Ryan Boyle

[Northside Hawk]

Boyle would not have completed a pass against Mississippi State. Too small; too slow; etc. etc.

Iowa would have defeated Indiana State 63-0.

Come on, people

People got Indiana State confused with Illinois, a team we DID beat 63-0.

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

Iowa finds QB's to fit their style. Most college teams find QB's to fit their style. It usually doesn't work to completely change a team's style to fit a QB, unless is once-in-a-lifetime kind of QB. Iowa is a developmental program and they manufacture players for their positions and style of play. Iowa can't really change gears as well as a blue blood program with 4 and 5* players running around the field. Boyle is a good player but don't forget that he is undersized so there is a chance you are taking if you were to try to change a style for one player.

Look at Michigan, changing gears isn’t always a given even with top recruits.

 

[hawkfan2679]

Actually I listened to Chuck Long tell the story about this play once on the radio. Ronnie Harmon thought he was going to get the ball. Chuck called an inside run play but Hayden actually instructed Chuck to pull the ball back and run a naked bootleg. Hayden's thought was that he wanted it to be so real looking that Chuck would just pull the ball out before Harmon got it even faking Harmon.

This is what I had heard as well. I think Long may have been the only player on that team that knew he was keeping it...although in hindsight Harmon must have known because his fake was extremely realistic.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

This is what I had heard as well. I think Long may have been the only player on that team that knew he was keeping it...although in hindsight Harmon must have known because his fake was extremely realistic.

Yep. I dunno. I don't think Harmon knew and why was so real.

 

[Knight78]

The Chuck Long bootleg play was perfectly executed in addition to being unexpected. First off, Harmon sold that he had the ball. He didn't make a half hearted dive into the line, he went in like a man fighting for the goal line, or at least a first down. Mike Flagg, who was option two on the play, had to hold his block long enough to not let the contain man get to the edge and force Long sideways. Chuck had to turn his back completely to the defense for what had to seem like an eternity. Finally the blocking back, either Fred Bush or Rick Bayless, had to take out the weak side linebacker, the one in best position to read the play. He did read the play but get his legs taken out just enough where he couldn't reach Long.

Flagg was open at the goal line if needed. But the play was executed so well that Long was able to walk right in, holding the ball high over his head.

Footnote: Many people believe that ended the game, like Houghtlin's final play field goal a couple weeks later would. It didn't. There were still thirty seconds left. Michigan State quickly completed a couple passes and were around Iowa's 40 yard line with a decent shot at a hail Mary (a better chance than Drew Tate vs LSU anyway). Devon Mitchell batted Bobby McAlister's final pass away in the end zone, but even then Mark Ingram almost caught the ricochet.

Isn't that the game that later was revealed that Iowa had called a time out and Hayden had everyone around him on the sidelines and called the play to Harmon... and then as everyone else left Hayden told Long (and only Long) to keep the ball and run a bootleg? I remember seeing that on a special for the team, both Hayden and Long saying that's what happened. That would be why Harmon sold out on the fake; he thought he was getting the ball.

 

[Robowe]

Isn't that the game that later was revealed that Iowa had called a time out and Hayden had everyone around him on the sidelines and called the play to Harmon... and then as everyone else left Hayden told Long (and only Long) to keep the ball and run a bootleg? I remember seeing that on a special for the team, both Hayden and Long saying that's what happened. That would be why Harmon sold out on the fake; he thought he was getting the ball.

I believe you are correct.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Iowa finds QB's to fit their style. Most college teams find QB's to fit their style. It usually doesn't work to completely change a team's style to fit a QB, unless is once-in-a-lifetime kind of QB. Iowa is a developmental program and they manufacture players for their positions and style of play. Iowa can't really change gears as well as a blue blood program with 4 and 5* players running around the field. Boyle is a good player but don't forget that he is undersized so there is a chance you are taking if you were to try to change a style for one player.

He's like 6'1 or 6'2 about 200-210 lbs. He's big enough. He'd have been fine in that department. But your right about Iowa having committed to a style. It's why Petras is #2 over Mansell is now who compares quite a bit to Boyle physically. Petras is practically a Stanley clone if he puts on about 10-15 more lbs. Which is fine there's nothing wrong with hitching your wagon to a style. I just had a ton of fun watching Iowa during the Banks and Tate era. It's tough to account for the 11th weapon on the field. It feels like if your QB is a statue your taking one of them off the board at times.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

He's like 6'1 or 6'2 about 200-210 lbs. He's big enough. He'd have been fine in that department. But your right about Iowa having committed to a style. It's why Petras is #2 over Mansell is now who compares quite a bit to Boyle physically. Petras is practically a Stanley clone if he puts on about 10-15 more lbs. Which is fine there's nothing wrong with hitching your wagon to a style. I just had a ton of fun watching Iowa during the Banks and Tate era. It's tough to account for the 11th weapon on the field. It feels like if your QB is a statue your taking one of them off the board at times.

Oh I hear ya. I agree.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

I like what we have going at the moment