Pryor's HS coach says to take the reins off of him

For the good of Everything Hawkeye.......God, let this not occur until after we play at the Shoe!!!!!
 
This article is coming out about 3.5 weeks too early. I don't want to see an offense where Terrelle Pryor is given more opportunities to run out of spread sets. Let Tressel keep thinking that he can make a pro-style, running QB out of him yet!
 
hawkfan2679 said:
This article is coming out about 3.5 weeks too early. I don't want to see an offense where Terrelle Pryor is given more opportunities to run out of spread sets. Let Tressel keep thinking that he can make a pro-style, running QB out of him yet!
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This has been my concern all year, that the OSU offense would fail so badly they scrap everything before the Hawks get there.
 
It amazes me how many people hate the Big Ten. Read the comments? I love people with an original idea.

I cannot wait for Iowa to get a chance at another SEC school and blow them out again.
 
If OSU tried to go spread before the Iowa game, how well prepared could they be? Wouldn't the prep time required be greater than the time they'd have?
 
storminspank said:
If OSU tried to go spread before the Iowa game, how well prepared could they be? Wouldn't the prep time required be greater than the time they'd have?
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That's my feeling exactly......2/3rd's of the way thru the season and your gonna scrap everything - the Vest is to rigid/conservative to do that!
 
JonDMiller said:
This has been my concern all year, that the OSU offense would fail so badly they scrap everything before the Hawks get there.
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Jon, this falls in line with the pathetic fallacy of, "You only get better grades than me because You try harder!"

Maybe, just maybe, Terrelle Pryor isn't as good a "zone-read" QB as he was in high school. Everyone assumes the problem IS Terrelle Pryor. NObody seems to think it could be their OL, their WRs, their TEs, RBs, etc., or that execution is "lacking".

Just because they change their offense doesn't mean TP and OSU become unstoppable.

It's like when Auburn went to the spread and sucked. They went back to their "old" system. And they still sucked.

If you can't execute "basic" systems, why assume that changing systems is even the answer?

That said, I dread the thought of TP lighting us up, on the ground or in the air, on 11/14. I just don't see us having much of a chance IN C-Bus.
 
imported_hawkeyebob62 said:
Maybe, just maybe, Terrelle Pryor isn't as good a "zone-read" QB as he was in high school. Everyone assumes the problem IS Terrelle Pryor. NObody seems to think it could be their OL, their WRs, their TEs, RBs, etc., or that execution is "lacking".

Just because they change their offense doesn't mean TP and OSU become unstoppable.

It's like when Auburn went to the spread and sucked. They went back to their "old" system. And they still sucked.

If you can't execute "basic" systems, why assume that changing systems is even the answer?

That said, I dread the thought of TP lighting us up, on the ground or in the air, on 11/14. I just don't see us having much of a chance IN C-Bus.
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To the bold...I don't want to find out. They really haven't run that much with him out of that set, and I don't want them to start trying now so that they are better at it in 3 weeks. As it stands now, their offense is in disarray because of a variety of issues, most notably the inconsistency of Pryor. He's more athlete, a lot less QB...putting him in the gun 90% of the time, in theory, allows him to use his god-given abilities as opposed to forcing him into their pro-style offense.

I fear him lighting us up as well...but if they keep their offense as it is now, I feel a lot better about our chances vs. if they go to more spread. All the same running plays can be run out of the gun as from under center, except out of the gun those outside zone running plays would hypothetically have to be defended backside (and contain more misdirection) to keep Pryor from running free.

Ohio State ran the spread in 2006 with Troy Smith, so it's not like they don't know how to do it, or that they don't have it in their playbook. It's there...I just don't want to see it.
 
The thing that is really interesting about this is that we all wondered if whether Tress made a promise to Pryor to help him in the pro-style offense so he could go pro...looks like he did...because if he had not, Michigan would have gotten him
 
I'm wondering if at this point Pryor has realized he made a mistake and should have went to Michigan instead. And, either isn't buying into what Tressel is selling or thinks he needs to create his own action and adventure because he isn't going to get it from Mr. Sweater Vest.

It almost seems like Juice Williams has lost his will and way with the Zooker at the helm but Pryor isn't going go to down like that and has some plans of his own. Hence the little outburst with Tressel on the sideline.
 
storminspank said:
If OSU tried to go spread before the Iowa game, how well prepared could they be? Wouldn't the prep time required be greater than the time they'd have?
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I don't know how hard it would be for Ohio State to prepare, as they don't necessarily have to change systems.

http://www.rivalryesq.com/2009/10/19/1091665/what-to-do-with-terrelle

That article talks about treating Pryor like Mack Brown treated Vince Young. Just have him drop back and only have one read, and if that read is open throw it. If it isn't tuck it and run. I love our defense, but keeping contain on Pryor worries me after seeing what Michigan's Robinson did to us.
 
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A lot of things jump out in that article.

1) Maybe the defenses he's seeing are better than what he saw in high school???

2) HS coach doesn't know if he would accept the move to WR? Whose calling the shots out there?

3) His WR feels hard for him?
 
Pryor is a great athlete and still trying to figure out the quarterback position at the next level. I don't believe his high school coach can compare high school level and college level football. As we know with Jake, what happened in high school doesn't always transfer to the next level. Speed is increased on every aspect. Hopefully the turmoil continues for Ohio State and Pryor doesn't figure out the position.

P.S. Ted Ginn can't read this sign.
 
GoHawks1123 said:
I don't know how hard it would be for Ohio State to prepare, as they don't necessarily have to change systems.

http://www.rivalryesq.com/2009/10/19/1091665/what-to-do-with-terrelle

That article talks about treating Pryor like Mack Brown treated Vince Young. Just have him drop back and only have one read, and if that read is open throw it. If it isn't tuck it and run. I love our defense, but keeping contain on Pryor worries me after seeing what Michigan's Robinson did to us.
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I think the main reason Robinson did what he did is because Norm had pretty much dropped back into a pseudo-prevent defense by that point hadn't he? Give him the 5-8 yard runs, but prevent the 30-yard dash.
 
As Anthony Herron astutely pointed out last nite on Sites and Sounds, OSU is lacking on offense around Pryor. Their o-line is not good, their rbs are average and hurt, and their wideouts are young and learning.

It is a very average offensive team in terms of production right now. Young at a lot of spots.

Hawks need to keep Pryor in the pocket, make him throw out of a pressurized pocket...his footwork is bad. He can only really hurt us out of the pocket by throwing or running...it is their defense that is dangerous.
 
Bohawk said:
2) HS coach doesn't know if he would accept the move to WR? Whose calling the shots out there?
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I think this may have had something to do with the promises that Tressel made to Pryor during the recruiting process. If you tell a kid with Pryor's sheer athletic talent that you are going to mold him into an NFL QB, then a year and a half into his career you move him to WR, that doesn't speak to well of the coaching staff and the now-empty promise. And I'm sure word would get out that Tressel basically lied to him...
 
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