play calling rumors

The facts are pretty simple. Rudock does exactly what he is coached to do, if he didn't he wouldn't be playing. Earlier in the year, he was being coached to not take chances. Yesterday it appears he was coached to take more shots. He attempted throws yesterday that he hadn't attempted all year. That is due to coaching during the week. It wasn't so much a difference in play calling, but a difference in mentality, which is the coaching that happens in practice. Maybe that was a KF led change, maybe it was a GD led change, but irregardless, it was A CHANGE.

Or maybe the receivers were getting open yesterday. I was at the Ball State game and receivers were NOT getting open down field; result = check downs. I will admit that watching the game on TV is completely different and I can't say that he did or did not have open receivers down field in other games, but different angles on replays show that very few times were there open receivers down field.

So I guess what you want is for him to throw down field whether or not he has an open man, apparently.
 
It looked like O'Keefe was calling the plays. It was basic KOK football. Pound the ball between the tackles... Pound the ball between the tackles... Throw the ball down the field.

Of course you realize that when KOK was a head coach at Allegheny he ran a spread offense and won a DIII title. He was in the DIII playoffs 6 of his 8 years and had a record of 59-3... again running the spread offense. Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't see the spread be that effective yesterday. It was pro-set or I-back set that did the most damage... and that's basic KF football.
 
GD has shown since he has been at iowa that he wants less FB sets and less tight ends and more shotgun. Yesterday we used more FB, more tight ends and less shotgun. The run set up the passes which were down field. This is also different from typical gd at Iowa as he has tried to use horizontal passing and spreading the field to open lanes for running.

Just to throw gasoline on the fire, yes we had more FB, more tight ends and less shotgun.... very much like the NE Patriots. Gee, I wonder who is the coach on staff that came from there?
 
I think they also down played the read-routes and went back to a more traditional pro style set routes. This is why Jake was able to hit guys earlier in their routes and coming right out of their breaks. By far Jake's best passing day this season.
 
Despite the rep kok had on this board (and others), he was a damn good fb coach & was a master of the well timed PA waggle. Its football 101 that seems to be beyond GDGD thus far - when your entire program is geared to pound between the tackles (which sucks the d towards the middle of the field/poa), the PA waggle play is gonna be money.
 
Or maybe the receivers were getting open yesterday. I was at the Ball State game and receivers were NOT getting open down field; result = check downs. I will admit that watching the game on TV is completely different and I can't say that he did or did not have open receivers down field in other games, but different angles on replays show that very few times were there open receivers down field.

So I guess what you want is for him to throw down field whether or not he has an open man, apparently.

That is the opposite of what I have heard from multiple people that go to games.
 
Whether or not a receiver is open depends on the QB. Receivers get covered more easily when noodle-arm Jake is looking at them than fearless CJ.
 
Good grief people... Davis was calling the plays. The biggest difference in the offense was 2 things and they tie together. The running game got rolling early and often and they got a lead. Now the difference between the MD game and this one was they STUCK WITH IT. And the defense played great/NW looked terrible. It's really as simple as that. Jake was sharp with his accuracy and the play action worked like a charm because why??? The running game was rolling. It also is notable that Iowa converted 3rd downs really well. I don't have those numbers in front of me but the team did great at that too. That is the recipe for winning games in November and anytime really. Hopefully this is the start of them hitting their stride. But for crying out loud whoever started the rumor that Davis lost his playcalling duties is just throwing out crap to see what sticks. It's not based on anything real.
 
Of course you realize that when KOK was a head coach at Allegheny he ran a spread offense and won a DIII title. He was in the DIII playoffs 6 of his 8 years and had a record of 59-3... again running the spread offense. Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't see the spread be that effective yesterday. It was pro-set or I-back set that did the most damage... and that's basic KF football.
He had high powered offenses but the myth is wrong...he ran a pro style offense. You see a lot of I formation in the video.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4fsDIijcAkgIf you skip the interviews and go to the 7:00 min mark you will see a good idea of their offense.
 
You throw hyperbole at me to prove me wrong? That's some weak sauce, son. Give me some facts.

Where is the hyperbole? Let's break his post down.

First point: Was Greg Davis run out of Texas? Yes. Their fans hated his system just as much as we do, and he became a sacrificial lamb for Brown to keep his job.
Second point: Did Texas have damn near NFL talent every year? Yes. One look at NFL draft results will tell you that.

You might want to check out a dictionary some time. His post wasn't based on hyperbole. It was based on fact.
 
BTW, I saw probably 10 football games yesterday (mostly of ranked teams) and almost all had a horizontal passing game.


Sure they do, but not 9 out of every 10 passes are horizontal.

The Hawks threw horizontally a few times yesterday, but 85 to 90 percent of the time it was vertical. They also ran vertically about 85 to 90 percent of the time.

Will Iowa continue to go towards the opposing teams goal line or go towards the side line? That's the question.
 
Where is the hyperbole? Let's break his post down.

First point: Was Greg Davis run out of Texas? Yes. Their fans hated his system just as much as we do, and he became a sacrificial lamb for Brown to keep his job.
Second point: Did Texas have damn near NFL talent every year? Yes. One look at NFL draft results will tell you that.

You might want to check out a dictionary some time. His post wasn't based on hyperbole. It was based on fact.

When has Champless ever used facts to support anything? If the Hawks won the B10 he would find something to whine about. He's the single worst poster on this board. If there were a poll for the worst, most uninformed, and least knowledgeable poster I feel pretty confident stating that Champless would end up in the top 3. He would likely contend for the number 1 spot. He's a giant tool who never fails to disappoint. There is absolutely nothing that he says that anyone takes seriously.
 
BTW, I saw probably 10 football games yesterday (mostly of ranked teams) and almost all had a horizontal passing game.

What is your point? Yesterday, Iowa looked the best it has all year & prob the most balanced along with some damn good blocking, and you're trying to sell that has been Iowa's obstacle all year, the horizontal short yardage passing game & check downs. lol. Yesterday's game is the 1st game Iowa looked like Iowa of years past and the players were jumping around, hitting hard & playing fast. Good luck trying to sell this Greg!!:rolleyes:
 
I've been to most of the games. Receivers being open hasn't been an issue.

Agreed. Even on TV you can see there are receivers open down field. It's hard to pinpoint why Jake misses them. It could be that he has moved past them in his progressions before they got open or the throwing lane wasn't there and he didn't see them. It could be any number of things. It could be that Jake goes through his reads too fast and checks down rather than hold the ball and allow his targets to get open. You'd need the receivers and Jake in a film room to get the correct answer on each play.
 
BTW, I saw probably 10 football games yesterday (mostly of ranked teams) and almost all had a horizontal passing game.


I watched few other games than Iowa but don't doubt your observation. Thing is ... who cares. In a vacuum, every offensive scheme -- every play -- is designed to score and every OC, at this level, is a genius. The catch is, if you can't execute it, it fails.

Obviously, those ranked teams are at that level because they are doing what works for them. They have a QB who is comfortable in the offense and can execute the scheme with timing, decision making and placement; they have athletes who can provide the key component of the horizontal game -- yac. It does not work so well for Iowa because of it being a mismatch of personnel to scheme.

You can blame JR and / or the WR for lack of execution but at the D1 level, I still presume that the coaches are more knowledgeable about the game and play the role of "teachers" and motivators. I place almost all of the blame on the coaches for failing to do their basic job:
1) identify and recruit the most athletic players with the most developed skills at their position;
2) put them in positions to succeed through a scheme that matches their skills and capabilities and a strategy that maximizes their strengths / attacks the opponent's weakness;
3) teach them to execute your scheme and follow your strategy;
4) constantly a s s e s s (don't know why that was filtered?) the need to change the players to fit your scheme or change your scheme to fit your best players.

The offensive coaching staff has done a terrible job in performing some or all of these fundamental responsibilities, to varying degrees, especially over the last 3 seasons -- THEY have failed to execute as much as the players have. Yesterday and the first 1/2 of Indiana have been exceptions.

A coherent scheme + a competent strategy + mentally and physically capable players = competitive football the maximizes opportunities for victory.

It's a pretty simple formula.
 
Good grief people... Davis was calling the plays. The biggest difference in the offense was 2 things and they tie together. The running game got rolling early and often and they got a lead. Now the difference between the MD game and this one was they STUCK WITH IT. And the defense played great/NW looked terrible. It's really as simple as that. Jake was sharp with his accuracy and the play action worked like a charm because why??? The running game was rolling. It also is notable that Iowa converted 3rd downs really well. I don't have those numbers in front of me but the team did great at that too. That is the recipe for winning games in November and anytime really. Hopefully this is the start of them hitting their stride. But for crying out loud whoever started the rumor that Davis lost his playcalling duties is just throwing out crap to see what sticks. It's not based on anything real.

I doubt there was someone else calling plays but your explanation made no sense.

The running game was working just as good or better against Maryland.

So the difference in the game was that the play calling and formations were different.
 
I watched few other games than Iowa but don't doubt your observation. Thing is ... who cares. In a vacuum, every offensive scheme -- every play -- is designed to score and every OC, at this level, is a genius. The catch is, if you can't execute it, it fails.

Obviously, those ranked teams are at that level because they are doing what works for them. They have a QB who is comfortable in the offense and can execute the scheme with timing, decision making and placement; they have athletes who can provide the key component of the horizontal game -- yac. It does not work so well for Iowa because of it being a mismatch of personnel to scheme.

You can blame JR and / or the WR for lack of execution but at the D1 level, I still presume that the coaches are more knowledgeable about the game and play the role of "teachers" and motivators. I place almost all of the blame on the coaches for failing to do their basic job:
1) identify and recruit the most athletic players with the most developed skills at their position;
2) put them in positions to succeed through a scheme that matches their skills and capabilities and a strategy that maximizes their strengths / attacks the opponent's weakness;
3) teach them to execute your scheme and follow your strategy;
4) constantly a s s e s s (don't know why that was filtered?) the need to change the players to fit your scheme or change your scheme to fit your best players.

The offensive coaching staff has done a terrible job in performing some or all of these fundamental responsibilities, to varying degrees, especially over the last 3 seasons -- THEY have failed to execute as much as the players have. Yesterday and the first 1/2 of Indiana have been exceptions.

A coherent scheme + a competent strategy + mentally and physically capable players = competitive football the maximizes opportunities for victory.

It's a pretty simple formula.

BINGO
 
Agreed. Even on TV you can see there are receivers open down field. It's hard to pinpoint why Jake misses them. It could be that he has moved past them in his progressions before they got open or the throwing lane wasn't there and he didn't see them. It could be any number of things. It could be that Jake goes through his reads too fast and checks down rather than hold the ball and allow his targets to get open. You'd need the receivers and Jake in a film room to get the correct answer on each play.

It looked like Jake was throwing prior to the WR making their break. He hasn't done that much this year. If he continues to trust his receivers to get open, we'll be in business.
 

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