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[oregonhawkeye]

I like Nathan Stanley. He's an reasonably good B10 QB and seems to be a good kid. Not taking away from him. This is about the program.

Iowa only gets to the next level with a great quarterback. We will always have both excellent and poor performances at all other positions. If we're not great at QB then there will be no B10 championship or getting to the next level. Tate and Banks were there and sometimes Stanzi and CJ.

That is all.

 

[NCHawker]

I agree. And the offense needs to evolve....its true.that's what a lot of people say. I can't explain the x and ohs of it but its true ... Iowa requires a great QB and an evolved offense...to win championships

 

[Fryowa]

I like Nathan Stanley. He's an reasonably good B10 QB and seems to be a good kid. Not taking away from him. This is about the program.

Iowa only gets to the next level with a great quarterback. We will always have both excellent and poor performances at all other positions. If we're not great at QB then there will be no B10 championship or getting to the next level. Tate and Banks were there and sometimes Stanzi and CJ.

That is all.

I never got nervous when Tate, Banks, CJ, or Stanzi had the ball. I wanted them to have it because I knew they had ice in their veins and that they were confident in what they were doing, mistakes or no.

Stanley scares the shit out of me because he goes out there and plays like B1G football scares the shit out of him.

Seriously. Every single time he drops back I tense up and think to myself, “Ohhhhh F, what’s gonna happen now?”

With the guys you mentioned there was none of that and it shined through in their playing, and I also believe it rubbed off on their teammates.

 

[FBletterman]

All posted above is BS ... Have you seen Alabama and Clemson skilled players. Amari Cooper type WRs and Derrick Henry type RBs. Nate Stanley would be a All American with there skilled players.

 

[BVHawk95]

He's obviously got some things to work on, but the guy is poised to become Iowa's all time leader in TD passes. There's still plenty of positives about his game.

 

[pythagoras]

I never got nervous when Tate, Banks, CJ, or Stanzi had the ball. I wanted them to have it because I knew they had ice in their veins and that they were confident in what they were doing, mistakes or no.

Stanley scares the shit out of me because he goes out there and plays like B1G football scares the shit out of him.

Seriously. Every single time he drops back I tense up and think to myself, “Ohhhhh F, what’s gonna happen now?”

With the guys you mentioned there was none of that and it shined through in their playing, and I also believe it rubbed off on their teammates.

Agreed outside of Stanzi and Indiana

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

That’s the tough thing about Stanley. Statistically, we aren’t getting much better. But there’s a marked difference in his play in “big games.” I wish there was a way to teach confidence and swagger, because that’s exactly what he needs. If he could play his top game no matter the circumstances we’d be the favorites in the West. It doesn’t help that he can’t run when he needs to. That saved us so much in 2015.

 

[ottoman89]

All posted above is BS ... Have you seen Alabama and Clemson skilled players. Amari Cooper type WRs and Derrick Henry type RBs. Nate Stanley would be a All American with there skilled players.

It doesn’t matter if he has those skilled players if he can’t comstantly find the open target, and constantly make the throws.

The thing with Stanley for me will always be consistency, Football IQ and vision. He misses a lot of easy throws and wide open targets that would end up in TDs or moving the chain, but they ultimately end up drive killers. He also throws some really, really bad interceptions and makes bad reads. And at the end of the day, he’s not good about seeing the field most of the time. He will force a bad throw because he’s locked on a target and won’t see the field and see there’s an open receiver.

We could do worse than Stanley, be we could do a lot better too.

 

[NikeHawk21]

If Iowa wants to improve next year they need to figure out how they are going to run the ball effectively. Maybe it’s time to ditch the zone blocking scheme.

After yesterday’s game Iowa ranks 88th nationally in yards per carry (3.9) and 95th in rush yards per game (143.5). For a school known for offensive line play and development that is simply unacceptable.

 

[koralakers]

COLLEGE football is all about having a great athlete and “playmaker” at qb. All the great COLLEGE qbs can beat you with arm and legs. PRO football is all about beating you with ARM and BRAIN (Brady, Manning, etc).

We think we are a FARM SYSTEM for the pros we we only seem to pursue pro-style qbs.

 

[okeefe4prez]

All posted above is BS ... Have you seen Alabama and Clemson skilled players. Amari Cooper type WRs and Derrick Henry type RBs. Nate Stanley would be a All American with there skilled players.

Disagree. I think every starting QB bince the Ferentz resurgence OTHER THAN those named Nate or Jake would have been capable of being All-American at Bama, however.

I think within the past few years, there has been some evolution where you have to be able to run a little bit to be good enough to consistently win even at the top programs. The defensive coordinators have found so many total stud d-tackles that even good teams have the pocket totally collapse a fraction of a second after the snap probably 25% of the time and you gotta be able to get out of that shit or your offense is gonna suck. I mean, Mississippi State is what, maybe the 5th best program in the SEC West and those guys were on Nate immediately about every third time the kid dropped back.

 

[ssckelley]

Disagree. I think every starting QB bince the Ferentz resurgence OTHER THAN those named Nate or Jake would have been capable of being All-American at Bama, however.

I think within the past few years, there has been some evolution where you have to be able to run a little bit to be good enough to consistently win even at the top programs. The defensive coordinators have found so many total stud d-tackles that even good teams have the pocket totally collapse a fraction of a second after the snap probably 25% of the time and you gotta be able to get out of that shit or your offense is gonna suck. I mean, Mississippi State is what, maybe the 5th best program in the SEC West and those guys were on Nate immediately about every third time the kid dropped back.

Good points and all but Miss State may have been the best defense in the $EC. They had the best scoring defense in FBS. A better QB and better receivers they could have been up there with Alabama/Georgia.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

When everything around Stanley goes well he tends to plays well. When his receivers are open (for the most part, he's missed some egregiously easy ones too) he does a good job of hitting them. When the line protects him well and he has his feet set and has an open receiver he tends to do his part. That throw to ISM was a big time throw. The timing and accuracy were right on. Even the play to Easley, TJH was the primary read on that they said. After seeing that wasn't there he right away went to Easley and put it on him. It happened so fast it almost looked like Easley was his first read but it wasn't. That was a great job from Stanley making that quick read and putting it right on him.

Stanley isn't the only QB to have some Jeckle and Hyde to his game. When he's hit a bunch and has to make off platform type of plays he struggles. I really wish we'd have converted more 3rd downs. That was probably my biggest pet peeve of how that game went. We convert that last one and the D wouldn't have had to make us sweat it out. That's certainly partially on Stanley too.

What I'll take away from that game was Stanley beat what was one of if not the best defensive SEC team college football has to offer (their studs all played) with a month to prepare for us and won. And he did it with no running game what so ever. His scramble on 4th down was the biggest running play of the day really. So for him to help orchestrate that and put 27 pts on the board is pretty impressive frankly. Take away his one terrible interception and he pretty much played great ball out there.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Good points and all but Miss State may have been the best defense in the $EC. They had the best scoring defense in FBS. A better QB and better receivers they could have been up there with Alabama/Georgia.

Nah, I don't think so. Mississippi State would be a great Big Ten West team, but they aren't a QB and WRs away from legitimately competing with Bama and Georgia. They are more like Iowa and Wisconsin. The defense looks statistically good due to the offense needing to execute long drives and them playing the field position game. Teams like Bama and Georgia that can generally score quickly put their defense out there for more reps.

 

[InGoodCo]

this is just my opinion, but IMO, Iowa has had above average QB play for a long long time and IMO as well, that is NOT detrimental to the programs success because, having a good player under center hasn't really made them elite. Stanley is another above average QB. Iowa has had 3 of their last 4 starters drafted to the NFL. Stanley will likely make it 4 of their last 5. That's not poor QB play.

Stanley just played VERY well, against a good team (best D in the country that had only allowed 5 TD's all season and Stanley threw 3 in one game) in a big game. He threw a the game winning TD in the 2nd half of a game we trailed. He's thrown 52 TD's and 16 INT's the last 2 seasons. Let's just say that IMO, I don't think the QB position is holding Iowa back.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Disagree. I think every starting QB bince the Ferentz resurgence OTHER THAN those named Nate or Jake would have been capable of being All-American at Bama, however.

I think within the past few years, there has been some evolution where you have to be able to run a little bit to be good enough to consistently win even at the top programs. The defensive coordinators have found so many total stud d-tackles that even good teams have the pocket totally collapse a fraction of a second after the snap probably 25% of the time and you gotta be able to get out of that shit or your offense is gonna suck. I mean, Mississippi State is what, maybe the 5th best program in the SEC West and those guys were on Nate immediately about every third time the kid dropped back.[/QUOTE]
As a team yes but not their D... Their D is the real deal let's not short change that. That D is arguably as good as what college football has to offer. They were giving up 12 pts a game... That's it. #1 in all of football in scoring D. They did exactly what they wanted to do for the most part. They shut down our running game. They put us in 3rd and longs a lot. We only converted 1 of 11 of them. We only had 199 yards of total offense yet we somehow put 27 points up.. Football can be a weird game like that but when it comes to MSUs side of it penalties, drops and missed opportunities have them saying what if this morning. But their D (besides the Easley play) played outstanding as was expected.

 

[ssckelley]

this is just my opinion, but IMO, Iowa has had above average QB play for a long long time and IMO as well, that is NOT detrimental to the programs success because, having a good player under center hasn't really made them elite. Stanley is another above average QB. Iowa has had 3 of their last 4 starters drafted to the NFL. Stanley will likely make it 4 of their last 5. That's not poor QB play.

Stanley just played VERY well, against a good team (best D in the country that had only allowed 5 TD's all season and Stanley threw 3 in one game) in a big game. He threw a the game winning TD in the 2nd half of a game we trailed. He's thrown 52 TD's and 16 INT's the last 2 seasons. Let's just say that IMO, I don't think the QB position is holding Iowa back.

Stanley did play very well, I can only remember one throw that he air mailed (on a 3 yard route). How many times during the season did those throws like the 75 yard touch down end up uncatchable?

 

[InGoodCo]

Stanley did play very well, I can only remember one throw that he air mailed (on a 3 yard route). How many times during the season did those throws like the 75 yard touch down end up uncatchable?

I'll be shocked if he doesn't have surgery on his hand this off season. To have something still lingering from the Penn State game has to be something more serious.

 

[NikeHawk21]

this is just my opinion, but IMO, Iowa has had above average QB play for a long long time and IMO as well, that is NOT detrimental to the programs success because, having a good player under center hasn't really made them elite. Stanley is another above average QB. Iowa has had 3 of their last 4 starters drafted to the NFL. Stanley will likely make it 4 of their last 5. That's not poor QB play.

Stanley just played VERY well, against a good team (best D in the country that had only allowed 5 TD's all season and Stanley threw 3 in one game) in a big game. He threw a the game winning TD in the 2nd half of a game we trailed. He's thrown 52 TD's and 16 INT's the last 2 seasons. Let's just say that IMO, I don't think the QB position is holding Iowa back.

Get with the program, they are only “Big” games if Iowa loses. Last year the 5 TD games at Iowa State and against Ohio State don’t count because we won.

In all seriousness I certainly recognize that NS has flaws. The tough part is arm talent wise he’s probably the best we’ve had, his struggles are mostly between the ears. There are plenty of shortcomings with our offense that are not on NS, but it seems he takes the brunt of the criticism. Hopefully he takes a big step foward and has a big year next year.

 

[InGoodCo]

Get with the program, they are only “Big” games if Iowa loses. Last year the 5 TD games at Iowa State and against Ohio State don’t count because we won.

In all seriousness I certainly recognize that NS has flaws. The tough part is arm talent wise he’s probably the best we’ve had, his struggles are mostly between the ears. There are plenty of shortcomings with our offense that are not on NS, but it seems he takes the brunt of the criticism. Hopefully he takes a big step foward and has a big year next year.

that's pretty much spot on. Just above someone made a complaint about his play in "big games" - was that not big enough for you? He played very well. Led Iowa to a comeback win in the 2nd half against an elite defense.

yet, he still doesn't "have it" in big games I guess. He threw that INT and that's all we can remember. Not the fact that he was playing without Noah Fant and made Easely look like Wes Welker against all that SEC speed.