Preseason AP Top 25
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JoeyLabasForPresident
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Ready for some Clown tears, they think they belong in the top 15, some even think they are a top ten squad.
Adam
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All I hear is that ISU is finally a quality win.
Fryowa
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What I want to know is how a 4-8 team makes it on the preseason poll.
It's a rhetorical question of course, but those inbreeders have quite literally shown nothing on a football field in the last half decade that would indicate they're remotely close to one of the 25 best teams in the country.
Show me one reason with actual proof and other than "I think" bs that they are better than any other squad on that list.
Jesus Christ, they're 8-16 the past two years with no bowl invites...
It's a rhetorical question of course, but those inbreeders have quite literally shown nothing on a football field in the last half decade that would indicate they're remotely close to one of the 25 best teams in the country.
Show me one reason with actual proof and other than "I think" bs that they are better than any other squad on that list.
Jesus Christ, they're 8-16 the past two years with no bowl invites...
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Fryowa
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Until they go 4-8, no bowl.
Adam
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I get your point, but you know that preseason polls are subjective and there is hardly ever proof to substantiate anyone outside of the top 10 perhaps.
Fryowa
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Not proof of ranking order, but a reason with something tangible that actually happened. Other than anecdotes.
There aren't any.
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Fryowa
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The Sagarin rating is by far the most objective rating system based purely on objective statistics.
You can see here that Nebraska finished the season 54th. Even if one didn't have faith in the ratings, 54th is far enough out that it's hard to argue.
Do they have a bunch of 5 star guys coming up? Nope.
Do they have upperclassmen with big stats playing this year? Nope.
Were their losses good losses last year indicating that they'd win most of them if played again? Nah.
I fully understand it's all lip service to generate web page clicks, but the nebraska love is all based on speculation about the next Tommie Frazier.
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They got a fluke win against MSU 9-6 in a blizzard and our game shouldn't have been that close, another fluke. Then they beat Bethune Cookman and Illinois and somebody else, don't recall. They are losing their leading rusher and receiver.
mopkins
King Kong
Do they REALLY have no bearing on the playoffs? The playoffs are decided by a committee of people sitting in a room, and people are generally unfair and easily influenced. Most people would instantly put 8-0 Alabama at #1 over an 8-0 Purdue regardless of SoS or any other factors...just because the name on the jersey and the history.
Polls are stupid and fun, but I also don't believe they have no bearing at all on the committee...see 2017 Alabama
(I am sorta playing devils advocate here)
Ben Rumson
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The whole preseason ranking thing is stupid.
If you finish in the top 25 at end of last season then to me that should be the next seasons pre rankings! So somehow Neb and Isu did something in the off time to jump up in ranking without playing a game?????? Ok got it.........sure!!!!!!!thing!!!!!!!
If you finish in the top 25 at end of last season then to me that should be the next seasons pre rankings! So somehow Neb and Isu did something in the off time to jump up in ranking without playing a game?????? Ok got it.........sure!!!!!!!thing!!!!!!!
RobHowe
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That would be hard to measure or quantify. One would have to get into the heads of every committee member.
My point is that the AP and Coaches poll are not part of the formula like they used to be during the BCS era.
Fryowa
Administrator
I wouldn’t go so far as to say that previous rankings should carry over. If Purdue were ranked say 22nd at the end of the year and Rondale Moore declared, there’s no way they’re remotely as good as before. Some players have that much of an effect.
MiniMoeHawk
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Only took the clowns 42 years to be ranked. Lol
iloveyoularrystation
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nice synopsis
karras
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Sports Illustrated (IA 18th - ISU 23rd) also has them both in the top 25, I forget where Athlon and Lindys put them, but I wouldn't be surprised if both were in the top 25. Helps our OOC and SOS. First time that has ever happened.
