Half the fans or better don't park on university property.
Schwartz: 12 Sentences – Let’s Watch Hawkeye Football In 2020 Edition
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Half the fans or better don't park on university property.
That's all we got right now man. Other than redneck car racing and Tom Brady playing golf against Peyton Manning.
You do realize nursing homes are all closed off right? You can't even have a visitor in a hospital. And if anyone goes to visit Grandma in these times, that is on them (the parents) and on Grandma.
That's why I said so much of the debate and arguing is because people are basing their opinions and finding articles to support said opinions based on personal situations.
Which should be a factor, but only part of the decision. If every person in government knew that their child would be on the front lines of a war, would they still vote the same? Maybe, but maybe not.
In other words, it's easy for fans to back their opinion on what should happen with college football (or anything really) when they are not really vested in it.
However it's different if you are KF. He has considered several sides. His age, his staff, his own son being on that staff as well as other people's son's being players.
In my experience people who can see multiple sides to almost everything are fairly intelligent, if for no other reason than they tend to be open minded and probably have empathy in that they can put themselves into many situations and have perspective from those situations. Usually these types of people make good decisions.
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RobHowe
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If I end it, the conversation will just move to another thread. And then if I end that, it will move to another one, and so on.
If posters aren't going to police themselves, there's only so much I can do. I'm not dedicating 24 hours a day, seven days a week to monitoring it. I'm too old for that shit.
If posters aren't going to police themselves, there's only so much I can do. I'm not dedicating 24 hours a day, seven days a week to monitoring it. I'm too old for that shit.
Motigerhawk
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You realize grandparents are raising their grandchildren now.
Yes, great strategy. Make the uncommon seem common. So, in that case, where poor health elderly grandparents are raising grand kids (most likely meth parents??), the kiddies would stay home. Assume you are talking school age. They have no reason to be going out. Even in that case it has nothing to do with football or any kind of gatherings. Grandma and Grandpa can go get groceries or get them picked up at parking lot. No need to go in. No need for grandkids to go in or go anywhere.
Just turn away from the train wreck.
Fryowa
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Nothing. They want to argue government policy on a sports board.
SpiderRico
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You know the country's gone to hell when we can't even argue science without wanting to rip each other's throats out. 
BlackNGold1982
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We’re largely talking about 2 different topics - morbidity vs. mortality. CDC provides what we call “big data”, meaning surveillance on easy to track metrics, mortality and simple cases being examples. And again, you’re focusing on the %, which is one way to view the data. But we don’t test everyone for SARS-CoV-2 just like we don’t test everyone for influenza. So percentages have a built in range. But what cannot be disputed as the raw # of deaths between the COVID-19 and influenza. And we’re not even halfway through the game yet with COVID where influenza has already been tabulated on an annual basis. As it relates to morbidity, this data is much less amendable in part due to it being a novel virus with ramifications wide ranging. If you don’t attribute or think to attribute a negative outcome to being due to COVID, then you’re fighting surveillance bias and you’ll simply miss it. It has little to do with “1-2 cases not providing enough veracity.” So you can cite the CDC all you wish - it’s a reputable source. But you need to further understand the inherent limitations of big data while appreciating what it cannot fully tell you. My point remains, when you work in this field and see the shit on a daily basis of what happens, the morbidity is nothing like that of influenza.
BlackNGold1982
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Yes, there are emerging concerns for stroke In notably young individuals. There are a lot of CDC citations on this site so I’ll attach another reputable journal I regularly read: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009787
Now, these are the first reports and this doesn’t prove cause and effect or provide any incidence of outcome. We simply cannot quantify the risk yet when so many unknowns still exist. You cannot begin to establish cause and effect until you’re initially even aware that there’s a problem, just like we came to find out that COVID-19 can cause substantial acute respiratory distress syndrome - you learn about the true incidence as you go along and actually begin to perform surveillance to capture that data. There will be more literature on this topic since we’re really only 5 months into this virus. More to come, without question.
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