Question on Conference Expansions

jameskalina

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If the rumor about the Pac Ten inviting Big Twelve teams to join the conference is true and it happens quickly then why can the Pac Ten move so fast but the Big Ten needs to take 12 to 18 months to decide what to do?
 
What is a reason to rush Big Ten Expansion? There is none. The Universities that make the short list is pretty easy to figure out, just look at who is an AAU member and what major media markets are they in. If this Pac Ten talk is true then that short list just got shorter. Those schools on the short list are not going anywhere and it gives Notre Dame an opportunity to consider the ramifications of remaining independent.

The addition of new members to the B10 conference is never rushed. There is a culture in the B10. There are NCAA rules, and then there are conference rules, and then there are University rules. Any new member better be able to accept conference minimum standards and probably better have standards greater than the minimum.
 
The list gets shorter by one Texas and if texas goes to the pac 10 it's cause they want to rather then join the big ten. Texas knows they can join the Big ten if they want to, I think the only reason they'd go to the pac 10 is they want to keep rivalries in tact they can't control other teams joining the big ten but they can try to keep everything the same as much as they can. If you think about it there division is going to be the big 12 south with colorado,arizona, and asu joining not that big of a change. They have become a national power since joining the big 12. Not so much before, they realize things are going to change so they want to keep it semi the same, so doing this may seem smarter then joining the big ten. Where they may become Penn State, same reason why Notre Dame has been apprehensive about joining.
 
What is a reason to rush Big Ten Expansion? There is none. The Universities that make the short list is pretty easy to figure out, just look at who is an AAU member and what major media markets are they in. If this Pac Ten talk is true then that short list just got shorter. Those schools on the short list are not going anywhere and it gives Notre Dame an opportunity to consider the ramifications of remaining independent.

The addition of new members to the B10 conference is never rushed. There is a culture in the B10. There are NCAA rules, and then there are conference rules, and then there are University rules. Any new member better be able to accept conference minimum standards and probably better have standards greater than the minimum.

Don't the Pac Ten have similar rules they go by? I doubt the schools in either conference are that far apart in ideaology.

On one hand the Big Ten is taking its time and on the other hand there seems to be a sense of urgency by the Pac Ten.
 
Nobody has moved, a month ago Big ten "was inviting" nebby,mizz,rut,nd hasn't happened yet, now pac 10 "is inviting" 6 big 12 schools. we will see if it happens just like big ten invitees.
 
IF ( and that's a bif IF ) the Big 10's idea of a jewel for their expansion is Notre Dame than by waiting for something like this to happen might makes Notre Dame more attainable
 
Nobody has moved, a month ago Big ten "was inviting" nebby,mizz,rut,nd hasn't happened yet, now pac 10 "is inviting" 6 big 12 schools. we will see if it happens just like big ten invitees.

Agreed. All this is just fueled by the media. When something actually happens, then we can discuss it. In the end I wouldn't be surprised if no teams joined the B10 or the Pac10.
 
The Pac 10 does have a legitimate reason to move faster than the Big 10 and that's their TV contract is up for negotiation next spring. They want to have all their players in place to negotiate the best possible contract. The Big Ten doesn't need to worry about that and therefore is on a different timeline.

However, one possibility is that the Big Ten is saying it will take it's time trying to make sure other conferences don't rush in and make a move before the Big Ten is ready. Of course it appears the Pac 10 isn't caring about the Big Ten.
 
The Pac Ten and the Big 12 have nothing really at stake. They will both benefit from this move. The Big Ten has something at stake. If they make the wrong move it could end up reducing TV revenues per school.

Fox is psyched about what has happened with the BTN in the East and they really want to do the same thing in the West. As the previous poster said, TV contracts for both these leagues are up for negotiation. But Fox doesn't just want to renegotiate contracts, they want to start a Western version of the BTN.

What I find funny is the group of people who still keep thinking this is all a just a complex ploy to get ND to join the Big Ten.
 
I think it's a certainty the Pac 10 will create their own network. The only question is will it be a Pac 10 Network or Pac 10/Big XII Network? I guess that depends on if the Big XII exists in a couple of years.
 
The two super conferences are the Big10 and the SEC. To a lesser extent the ACC the Pac10 and the Big12. These factor in TV revenue, athletic programs and academic grants. The Pac10 is trying to gain any advantage that they can in order to be a super conference. HUGE TV revenues are at stake over the expansion and as someone mentioned earlier, the Pac10's contract is almost up. Add in the fact that TX (the institution) doesn't control it's own destiny as the state legislature must sign off. In order for them to do it they must take A&M and possibly Tech. The Big10 has NO interest in Tech as they add no value academically or from a TV revenue standpoint.
 
The two super conferences are the Big10 and the SEC. To a lesser extent the ACC the Pac10 and the Big12. These factor in TV revenue, athletic programs and academic grants. The Pac10 is trying to gain any advantage that they can in order to be a super conference. HUGE TV revenues are at stake over the expansion and as someone mentioned earlier, the Pac10's contract is almost up. Add in the fact that TX (the institution) doesn't control it's own destiny as the state legislature must sign off. In order for them to do it they must take A&M and possibly Tech. The Big10 has NO interest in Tech as they add no value academically or from a TV revenue standpoint.

The Big Ten may agree to take Tech as a "package deal" to secure the Texas television market. That would probably mean Nebraska or Missouri drops off (IMO, most likely Nebraska). I think the Texas market is too good to pass up even with Texas Tech coming on board replacing another school with a lighter market.
 

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