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#1DieHardHawk

#1DieHardHawk

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#1DieHardHawk said:
A win's a win, so we'll definitely take it, but this is still eye-popping.

Wetjen is more of a gadget player. If you subtract his two swing passes, our WRs and TEs as a group had a total of 4 catches for 22 yards. :oops:

That's obviously not all on them, but still. . . Definitely not what I was expecting of Lester's offense this year.

RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTDLNG
K. Wetjen22110.5012
X. Williams2136.5010
K. Moulton2105.008
R. Vander Zee11010.0010
H. Large188.008
S. Anderson263.004
TOTALS10686.8012
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That's 4 receptions for 24 yards, and Wetjen has been lined up as a wide out a number of times.
 


I don’t care how many passing yards we have if we run the ball like we did. Receivers were open on several occasions, but Gronowski air mailed the passes.
 


SCHawkeye2 said:
Not sure it matters who is the OC.
Or QB.
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Sorry, but MG is as close to CJB, RS, or DT as this team has had since 2016 and he's what won that game. Neither Petras, Stanley, Brown, Stratton, Lainez, McNamara, Hill, Labas, Mansell, Padilla, nor Sullivan would've won that game.

Am I saying MG is CJB or Ricky Stanzi? No.

But is this the first QB outside of Chuck, Brad, Ricky, Drew, or CJ that we've had with balls and leadership and a killer attitude we've had in the past 24 years? Yes.

Remember how in '15/'16 how CJ looked like he had been hit by a bus (because he had), but he was still the commanding officer out on the fiield who guys believed in and trusted because he didn't shit his pants like Petras and Stanley at the first sight of a d-lineman? Just having that attitude out on the field rubs off on everyone. It calms everyone down because they know they're going into battle with a guy who's not going to turtle up.

MG seems to have that moxy. And at least last Saturday that's what got us over the hump.
 


AreWeThereYet said:
That's 4 receptions for 24 yards, and Wetjen has been lined up as a wide out a number of times.
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Oops. Rapid math mistake there.

Wetjen lines up as a WR, but within the system, he used more as a gadget player. Primarily swing passes and toss sweeps.

Regardless, though, even if his stats are included, the numbers remain eye-opening considering the expectations coming into the season.
 


Fryowa said:
Sorry, but MG is as close to CJB, RS, or DT as this team has had since 2016 and he's what won that game. Neither Petras, Stanley, Brown, Stratton, Lainez, McNamara, Hill, Labas, Mansell, Padilla, nor Sullivan would've won that game.

Am I saying MG is CJB or Ricky Stanzi? No.

But is this the first QB outside of Chuck, Brad, Ricky, Drew, or CJ that we've had with balls and leadership and a killer attitude we've had in the past 24 years? Yes.

Remember how in '15/'16 how CJ looked like he had been hit by a bus (because he had), but he was still the commanding officer out on the fiield who guys believed in and trusted because he didn't shit his pants like Petras and Stanley at the first sight of a d-lineman? Just having that attitude out on the field rubs off on everyone. It calms everyone down because they know they're going into battle with a guy who's not going to turtle up.

MG seems to have that moxy. And at least last Saturday that's what got us over the hump.
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Not criticizing MG.
My point (in both posts you seem to take exception to) is that a better OC and a better QB don't seem to matter.
The problem illustrated by the OG post (last in B10 and 130/134 in FBS in passing) is still there despite new and better faces.
My belief, in both posts, is that the problem lies elsewhere.
 


Hoping with him using the RPO and his ability to run it will open up play action or our vertical passing game. It may not always be pretty but if it gets the job done, I can live with it. I was a bit frustrated with Gronk's touch and accuracy, but he made up with it with his feet.
 


SCHawkeye2 said:
Not criticizing MG.
My point (in both posts you seem to take exception to) is that a better OC and a better QB don't seem to matter.
The problem illustrated by the OG post (last in B10 and 130/134 in FBS in passing) is still there despite new and better faces.
My belief, in both posts, is that the problem lies elsewhere.
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But you said basically, same 'ol same 'ol...

MG is not same 'ol same 'ol and the PSU game wasn't either. Any of the 11 QBs between MG and CJB would've lost that game. CJ would've won that game in '15/'16. You think Petras or Stanley would've taken off on those two runs? Nope. They would've tucked the ball, squatted down, and taken the sack. They're both good guys but they aren't dawgs.

Saying the QB doesn't matter isn't making sense. The QB matters and they won the game because of his attitude and what he did on the field. A win is a win regardless of the passing stats. That hasn't been Iowa football in the last 8 years and at least now we see that it can be.
 


Fryowa said:
Sorry, but MG is as close to CJB, RS, or DT as this team has had since 2016 and he's what won that game. Neither Petras, Stanley, Brown, Stratton, Lainez, McNamara, Hill, Labas, Mansell, Padilla, nor Sullivan would've won that game.

Am I saying MG is CJB or Ricky Stanzi? No.

But is this the first QB outside of Chuck, Brad, Ricky, Drew, or CJ that we've had with balls and leadership and a killer attitude we've had in the past 24 years? Yes.

Remember how in '15/'16 how CJ looked like he had been hit by a bus (because he had), but he was still the commanding officer out on the fiield who guys believed in and trusted because he didn't shit his pants like Petras and Stanley at the first sight of a d-lineman? Just having that attitude out on the field rubs off on everyone. It calms everyone down because they know they're going into battle with a guy who's not going to turtle up.

MG seems to have that moxy. And at least last Saturday that's what got us over the hump.
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So true. Gronowski is a winner. If you want style points you are probably going to be disappointed. But I will take the W any day of the week. Is he 100% accurate on his passes? No. Does he miss open receivers sometimes? Yes. But he does what is needed.

If you are disappointed in our passing yards, I get it to a point. But when you average 7.2 yards per carry rushing the ball, you would be stupid to go away from that. We are not and probably will not be a great passing team this year.
 


Fryowa said:
But you said basically, same 'ol same 'ol...

MG is not same 'ol same 'ol and the PSU game wasn't either. Any of the 11 QBs between MG and CJB would've lost that game. CJ would've won that game in '15/'16. You think Petras or Stanley would've taken off on those two runs? Nope. They would've tucked the ball, squatted down, and taken the sack. They're both good guys but they aren't dawgs.

Saying the QB doesn't matter isn't making sense. The QB matters and they won the game because of his attitude and what he did on the field. A win is a win regardless of the passing stats. That hasn't been Iowa football in the last 8 years and at least now we see that it can be.
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Again. Not criticizing MG. I agree with you. He won the game for us. He is better than we have had in years.
And so is Lester.
My comments were in regard to the passing stats and the 68 passing yds vs PSU DESPITE having a better QB and OC. The woes of our passing offense seem to have little or no correlation to our QB or OC
 
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Gronowski missing spring ball, then being injured, has prevented his growth in the system.

Our WR group is stronger, but still well below average. I think Jacob Gill has his back arm yanked just before the ball arrived, but he has to make a play there.

I do think Lester is going to have success in the passing game. Hecklinski will be running around throwing darts next year.
 


If Iowa was 2-5 instead of 5-2 with those same passing stats....... I mean how we win games despite the passing/receiving numbers being so paltry is still blowing my mind. We've been doing it awhile now obviously and it should be impossible to be so lopsided one way like we are and have any success let alone the success we've had. I've come to the point of acceptance. Things are what they are and this is what it is.
 


SCHawkeye2 said:
Again. Not criticizing MG. I agree with you. He won the game for us. He is better than we have had in years.
And so is Lester.
My comments were in regard to the passing stats and the 68 passing yds vs PSU DESPITE having a better QB and OC. The woes of our passing offense seem to have little or no correlation to our QB or OC
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But if MG making up for it on the ground, as well as opening up the rest of the run game by being a threat (no teams in the past 8 years have had to worry about an Iowa QB taking off with the ball), does it matter much? Are the woes of our passing game as detrimental as they were before? My opinion is no.

I don't care how we score or who scores or how we move the ball. The score at the end of the game is all that matters. If we had a guy who could kick 75 yard field goals and we won by making 12 of them a game I would not care.

You can't be upset about one area being bad when another is making up for it. MG is making up for a lot of what you're saying the defects are.
 


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