Revisiting The Fake FG Play

[MelroseHawkins]

Ok. I thought it used to be that a team had to declare to the official if a lineman was going to be a possible receiver. Did Kluver have to declare to be an eligible receiver? Did he not have to with the way they ended up lining up in formation, such as was he the outside guy then looked at as a TE? Thought we could just break down that play.

 

[Motigerhawk]

His number was 87 and he was the last one on the line. Doesnt matter if he was snapping the ball.

Therefore he was an eligible receiver.

 

[CP87]

His number was 87 and he was the last one on the line. Doesnt matter if he was snapping the ball.

Therefore he was an eligible receiver.

97 actually, but same difference. Numbers in the 90's are considered eligible.

 

[homes]

97. But still an eligible receiver number. Brilliant play. OSU had no clue. Same for the 99.999999% of those watching on tv or in the stands.

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

Just got goosebumps thinking about how everyone in the stands reacted when he caught it. That game was incredible.

 

[Hawk1960]

97 actually, but same difference. Numbers in the 90's are considered eligible.

^^^ This.

Guy to his right was off the line of scrimmage so Kluver was like a TE/C and eligible to be a receiver. Brilliant play.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Ok. About the formation, isn't a team supposed to have so many (like 5 or something) on the line of scrimmage? How do they get away with having so many lined outside and random players lined up in the middle? I thought you had to have so many on the line so far apart from each other.

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

Ok. About the formation, isn't a team supposed to have so many (like 5 or something) on the line of scrimmage? How do they get away with having so many lined outside and random players lined up in the middle? I thought you had to have so many on the line so far apart from each other.

The players on the left side of the field count as being on the line of scrimmage. I don’t believe it matters where you are on the field.

 

[homes]

^^^ This.

Guy to his right was off the line of scrimmage so Kluver was like a TE/C and eligible to be a receiver. Brilliant play.

Of all the plays, I think Stanley's touchdown pass with Hubbard wrapped around his leg as my favorite of the day. It was the epitome of Iowa's attitude that day. GET THE EFF OUT OF MY WAY OSU, YOU CANNOT STOP US.

 

[GesterHawk]

The players on the left side of the field count as being on the line of scrimmage. I don’t believe it matters where you are on the field.

And also, it doesn't matter what the player's number is, if they are on the line and covered up, the are inelligible.

 

[Motigerhawk]

7 on the like of scrimmage. Which there are. The LOS extends from sideline to sideline.

 

[hwk23]

This play cracks me up. First, our 5 star DE goes in motion the length of the field. Then the punter takes a direct snap from the 20 yard line and people call it a fake FG, even though everybody knows no way we're kicking a FG. If we were going for the FG where's the kicker and why not just kick it? Works every time lol.

 

[uihawk82]

Ok. About the formation, isn't a team supposed to have so many (like 5 or something) on the line of scrimmage? How do they get away with having so many lined outside and random players lined up in the middle? I thought you had to have so many on the line so far apart from each other.

A football team can have 10 players on the LOS and just a qb to take the snap. A football team cannot have more than 4 players lined up in the backfield/at least one yard off the LOS. When you hear the penalty for illegal formation for too many players in the backfield it is usually a wideout, TE, or tackle who is a 1/2 yard too far back from a neutral LOS position. Remember the call against Iowa in the Alamo Bowl against Texas.

If you have a really good running QB and RB you could have 9 on the LOS and let the runners just zone read and option looking for soft spots in the LOS.

 

[uihawk82]

Ok. About the formation, isn't a team supposed to have so many (like 5 or something) on the line of scrimmage? How do they get away with having so many lined outside and random players lined up in the middle? I thought you had to have so many on the line so far apart from each other.

So conversely there are usually 7 players on the LOS. There was a play in the OSU game last weekend where it was almost positive that OSU had 5 in the backfield but it was not called. They had the QB and RB in the backfield and 3 receivers to the left where all three were lined up a yard or more off the LOS making 5 in the backfield.

 

[uihawk82]

7 on the like of scrimmage. Which there are. The LOS extends from sideline to sideline.

But you can have 10 on the LOS or 11 but no one to snap the ball to.

 

[uihawk82]

97. But still an eligible receiver number. Brilliant play. OSU had no clue. Same for the 99.999999% of those watching on tv or in the stands.

My first thought with all the motion was it was 4th down and 3 to 4 yards to go and I thought the hawks were trying all the shifting and motion to draw OSU offsides. I was still thinking that because we had that lone player going in motion and the holder/punter at QB so WTF no way are we snapping this.

But it was just a great play call. Anyone remember the old fumbleroosskie plays back in the 70's and 80;s and probably long before that. I think the rules makers amended the rules to make it harder to run that play.

 

[hawkfan2679]

So conversely there are usually 7 players on the LOS. There was a play in the OSU game last weekend where it was almost positive that OSU had 5 in the backfield but it was not called. They had the QB and RB in the backfield and 3 receivers to the left where all three were lined up a yard or more off the LOS making 5 in the backfield.

I can't help but watch that on every play...who is covered, who is uncovered...we have actually run a fair amount of run plays out of unbalanced sets this year because we shift or motion and cover our RE.

On almost every play with wide receivers one of them should be pointing to the line judging signifying he is the "on" player. As long as EMLOS players arent blatantly covered this rule seems to be enforced somewhat loosely.

 

[guffus]

97 actually, but same difference. Numbers in the 90's are considered eligible.

I thought that was an NFL thing. I do not believe there is any rule in college that certain positions have to wear certain numbers. That's why in NFL a lineman has to report when they are an eligible receiver. In college there is no need. If you line up as an elligible reciever, then that's good enough. I could be wrong, but thats what I thought.

 

[MikeyLikesIowa]

I watched this video earlier today in which the guy does a great job breaking down this play.

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

This play cracks me up. First, our 5 star DE goes in motion the length of the field. Then the punter takes a direct snap from the 20 yard line and people call it a fake FG, even though everybody knows no way we're kicking a FG. If we were going for the FG where's the kicker and why not just kick it? Works every time lol.

It's called a fake field goal because they lined up in a normal field goal formation first. I noticed when I rewatched the game that it was a lot different to watch on TV than live. They were in the field goal formation for at least 5 seconds before everyone split of to the sides of the field. You didn't really get a good look at this on TV. It was a lot more dramatic to watch live.