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[proudhawkfan21]

You just nailed it inadvertently. Think about the big gains on Iowa over the past few years. The play of the game was the hurdle of the Iowa tackle. Does ANYONE teach proper tackling to the Iowa defense? He went in way too low and didn't attempt to get his arms around him. Think back to the Big Championship and the last drive. Other games as well. No wrapping up. The stopping and quick change of direction? Can ONLY happen repeatedly when the defense stops for contain and is not closing down. The guy isn't superman. Really good, but not superman. He had 88 yards rushing against Pitt which was a 2 possession game with 6 minutes left. He had 46 yards receiving.

Iowa gained little or no respect with this loss. It is a notable near win and teams will take note, but the commentators are further going to be entrenched in thinking Iowa is not really relevant because of this. It was not normal football.

I dont think you and i watched the same game. Was Richard Simmons sweating to the oldies at any time during YOUR game? Because in the game i was watching, a top 5 NFL draft pick/Heisman winning RB played a hell of a football game.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

For anyone complaining about the game plan on either side of the ball.....if you want to call it dumb luck that Iowa was up 19-15 with 4 seconds left...god bless ya! You watched a football game but you dont understand what happened and how it was possible that Iowa had a chance to win.

 

[HawkGold]

I dont think you and i watched the same game. Was Richard Simmons sweating to the oldies at any time during YOUR game? Because in the game i was watching, a top 5 NFL draft pick/Heisman winning RB played a hell of a football game.

Never said he wasn't a beast. What were you watching on some of those plays including 2 guys who made no attempt to wrap him up on a critical late 4th quarter drive. Most people in that situation are actually watching the game. Learn the finer points. Go back and watch the Outback. Same thing. Primarily its the 2ndary that doesn't wrap up. Primarily.

Richard Simmons never enters my mind. What does that say about you?

 

[HomerChampless]

Because they made plays at the right time to hold PSU to 19 points, then I agree. But how often can you rely on a team to give up almost 600 yards and only 19 points? We were very fortunate they did make the plays they made, when they made them.

Fluke, more like it, and not an indicator of how good Iowa's defense or Iowa is.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

Fluke, more like it, and not an indicator of how good Iowa's defense or Iowa is.

I actually think we showed that we could do well as a pressure defense. I think that using our DE's at the same time caused some serious problems for the PSU OL. Their RT got abused all night by AN, AJ and Brinks.

 

[HomerChampless]

I actually think we showed that we could do well as a pressure defense. I think that using our DE's at the same time caused some serious problems for the PSU OL. Their RT got abused all night by AN, AJ and Brinks.

Blitzing the QB, on occasion, yes, Tackling and scheming, no. Almost 600 yards, man.

How many times did Iowa stop PSU on the 5 yard line or less without points? How many other teams will Iowa do that to? Isn't that just an indication of a flaw in PSU's offense?

 

[proudhawkfan21]

Never said he wasn't a beast. What were you watching on some of those plays including 2 guys who made no attempt to wrap him up on a critical late 4th quarter drive. Most people in that situation are actually watching the game. Learn the finer points. Go back and watch the Outback. Same thing. Primarily its the 2ndary that doesn't wrap up. Primarily.

Richard Simmons never enters my mind. What does that say about you?

It says that if you are on the field ALL NIGHT LONG ...youre gonna miss some tackles. Really? You didnt think about that? I dont need to learn many finer points. If you dont understand fatigue then Richard Simmons would be a beast that you dont want to get into the octagon with lol. What are you truing to say about Richard Simmons? Are you gay bashing?

 

[ArvadaHawk]

Blitzing the QB, on occasion, yes, Tackling and scheming, no. Almost 600 yards, man.

How many times did Iowa stop PSU on the 5 yard line or less without points? How many other teams will Iowa do that to? Isn't that just an indication of a flaw in PSU's offense?

fair enough...let me rephrase it. when we chose to pressure, we were successful and I could argue that should be more of a tactic than bend-don't-break. More aggression. When unleashed, it looks like we've got at least 4 DE's who can get home (AN, AJ, SB and PH).

 

[HawkGold]

It says that if you are on the field ALL NIGHT LONG ...youre gonna miss some tackles. Really? You didnt think about that? I dont need to learn many finer points. If you dont understand fatigue then Richard Simmons would be a beast that you dont want to get into the octagon with lol. What are you truing to say about Richard Simmons? Are you gay bashing?

No, you by your insinuation did that. I just simply replied. It seemed your comment was implying what you are saying I did. Having participated in athletics and having coached I understand fatigue quite well.

 

[Niemo]

I don't care how good a tackler you are if you can't catch the guy or match his power or strength, AND have a perfect shot at him, you're rarely gonna get him down.

That drive you speak of resulted in zero points but he was a beast that drive. Showing his hops, strength, speed and wiggle. We had him in a dead man's position like 4x on that drive yet he found a way to get 7 yards.

U put him in an oklahoma drill he'll win an insane amount of time.

Gold, let's hear your offensive and defensive gameplan for psu.

 

[Niemo]

And that Gimmicky defense held psu to 6 for 18 on third down. Which means iowa's defense won twice as often as the vaunted psu offense.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

No, you by your insinuation did that. I just simply replied. It seemed your comment was implying what you are saying I did. Having participated in athletics and having coached I understand fatigue quite well.

You understand it then, but you omitted its presence here and when you are evaluating a team that played over 90 snaps on a warm saturday night, you are ignoring the most crucial factor in being out of position or missing tackles, fatigue. This defense was praised coast to coast for its heart and the results, except by you and a handful of other hawkeye haters. Its ok, you are just wrong. Its not even opinion. Barkley played an amazing game. To say otherwise is just foolish.

Your first three sentences are gibberish.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

And that Gimmicky defense held psu to 6 for 18 on third down. Which means iowa's defense won twice as often as the vaunted psu offense.

With the caliber of athlete that PSU has for that read option....when Barkley emerges from the phone booth in his superman underoos like he did Saturday night, the best SEC defense would have struggled to hold them to 15 points for 59:56.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

Look, you can't have it both ways. You can't plan on the defense playing bend but don't break defense and also complaining about the defense being on the field for an inordinate amount of plays.

If you want to give the defense a break, tell them to force a few quick fourth downs every once in a while.

You do realize Iowa lost? That moral victories should mean nothing? That Iowa coming close was a fluke? That nine times out of ten Iowa would've been blown out of the game if only PSU had an affective short yardage on a short field offense?

So if we applied life principles to the argument, are you the greatest man on earth? Have you never failed? You better pick up the shattered pieces of your failed life, take your ball and go home. There are no moral victories here you failure. That you even showed up here is surprising. I mean, what were YOU thinking. But somehow i think you probably find the courage to wake up each day and move forward. Perhaps even find a moral victory or two along the journey?

To your other ramblings, the point that was being made is that the Iowa defense did its job. The offense failed to sustain drives. That is not on the defense. The defense's job is to keep points off the board. They held PSU to 19 points, the offense gave up 2.

You have zero proof that PSU destroys Iowa 9 times out of 10. Thats absurd. There was no suggestion that he was trying to "have it both ways." The suggestion was that if the offense sustained a handful of drives, the defense would have been less fatigued. Bend but dont break doesnt keep you on the field for 90+ plays, a consistent 3 and out offense does. Kudos to the defense for doing its job.

 

[AreWeThereYet]

No, of course not. The tackler was about knee level. You hit the waste or the thighs and wrap. Iowa does do a lot of shoulder pad tackling without wrapping them up. They really do. That was the game breaking play. Grab his jersey even for a moment and he doesn't get that first down. The guy is a beast no doubt. He was a 130 yard beast against Pitt. 300 something including 200 plus on the ground against Iowa.

I do know that if you don't go in all out and hesitate, you are toast.

Good luck on wrapping up Barkley at thigh level. He was busting through those all night. Even going backwards and standing still he was breaking thigh level tackles. I take is that players were instructed to take him at knee level. Otherwise he's gone.

 

[HawkGold]

You understand it then, but you omitted its presence here and when you are evaluating a team that played over 90 snaps on a warm saturday night, you are ignoring the most crucial factor in being out of position or missing tackles, fatigue. This defense was praised coast to coast for its heart and the results, except by you and a handful of other hawkeye haters. Its ok, you are just wrong. Its not even opinion. Barkley played an amazing game. To say otherwise is just foolish.

Your first three sentences are gibberish.

You miss my points. Its still about improper tackling and 90 plays is on the game plan. As far as insults Ill choose to let you be better at it.

 

[HawkGold]

Good luck on wrapping up Barkley at thigh level. He was busting through those all night. Even going backwards and standing still he was breaking thigh level tackles. I take is that players were instructed to take him at knee level. Otherwise he's gone.

It was especially the 2nd miss but u have a point.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

You miss my points. Its still about improper tackling and 90 plays is on the game plan. As far as insults Ill choose to let you be better at it.

My insults were tongue in cheek and sarcastic. I think missed tackles is the wound, fatigue is the disease. The ineffective offense was the culprit/origin

 

[HawkGold]

My insults were tongue in cheek and sarcastic. I think missed tackles is the wound, fatigue is the disease. The ineffective offense was the culprit/origin

By your picture...you have no cheeks....

 

[HuckFinn]

Sure have seen a lot of guys miss Akrum W. and he gets the credit. Gate swings two directions.