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really suck, Gesell just dropped intheir ranking for the 2nd time after committing to Iowa, dropped from 74 to 87, now has dropped to 96 overall, with the team ranking coming in at 19th the worst of all services:confused:
 
Actually, when Mike committed to Iowa, he was ranked 89th. Rivals just came out with their updated rankings last month for all players and he moved down 7 spots. He was a 3 star in the spring and moved up to 4 star after the summer.
 
Dragonhawk said:
either way, they show their bias against Iowa
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Really?
Just stop, Woodbury has shot up the board and it will be surprising if he drops, now at 42 overall, I believe he started somewhere around 93. Paige started in the Top 20 at the beginning of his Jr. year and now is down to 41 and I seriously doubt UNC fans are upset about that.

Please, please stop...this is getting old.
 
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I think Mike will be a good player at Iowa, but you can only go off player evaluations so much. Mike did not have any big time offers, so his ranking will probably reflect that.
 
from what i heard he was a big Creighton fan, and his parents wanted him to go to Stanford, when a kid has his sights set on somebody, the other schools back away, he was not interested in Iowa until Fran made it a point to go to all his AAU games,as for offers Macon had very few offers and yet is a top 50 prospect on ESPN, Gesell is #73 and rated the 11 best pt on ESPN and is still at those spots after he committed, rival continues to drop players be it FB or BB players, i am expecting Woodbury to be dropped in their rankings
 
Dragonhawk said:
from what i heard he was a big Creighton fan, and his parents wanted him to go to Stanford, when a kid has his sights set on somebody, the other schools back away, he was not interested in Iowa until Fran made it a point to go to all his AAU games,as for offers Macon had very few offers and yet is a top 50 prospect on ESPN, Gesell is #73 and rated the 11 best pt on ESPN and is still at those spots after he committed, rival continues to drop players be it FB or BB players, i am expecting Woodbury to be dropped in their rankings
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I'm sorry, but your argument has little to no merit.

First of all, by all accounts Macon has some pretty serious grade issues. As we have seen (Gavin Thurman for example), players with grade problems don't get a ton of offers in the fall. Schools want to make sure the player can actually qualify before they extend a scholarship to him.

Second, who did Gessell have his sights set on? You just listed off 3 different schools you "heard" he was interested in. That seems pretty wide open to me. If an "elite" level school wanted to offer Gessell, I don't think they would have been worried about getting beat out by Iowa, Stanford, or Creighton. It sure didn't stop Roy Williams from going after Woodbury, who was thought to be an Iowa lean throughout his entire recruitment.

Third of all, players don't get dropped in the rankings just because they commit to Iowa. They get dropped/raised based on their performance during the AAU circuit/season and what offers they are collecting. Are you saying that Brandon Ashley dropped 10 spots, out of the top 5, because he committed to Arizona? Players drop in the rankings; Marcus Paige dropped, Macon dropped, Tokoto (UNC commit) dropped. Heck, DaJuan Coleman was in the top 10 after the summer, but now checks in at number 27.

Furthermore, the opposite of the above point is true in football. If a player commits to Iowa, they are often UPgraded, not downgraded. Just this year Keppy and Ott went from being not ranked to 3-stars, despite no other offers from a BCS school. Austin Blythe committed in May last year and didn't have a lot of offers. Did he drop out of the top 150 or get downgraded from a 4 star? No. That is a myth that hasn't been true in a long time, if ever.
 
@Dragonhawk--I was under the impression that you thought "star gazing" was stupid. Why does it matter what Rivals thinks of Iowa's recruits?
 
Hehehe.......Woodbury chooses IOWA over North Carolina.....hehehe. I just smile every time I think of it. A true center at Iowa.........the tide has turned..... Thank God!
 
Dragonhawk said:
stop looking at the lack of stars, White was out last summer due to injury and missed the evaluation, Olaseni came from Europe and never got evaluated to get ranked, Fran has evaluated them both, Fran and his staff know talent, they are not wet behind the ears in doing their job, they are not going after2-3 year projects they are going after players that can play now
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just goes to show that stars doesn't matter to Fran, 2* on rivals, scout and espn, he is a very good looking kid, strong defender, good handles, is a very good compliment to Gesselllooks like he could be a starter if Gesell gets hurt, otherwise would be a solid backup to spell him
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Dragonhawk said:
i guess i will have to face facts that you will skirt the issue and ignore the question, and that the star gazers will put him down because of that, so much for not looking at stars stormin, you proved that by your comment on Woodbury, it is very clear that those that have the star are clearly better than those that don't, we shall see how this season progresses as to how he does
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Dragonhawk said:
from what i heard he was a big Creighton fan, and his parents wanted him to go to Stanford, when a kid has his sights set on somebody, the other schools back away, he was not interested in Iowa until Fran made it a point to go to all his AAU games,as for offers Macon had very few offers and yet is a top 50 prospect on ESPN, Gesell is #73 and rated the 11 best pt on ESPN and is still at those spots after he committed, rival continues to drop players be it FB or BB players, i am expecting Woodbury to be dropped in their rankings
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That is extremely NOT true. Teams still recruit players committed to other schools. I don't where you got this information, but I laughed when I read it.
 
Stanford was his parents 1st choice, and he did grow up a Creighton fan and he did in fact have no interest in Iowa until Fran put the full court press on him recruiting interest. i didn't know it was that hard to understand, he even stated that in a interview that Fran had told him he would attend all of his AAU games and the fact that he did, really impressed him and was the primary reason he chose Iowa
 
i dont think gesell grew up a CU fan. he was a nebraska fan. however, his brother played for mcdermott at wayne state.
 
If you want pretty accurate evaluations of FB recruits; Rivals is good source. BB, not so much.
 
joemc1 said:
If you want pretty accurate evaluations of FB recruits; Rivals is good source. BB, not so much.
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Not necessarily disagreeing with this, but why do you say that? It does seem like the scout and ESPN guys tweet a lot more than the Rivals bball guys.
 
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