Post 1 thing KF has taken heat for that he shouldn't have...

[seepig]

I think he took some unfounded heat for the Rhabdo debacle. I think he was told by someone else (G dumbass Barta) to let us handle it. Yeah they handled it alright so poorly that it's just another data point arguing for putting a stake in GB.

 

[1977Hawkeye]

Have to agree to disagree with this one.
I was at the game. Iowa had all the momentum. The stadium was dead quiet. Fans were nervous. Iowa had outplayed the mighty Bucks in the 4th quarter and weren't backing down.
Iowa didn't need a TD to win...merely approximately 45 yards to try a FG. Over a minute left with a TO remaining...on our own 38.
Even if Vandy screws up, Tressel would have sat on it anyway.
You're on the road. Everything's on the line. You have the best team in your tenure (IMO). You play for the win.

Agree 100%. This is probably the thing that comes to mind first for me. IMO the choice to sit on the ball there verges on unforgivable. You don't get many opportunities to go for a win in the shoe with a Big 10 title on the line. Obviously it depends on how the game is going but in this case, as you said, OSU was on the ropes. GO FOR IT. Taking that game to OT allowed OSU to regroup, and JVB was just as likely to mess up in OT than he was in regulation. OT felt like a higher pressure situation to me than trying to get into FG range in the 4th quarter, in a tied game. That was the biggest piece of chicken$h!t coaching I've ever seen.

I do agree agree with someone who said that KF doesn't deserve criticism for his contract. KF may be overpaid but that's Barta's fault. I don't fault KF for taking what he can. Any one of us would do the same and take the millions and 10 year contracts. Don't tell me you wouldn't.

 

[karras]

I do agree agree with someone who said that KF doesn't deserve criticism for his contract. KF may be overpaid but that's Barta's fault. I don't fault KF for taking what he can. Any one of us would do the same and take the millions and 10 year contracts. Don't tell me you wouldn't.

People really really really really really really really really really really really really miss the point on the contract. You can't be morally superior . . . a saint even . . . and then also be a slave to ambition and greed. He wasn't "awarded" those contracts. He had to argue he was worth them. Ego, not humility, won those contracts.

 

[LGEND24]

Which wouldn't change in OT. On the road against a tough opponent...if you have a chance to go for the win and you have momentum, you go for it. There's no better example of that oft-cited "playing not-to-lose" critique of Old Kirk...than that game @ tOSU.

If you run the ball in OT (which they didn't since I believe there was a sack on 1st down) then Vandenberg is not throwing the ball, so it is not the same thing. When you are 100% pass then the defense only has to defend one dimension.

 

[LGEND24]

Have to agree to disagree with this one.
I was at the game. Iowa had all the momentum. The stadium was dead quiet. Fans were nervous. Iowa had outplayed the mighty Bucks in the 4th quarter and weren't backing down.
Iowa didn't need a TD to win...merely approximately 45 yards to try a FG. Over a minute left with a TO remaining...on our own 38.
Even if Vandy screws up, Tressel would have sat on it anyway.
You're on the road. Everything's on the line. You have the best team in your tenure (IMO). You play for the win.

I was also at the game. Most fans disagree with the decision, which I understand. With 0:52 to go on the your own 32 he took way too much heat for playing for OT.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Anything that IowaLawWasRight ever blamed on KF...

 

[hawkdrummer1]

If you run the ball in OT (which they didn't since I believe there was a sack on 1st down) then Vandenberg is not throwing the ball, so it is not the same thing. When you are 100% pass then the defense only has to defend one dimension.

We had the mo on the road near the end of the game...you go for the win. Period. Kirk played armadillo. End.

 

[Northside Hawk]

We had the mo on the road near the end of the game...you go for the win. Period. Kirk played armadillo. End.

Which makes last year's Nebraska game even more of a seachange for Kirk. Our starting field position was good not great, there wasn't much time remaining, Nebraska had the momentum, and Recinos had just missed a field goal. I was happy with how it ended however.

Perhaps Kirk remembered 2009 when the situation came up again. Or the fact that we were at home made the difference. Or perhaps he didn't want OT when Nebraska had the momentum. Winning that game spared us a trip to the Music City Bowl, if not a return to the Pinstripe.

 

[HawkGold]

Which makes last year's Nebraska game even more of a seachange for Kirk. Our starting field position was good not great, there wasn't much time remaining, Nebraska had the momentum, and Recinos had just missed a field goal. I was happy with how it ended however.

Perhaps Kirk remembered 2009 when the situation came up again. Or the fact that we were at home made the difference. Or perhaps he didn't want OT when Nebraska had the momentum. Winning that game spared us a trip to the Music City Bowl, if not a return to the Pinstripe.

Maybe but.... he had success with BB...never again that type...blew out OSU....and went old Kirk....66 yards snd so on. Maybe..maybe not.

 

[seepig]

People really really really really really really really really really really really really miss the point on the contract. You can't be morally superior . . . a saint even . . . and then also be a slave to ambition and greed. He wasn't "awarded" those contracts. He had to argue he was worth them. Ego, not humility, won those contracts.

We may just have a difference of opinion with respect to negotiation = argue over. I don't think they're neccesarily synonymous. In any event GB did what GB does dole out big contracts for middling programs. Now one could argue that KF has gotten the max out the Iowa program and it's ability to recruit and develop and that would be fair. In which case KF's agent has a good case.

 

[westender]

Hindsight is always right. If only people got paid for that. I am sure those who are critical never wish they did anything different than they did in the past.