.

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But one thing we won't do is go around jerking ourselves off about games from 25 years ago. Tell us again about the past and how much it matters.

Clowns like you are more obsessed with our past than we are. I took a look at Huskerboard and another prominent Nebraska message board.....out of dozens of threads on the first page, there was not one reference to seasons from 20+ years ago.

Nice try.

Even though your jealousy is delicious, it's actually pathetic and sad that a college football program has caused you this much strife, mental anguish, and instability.

You should seek help.

 

[number305]

Us Husker fans definitely enjoy our past championships. Would not expect you to understand. However someone here asked for a Husker fan to acknowledge that we have been terrible lately and I will gladly eat that turd sandwich. We have been very bad. However there is a good quote from our glory days that fits in this situation:

Sapp: "Hey Tommie, where you been?"
Frazier: "It aint where I've been fat boy, it's where I'm going."

 

[Fryowa]

And another lie.

Hmm, really? Why don’t you enlighten us maybe. Editorials from Nebraska media don’t count. God forbid anyone slight Jesus Osborne. Tell us about how he was trying to help straighten Larry’s life out and that the perfect timing was pure coincidence.

You should seek help.

1) I’m ok.

2) You seem just as enraged about it.

 

[mopkins]

Us Husker fans definitely enjoy our past championships. Would not expect you to understand. However someone here asked for a Husker fan to acknowledge that we have been terrible lately and I will gladly eat that turd sandwich. We have been very bad. However there is a good quote from our glory days that fits in this situation:

Sapp: "Hey Tommie, where you been?"
Frazier: "It aint where I've been fat boy, it's where I'm going."

I don't think Nebraska has been "bad". But firing Pelini because he "only" won 9.5 games a year was pure stupidity. It just goes back to the unrealistic expectations of the program and its fans. The 90's are over and they're not coming back. The Big 8 is gone and never coming back. Nebraska's new reality is that their ceiling is the same as Wisconsin's. Which isn't bad, but its not 1997 and it never will be ever again.

 

[thetrza]

I keep telling my kids the nineties are coming back. I play the song by Temple of the Dog whenever I drive them or their friends around in my car. They say they don't know the lyrics and can't sing a long but I know they can by now.

 

[BryceC]

Fun fact...nebraska's last national title was in 1997. 21 years ago. That means that the majority of Nebraska football players weren't even alive the last time Nebraska won a national title.

They haven't won a conference title since '99. Won't be long most players won't have even been alive for that.

No fan fired Solich. He was fired by an ego-maniacal dictator of an athletic director who wanted to put his own stamp on the program. Most of our fans were not happy about it at the time, and were bewildered by the timing of the firing.

Even though your jealousy is delicious, it's actually pathetic and sad that a college football program has caused you this much strife, mental anguish, and instability.

I'm not even an Iowa fan... but seriously dude, the fact that you think an Iowa fan would be jealous of Nebraska shows you are still living in the past. Iowa has outclassed Nebraska in every conceivable way for almost 20 years. That's a generation.

And while Solich being fired now may be controversial, at least from my perspective, it wasn't at the time.

 

[Xerxes]

They haven't won a conference title since '99. Won't be long most players won't have even been alive for that.



I'm not even an Iowa fan... but seriously dude, the fact that you think an Iowa fan would be jealous of Nebraska shows you are still living in the past. Iowa has outclassed Nebraska in every conceivable way for almost 20 years. That's a generation.

And while Solich being fired now may be controversial, at least from my perspective, it wasn't at the time.

For nearly a decade Iowa and Nebraska have been very similar in many ways:

-Both have struggles in recruiting because their rural locations are not desirable for 18-22 year olds to live.

-Both have spent most of that time unranked and nationally irrelevant. (exception being Iowa in 2015)

-Both have fan bases that think the programs are and should be much better than they actually are.

-Both fan bases think they can be on the same level as Wisconsin even though Wisconsin has dominated both over said decade.