QB

[dahlhawk]

this is just my opinion, but IMO, Iowa has had above average QB play for a long long time and IMO as well, that is NOT detrimental to the programs success because, having a good player under center hasn't really made them elite. Stanley is another above average QB. Iowa has had 3 of their last 4 starters drafted to the NFL. Stanley will likely make it 4 of their last 5. That's not poor QB play.

Stanley just played VERY well, against a good team (best D in the country that had only allowed 5 TD's all season and Stanley threw 3 in one game) in a big game. He threw a the game winning TD in the 2nd half of a game we trailed. He's thrown 52 TD's and 16 INT's the last 2 seasons. Let's just say that IMO, I don't think the QB position is holding Iowa back.

Yes and no, a quality wide receiver who can turn a two yard pass into a 30 gain would certainly help Stanley as well as another RB like Wadley who pumped up Nate's numbers last year, but Stanley still has to make quicker reads. He made significant progress in the bowl game. I would still like to see QB competition come spring, I expect Peyton to transfer.

 

[ssckelley]

Missed Hockenson on his pick, TJ was wide open for a likely td, missed TJ on another pass late in the game, missed sergeant down the seam for a huge gain. Threw the ball low to TJ on what could have been a first down, instead we punted the ball back to them late in the game. He misses all kinds of passes, and rarely is the ball put where the receiver can catch it in stride and run. A junior high qb could have made the pass to Easly he was so wide open.

Every quarterback makes bad throws. Stanley played well yesterday.

 

[InGoodCo]

Yes and no, a quality wide receiver who can turn a two yard pass into a 30 gain would certainly help Stanley as well as another RB like Wadley who pumped up Nate's numbers last year, but Stanley still has to make quicker reads. He made significant progress in the bowl game. I would still like to see QB competition come spring, I expect Peyton to transfer.

FWIW - Stanley's #'s are pretty close to the same or better in almost every category w/out Wadley this season. The biggest difference was the INT's - but those are bound to increase when you throw the ball close to 50 more times. He had more yards, better QBR - less sacks, higher completion percentage, same amount of TD's. There's little to no shot of any competition for the Iowa QB spot next season. When you return a guy who's thrown 52 TD's to 16 INTs and over 5000 yards in 2 seasons and he returns for his senior year, that's one position you're not as worried about.


http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4036149/nate-stanley

 

[InGoodCo]

Carried away much? He threw a bunch of 5 yard passes outside of the 10 yard pass to a wide open Easly that he ran for 65 yards with. Was inaccurate as usual on anything over 10 yards, and missed a wide open Hockenson on his interception that could have been a td. We won't sniff a west division title with him as our qb next year.

He threw 3 TD passes on a defense in 1 game that only allowed 5 TD passes all season. If Iowa doesn't sniff the west next season, it certainly won't be because of who's under C.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Iowa was 100% one dimensional on offense and Nate threw 3 TDs and 1 poc


Also had McNutt, DJK and Tony Moeaki, and real good O line. In 2009 RBs were Wegher and A Rob. Pretty good duo.

Yeah Stanzi had a lot of help. He had a lot of good talent around him. I can see folks saying they 'like' Stanzi more or whatever but I can't say he's 'better' than Stanley is. That'd be an interesting battle if they were in same class competing for the job how that'd turn out...

 

[pythagoras]

Missed Hockenson on his pick, TJ was wide open for a likely td, missed TJ on another pass late in the game, missed sergeant down the seam for a huge gain. Threw the ball low to TJ on what could have been a first down, instead we punted the ball back to them late in the game. He misses all kinds of passes, and rarely is the ball put where the receiver can catch it in stride and run. A junior high qb could have made the pass to Easly he was so wide open.

We get it you're a miserable human. You know who wouldn't be missed....... you

 

[westender]

There are two types of "statistically great" defenses in college football. One type is the one that is loaded with 4 and 5 stars who are well coached and disciplined. I.e., they are actually great. The other type is the type that cooperates with a moderately decent offense and gets into a bunch of slug fests that might go either way. This is the Iowa, Wisconsin, Mississippi State, Iowa State, Stanford, Penn State, Michigan State model. Don't get me wrong, all those ball clubs have good defenses and some really talented players, but God help you if you leave them on the field all day in bad spots.

Look, you can point to games like Alabama, but Tua was hurt when they played that game and Nick didn't let him run and called off the dogs the moment it was apparent MSU wasn't going to be able to score. At the end of the day, when you're lining up to play one of those teams, you ain't game planning to get into a high scoring shootout.

And now I don't want to take anything away from the offense because the interior of their d-line is right there with anyone, but 2 of our TDs came on really short fields and 3 of our points came courtesy of 30 yards of penalties. But I don't think for a second that MSU defense would bottle up teams like Bama at full strength (if Bama needed to score), Clemson, Oklahoma, Texas (the way they played last night), Ohio State, etc.

I remember when the Hawks

Yeah Stanzi had a lot of help. He had a lot of good talent around him. I can see folks saying they 'like' Stanzi more or whatever but I can't say he's 'better' than Stanley is. That'd be an interesting battle if they were in same class competing for the job how that'd turn out...

It is just like most US Presidents. Toward end of tenure they are most often disliked a lot more then when they have been out of office for 10 years. It is all about the big picture and time.

And Rick at the end stating America, love it or leave it. That was glorious.

 

[westender]

If you weren't nervous when Stanzi had the ball you must have had some good sedatives going. Stanzi was a turnover machine, but he would usually overcome his pick-6's with a couple of TD passes later on.

The thing with Rick was he was the same demeanor whether he just threw a TD or just threw a pick. Shrugged it off quickly and kept chucking it. Rick just had a better supporting cast in my opinion by quite a bit, even on the D side of the ball back in '09.

 

[westender]

Missed Hockenson on his pick, TJ was wide open for a likely td, missed TJ on another pass late in the game, missed sergeant down the seam for a huge gain. Threw the ball low to TJ on what could have been a first down, instead we punted the ball back to them late in the game. He misses all kinds of passes, and rarely is the ball put where the receiver can catch it in stride and run. A junior high qb could have made the pass to Easly he was so wide open.

OK Clone boy. Tell us now how Brock Purdy or next year's 3rd string QB is better than NS. LOL. I wish somebody sat at your employer just jumping your shit for every little thing.

 

[okeefe4prez]

OK Clone boy. Tell us now how Brock Purdy or next year's 3rd string QB is better than NS. LOL. I wish somebody sat at your employer just jumping your shit for every little thing.

To be fair, Purdy is only a freshman and he's pretty damned good. I'd take him in a heartbeat. We'll see how he is without Montgomery and Butler, though. Nate would probably look pretty good with those two guys on Iowa's roster.

 

[Iowa Tex]

Yes and no, a quality wide receiver who can turn a two yard pass into a 30 gain would certainly help Stanley as well as another RB like Wadley who pumped up Nate's numbers last year, but Stanley still has to make quicker reads. He made significant progress in the bowl game. I would still like to see QB competition come spring, I expect Peyton to transfer.

I hope 2 stays because there is nothing exciting behind him.

 

[FBletterman]

No he wouldn't. Wouldn't change the fact he is inaccurate, inconsistent, locks on to his receiver constantly, no pocket presence, plays very nervous/scared, slow thought process.

Okay, right. Clemson or Alabama wouldn't be in the top 3 teams in America with Stanley at QB? Please give me a break. you could QB and they'd be top 10 they are so much better than everyone else not Georgia. Stanley would kill it as Clemson starting QB.

 

[FBletterman]

Disagree. I think every starting QB bince the Ferentz resurgence OTHER THAN those named Nate or Jake would have been capable of being All-American at Bama, however.

I think within the past few years, there has been some evolution where you have to be able to run a little bit to be good enough to consistently win even at the top programs. The defensive coordinators have found so many total stud d-tackles that even good teams have the pocket totally collapse a fraction of a second after the snap probably 25% of the time and you gotta be able to get out of that shit or your offense is gonna suck. I mean, Mississippi State is what, maybe the 5th best program in the SEC West and those guys were on Nate immediately about every third time the kid dropped back.

My same answer. Okay, right. Clemson or Alabama wouldn't be in the top 3 teams in America with Stanley at QB? Please give me a break. you could QB and they'd be top 10 they are so much better than everyone else not Georgia. Stanley would kill it as Clemson starting QB.

 

[okeefe4prez]

My same answer. Okay, right. Clemson or Alabama wouldn't be in the top 3 teams in America with Stanley at QB? Please give me a break. you could QB and they'd be top 10 they are so much better than everyone else not Georgia. Stanley would kill it as Clemson starting QB.

Clemson would be because Stanley is good enough to go through the ACC with Clemson's talent undefeated. I don't think Bama would be, though. And Clemson doesn't win that Bama game with Stanley at QB. Well, maybe they would have won it by a couple points because the defense played so well, but if Nick had been kicking FGs rather than going for it on 4th down every time, it would have been really close.

 

[westender]

Missed Hockenson on his pick, TJ was wide open for a likely td, missed TJ on another pass late in the game, missed sergeant down the seam for a huge gain. Threw the ball low to TJ on what could have been a first down, instead we punted the ball back to them late in the game. He misses all kinds of passes, and rarely is the ball put where the receiver can catch it in stride and run. A junior high qb could have made the pass to Easly he was so wide open.

And what did you F up in your life in the last few days?? And why did you do that?

 

[taffaej]

All posted above is BS ... Have you seen Alabama and Clemson skilled players. Amari Cooper type WRs and Derrick Henry type RBs. Nate Stanley would be a All American with there skilled players.

Wrong!
Stanley is an average Big Ten QB, nothing more and nothing less.

Now could he be a better QB under better coaching yes probably. I know Stanley wouldn’t have won the National title as the QB of Clemson as a fact because his ass would have gotten benched.

 

[FBletterman]

Clemson would be because Stanley is good enough to go through the ACC with Clemson's talent undefeated. I don't think Bama would be, though. And Clemson doesn't win that Bama game with Stanley at QB. Well, maybe they would have won it by a couple points because the defense played so well, but if Nick had been kicking FGs rather than going for it on 4th down every time, it would have been really close.

I agree with all that; they both would be top 5 with Nate; most likely not National Champs. Lot of my statement was just joking around but seriously Nate could be a 3rd team all american if he started for Clemson or Bama. That's probably the ceiling.

 

[FBletterman]

Wrong!
Stanley is an average Big Ten QB, nothing more and nothing less.

Now could he be a better QB under better coaching yes probably. I know Stanley wouldn’t have won the National title as the QB of Clemson as a fact because his ass would have gotten benched.

Like I just said. I agree with all that; they both would be top 5 with Nate; most likely not National Champs. Lot of my statement was just joking around but seriously Nate could be a 3rd team all american if he started for Clemson or Bama. That's probably the ceiling.