Reports: QB Hank Brown Visiting Hawkeyes

[Fryowa]

Yes I believe Hank has 3 yrs to play though is what Tyler Tachmans article said. I'd assume he was told he'll have the opportunity to push Sully for the #1 gig but I would think Sully has the leg up for it next yr and he's cool with it. So I'm not jumping up and down about this signing either cause he's basically replacing Lainez. He might end up playing someday he might not.

Which makes me think we aren't done shopping in the portal yet for a QB. Among several other spots. This week should be interesting.

Yeah, really if it isn't a homerun get from the portal at QB it doesn't upset the apple cart.

I just didn't know if since he's got three years to play and if it ended up that he had to sit for the third year in a row if he'd actually wait it out. My mind says probably not but who knows.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Yeah, really if it isn't a homerun get from the portal at QB it doesn't upset the apple cart.

I just didn't know if since he's got three years to play and if it ended up that he had to sit for the third year in a row if he'd actually wait it out. My mind says probably not but who knows.

That's where I think his relationship with his family comes into play and closer to home both. They'd have to have considered that as a possibility. Everything is yr to yr anymore anyway. At this time next yr they'll revisit it. If he isn't comfortable with where he stands on the depth chart he'll probably bail like anyone else would. We'll see.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Knowing what we know now if Mcnamara was a "homerun" I'd rather have the solid get.

Tongue was firmly in cheek. But, when CM signed with Iowa it was by far the highest profile transfer Iowa had gotten in recent memory and everyone on this Board was predicting Natties. That excitement was only eclipsed for the 11 minutes that Proctor was committed to Iowa.

 

[kicker22]

Tongue was firmly in cheek. But, when CM signed with Iowa it was by far the highest profile transfer Iowa had gotten in recent memory and everyone on this Board was predicting Natties. That excitement was only eclipsed for the 11 minutes that Proctor was committed to Iowa.

I think what we learned was proceed with caution when it comes to players that entered the portal due to injuries.

 

[HawkeyezBull]

In this day and age, all it means (Proctor aside) is that he will be on the team next year and will probably be gone for another bag after that. It is almost crazy to sign high school kids any longer when more than half will transfer before they even see the field

 

[HuckFinn]

In fairness Lucy was in way too far over her head with the bookies and may have had a bounty on on her. Shaving points on the street was the only thing she could do. She hated doing it to her friend, but had no choice.

OMG! I was totally unaware. Explains a lot!

 

[HuckFinn]

That's where I think his relationship with his family comes into play and closer to home both. They'd have to have considered that as a possibility. Everything is yr to yr anymore anyway. At this time next yr they'll revisit it. If he isn't comfortable with where he stands on the depth chart he'll probably bail like anyone else would. We'll see.

Family is a huge motivator. Good point.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Family is a huge motivator. Good point.

I guess his folks and Lester have a relationship of some sort and go back quite aways. So that's not nothing but is it the end all be all? I just think that means Iowa is shooting him straight.

 

[CP87]

Tongue was firmly in cheek. But, when CM signed with Iowa it was by far the highest profile transfer Iowa had gotten in recent memory and everyone on this Board was predicting Natties. That excitement was only eclipsed for the 11 minutes that Proctor was committed to Iowa.

Not everyone, I was pretty lukewarm from the start. He just didn't seem like a needle mover.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Not everyone, I was pretty lukewarm from the start. He just didn't seem like a needle mover.

Wish we were all as wise and prescient as you. I was pretty excited about a kid who was recruited by one of the best football coaches in America, led his team to a conference title and playoff birth, and then lost his job by being beat out by a kid that was then drafted in the first round. But hey, those types of profiles come along all the time for a program of Iowa's ilk.

(my head hurts when I roll my eyes this hard)

 

[CP87]

Wish we were all as wise and prescient as you. I was pretty excited about a kid who was recruited by one of the best football coaches in America, led his team to a conference title and playoff birth, and then lost his job by being beat out by a kid that was then drafted in the first round. But hey, those types of profiles come along all the time for a program of Iowa's ilk.

(my head hurts when I roll my eyes this hard)

Hey, I am not saying I am wise or prescient, I make all sorts of wrong calls. But McNamara just didn't excite me.

Changes on the horizon...

That's what I saw in the IL game. All Petras could see were IL linemen. I still think KF is so out of touch he didn't want any QB to see them. KF's vision of the pass. Three Things Can Happen When You Pass and Two of Them Are Bad

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[CP87]

I will add, I did talk myself into more optimism as time went on...but that faded pretty fast when it was evident that he could not elevate the BF turd sandwich offense.

 

[Glass1/2fullguy]

Not everyone, I was pretty lukewarm from the start. He just didn't seem like a needle mover.

I was definitely excited but NOwhere near NC level talk. More like, damn Iowa might now have a competent offense.

 

[99topdawg]

The thing is will he be willing to sit behind Sullivan for another year? I’m not saying the job is Sullivan’s, but right now it looks like there’s a real good chance of it. If Brown hit the portal because he didn’t get enough PT, he could just as easily do that to us in the fall. He already burned his shirt so if he sits a whole ‘ other year he’ll only have 2 to play and I dont see it. He left because he wants PT. Sorry, but with unlimited transferring and NIL nowadays it’s dumb to get hyped about anyone until they actually walk on a field during a game. They could sign 50 QBs out of the portal but they can jump ship on us just as easy as they’re jumping ship where there currently at.

Obviously this isn’t only an Iowa problem but I just don’t see portal QBs being something you can get excited about until they bring contracts into it.

You really think QB's are just going to jump around from team to team just because they can?

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Hey, I am not saying I am wise or prescient, I make all sorts of wrong calls. But McNamara just didn't excite me.

Changes on the horizon...

That's what I saw in the IL game. All Petras could see were IL linemen. I still think KF is so out of touch he didn't want any QB to see them. KF's vision of the pass. Three Things Can Happen When You Pass and Two of Them Are Bad

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I bought the kool aid... Wish I hadn't. Not that it'd have mattered but yeah the signs were there. Undersized noodle armed damaged goods. Granted predicting his quad injury and reshredding of his knee wasn't a given. But I think it's clear even had he been 100% he wouldn't have been what many had hoped. He just wasn't that good. I give him props for trying. He had to rehab a bitch of an injury I certainly feel for that. Swing and a miss though like every other dang QB since Stanley pretty much.

(Petras was a huge miss IDC that he started 3 yrs. If we'd have had any other options worth a crap he shouldn't have started the 2nd/3rd yrs)

 

[Fryowa]

You really think QB's are just going to jump around from team to team just because they can?


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Lol...

It's like people who date somebody they know was cheating on the previous one, and expect them not to do it to them...

 

[Fryowa]

I bought the kool aid... Wish I hadn't. Not that it'd have mattered but yeah the signs were there. Undersized noodle armed damaged goods. Granted predicting his quad injury and reshredding of his knee wasn't a given. But I think it's clear even had he been 100% he wouldn't have been what many had hoped. He just wasn't that good. I give him props for trying. He had to rehab a bitch of an injury I certainly feel for that. Swing and a miss though like every other dang QB since Stanley pretty much.

(Petras was a huge miss IDC that he started 3 yrs. If we'd have had any other options worth a crap he shouldn't have started the 2nd/3rd yrs)

Taking McNamara on was the right move by Iowa.

Where they went wrong was keeping the experiment going waaayyyyyyy too long.

Here's the analogy I think of:

Iowa bought a 2023 "fully loaded" Denali sight unseen that ended up with 3 shot tires, power steering pump going out, and stalled out every time it came to an intersection. But rather than swapping out for the '06 Camry they had in the garage that wasn't as pretty but would get them anywhere they wanted to go, they limped the Denali 1,400 miles throwing a bunch of money and parts at it because they didn't want to admit they bought a lemon (or be seen driving the Camry).

 

[CP87]

I bought the kool aid... Wish I hadn't. Not that it'd have mattered but yeah the signs were there. Undersized noodle armed damaged goods. Granted predicting his quad injury and reshredding of his knee wasn't a given. But I think it's clear even had he been 100% he wouldn't have been what many had hoped. He just wasn't that good. I give him props for trying. He had to rehab a bitch of an injury I certainly feel for that. Swing and a miss though like every other dang QB since Stanley pretty much.

(Petras was a huge miss IDC that he started 3 yrs. If we'd have had any other options worth a crap he shouldn't have started the 2nd/3rd yrs)

Surrounded by crazy talent at Michigan, he just didn't do that much:



Hawkeyeswire did a statistical deep dive indicating that perhaps McNamara represented a substantial upgrade, but I think this was just the difference between the Michigan O and the Iowa O, not the QBs puling the trigger:

What the Hawks are getting: Statistical breakdown of Cade McNamara's 2021 season

What do the statistical numbers say Cade McNamara is bringing to Iowa City compared to Spencer Petras? Here’s what the numbers indicate.

hawkeyeswire.usatoday.com

 

[Hawkboys]

Surrounded by crazy talent at Michigan, he just didn't do that much:

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Those are U of Iowa HOF #s for a QB in the Ferentz era.

 

[CP87]

Those are U of Iowa HOF #s for a QB in the Ferentz era.

I would take Stanley's #s (worse completion %, but many more TDs), or Beathard, or Stanzi's senior year, or Drew Tate, or Brad Banks. Now, that is the who's who of KF QBs, but that is the point...McNamara was much more Petras or Beutjer than he was Beathard or Banks. We know what an okay Iowa QB can do at Michigan:



McNamara was a demonstration of what an okay Michigan QB does at Iowa.