Phil Parker makes noteworthy comment about Oregon’s NIL

HawkeyeHypnosis

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Ducks beat Gundys OK State 69-3 after his comments on their NIL and resources. From article:

“They have the whole package. It’s well-funded. I’ll put it that way,” Parker said.

This is not the first time an opponent called out Oregon’s NIL usage, as former Oklahoma State Cowboys coach Mike Gundy also made comments about the Ducks. Gundy called out Oregon’s spending and resources, to which Ducks coach Dan Lanning and the team responded in a big way on the field.
 


Phil Knight is worth $40 billion dollars and his sole hobby is funding Oregon sports. Some people do woodworking or play golf, Phil Knight pays NIL for fun. He could set their NIL salary for football at $100 million and that would only be 0.25% of his net worth.

That's point two five percent. Not two point five percent.

And before any mouth breathers start telling me the cap is $20 million, schools are already skirting around it by setting things up like individual corporate sponsorships which aren't payments directly from programs. There are tons of articles out there about how programs (including Oregon) get around the NIL cap. If any of you think Ohio State football players as a group are only being paid $20 million you're either an idiot, or ignorant.

Can only afford to pay Julian Sayin $3 million dollars out of your cap total? Get him a $1 million dollar deal with Gatorade and a $500k deal with EA Sports and a $2 million dollar deal with Draft Kings. Throw a little Arby's and Verizon in there for good measure. See how that works? There are schools that have set up in-house agencies that go out and look for deals for athletes. Googlize it.

Again, if anyone thinks Phil Knight doesn't have people out there working on that shit already, I don't know what to tell you.
 




I'm not buying it. It doesn't sound like Phil to make that type of comment. Sounds like their media is trying to get the Oregon team fired up. Does anyone have a link to Phil saying that?
 


I'm not buying it. It doesn't sound like Phil to make that type of comment. Sounds like their media is trying to get the Oregon team fired up. Does anyone have a link to Phil saying that?

Fast forward to 18:14 for the comment. I recommend watching the entire thing though.
 




Phil Knight is worth $40 billion dollars and his sole hobby is funding Oregon sports. Some people do woodworking or play golf, Phil Knight pays NIL for fun. He could set their NIL salary for football at $100 million and that would only be 0.25% of his net worth.

That's point two five percent. Not two point five percent.

And before any mouth breathers start telling me the cap is $20 million, schools are already skirting around it by setting things up like individual corporate sponsorships which aren't payments directly from programs. There are tons of articles out there about how programs (including Oregon) get around the NIL cap. If any of you think Ohio State football players as a group are only being paid $20 million you're either an idiot, or ignorant.

Can only afford to pay Julian Sayin $3 million dollars out of your cap total? Get him a $1 million dollar deal with Gatorade and a $500k deal with EA Sports and a $2 million dollar deal with Draft Kings. Throw a little Arby's and Verizon in there for good measure. See how that works? There are schools that have set up in-house agencies that go out and look for deals for athletes. Googlize it.

Again, if anyone thinks Phil Knight doesn't have people out there working on that shit already, I don't know what to tell you.
To me the $$$$$ don't make the players play better. They still can only get 11 guys on the field at once and these schools were already ahead of the arms race and playing players anyway. So, maybe the effect is not increasing the wide of gap between schools as many think. In addition, many of the 4-5* players can be hit or miss just like in the past, like the WR we got from Ohio St. years ago. It still comes down to the players playing and whether a team has a great coach.

Now, one can argue they are able to buy more depth with quality players, where is often where these teams have an advantage.
 


To me the $$$$$ don't make the players play better. They still can only get 11 guys on the field at once and these schools were already ahead of the arms race and playing players anyway. So, maybe the effect is not increasing the wide of gap between schools as many think. In addition, many of the 4-5* players can be hit or miss just like in the past, like the WR we got from Ohio St. years ago. It still comes down to the players playing and whether a team has a great coach.

Now, one can argue they are able to buy more depth with quality players, where is often where these teams have an advantage.
When a guy like Phil mentions in a press conference that they're "well-funded" I have to believe there's a big effect from it. He's a guy on the inside of college football recruiting who doesn't tend to mince words. Having big money removes one variable from the equation and that is an advantage in itself IMO.
 


Phil Knight is worth $40 billion dollars and his sole hobby is funding Oregon sports. Some people do woodworking or play golf, Phil Knight pays NIL for fun. He could set their NIL salary for football at $100 million and that would only be 0.25% of his net worth.

That's point two five percent. Not two point five percent.

And before any mouth breathers start telling me the cap is $20 million, schools are already skirting around it by setting things up like individual corporate sponsorships which aren't payments directly from programs. There are tons of articles out there about how programs (including Oregon) get around the NIL cap. If any of you think Ohio State football players as a group are only being paid $20 million you're either an idiot, or ignorant.

Can only afford to pay Julian Sayin $3 million dollars out of your cap total? Get him a $1 million dollar deal with Gatorade and a $500k deal with EA Sports and a $2 million dollar deal with Draft Kings. Throw a little Arby's and Verizon in there for good measure. See how that works? There are schools that have set up in-house agencies that go out and look for deals for athletes. Googlize it.

Again, if anyone thinks Phil Knight doesn't have people out there working on that shit already, I don't know what to tell you.
Be nice if we had a Phil Knight equivalent, there is alot to character as well in building a team.
 


Phil Knight is worth $40 billion dollars and his sole hobby is funding Oregon sports. Some people do woodworking or play golf, Phil Knight pays NIL for fun. He could set their NIL salary for football at $100 million and that would only be 0.25% of his net worth.

That's point two five percent. Not two point five percent.

And before any mouth breathers start telling me the cap is $20 million, schools are already skirting around it by setting things up like individual corporate sponsorships which aren't payments directly from programs. There are tons of articles out there about how programs (including Oregon) get around the NIL cap. If any of you think Ohio State football players as a group are only being paid $20 million you're either an idiot, or ignorant.

Can only afford to pay Julian Sayin $3 million dollars out of your cap total? Get him a $1 million dollar deal with Gatorade and a $500k deal with EA Sports and a $2 million dollar deal with Draft Kings. Throw a little Arby's and Verizon in there for good measure. See how that works? There are schools that have set up in-house agencies that go out and look for deals for athletes. Googlize it.

Again, if anyone thinks Phil Knight doesn't have people out there working on that shit already, I don't know what to tell you.
If everything you say is true (and I have no reason to doubt it), and if the current system does not change, then to me what Kirk Ferentz and Phil Parker are accomplishing (winning records; bowl games; domination over traditional rivals; and competitive games against the NIL powers) is even more remarkable.

If Oregon is being funded at these levels, then being only a 6.5 point underdog is pretty remarkable. Beating Penn State this year was a big deal. Having a chance to beat Indiana if a short field goal is made was amazing.

Oregon, Indiana and Penn State are spending NIL money at several multiples of what Iowa is spending.
 




When a guy like Phil mentions in a press conference that they're "well-funded" I have to believe there's a big effect from it. He's a guy on the inside of college football recruiting who doesn't tend to mince words. Having big money removes one variable from the equation and that is an advantage in itself IMO.
Yea, I get that, but, weren't teams like that always having an advantage in the past? Not to this extent, but my point is they will have 11 guys out there at a time that have to perform, just like before. These teams that have always have had huge budgets, donors have always had a roster full of 4-5* WR's, QB's, etc.. They don't get 15 players on the field to Iowa's 11. Again, I think the advantage is the quality depth these teams will have.

Now, I'm not naive enough to not say they will have more of an advantage but I'm not sure the gap is as bad as people think, because a gap between teams has always been there.
 


If everything you say is true (and I have no reason to doubt it), and if the current system does not change, then to me what Kirk Ferentz and Phil Parker are accomplishing (winning records; bowl games; domination over traditional rivals; and competitive games against the NIL powers) is even more remarkable.

If Oregon is being funded at these levels, then being only a 6.5 point underdog is pretty remarkable. Beating Penn State this year was a big deal. Having a chance to beat Indiana if a short field goal is made was amazing.

Oregon, Indiana and Penn State are spending NIL money at several multiples of what Iowa is spending.
Yes it is, and we Iowa fans need to really put that into perspective. It's actually amazing when thinking about the consistent success or being competitive and a tough out.
 




There are tons of articles out there about how programs (including Oregon) get around the NIL cap. If any of you think Ohio State football players as a group are only being paid $20 million you're either an idiot, or ignorant.

Can only afford to pay Julian Sayin $3 million dollars out of your cap total? Get him a $1 million dollar deal with Gatorade and a $500k deal with EA Sports and a $2 million dollar deal with Draft Kings. Throw a little Arby's and Verizon in there for good measure. See how that works? There are schools that have set up in-house agencies that go out and look for deals for athletes. Googlize it.

This does not seem to be an issue with an NFL salary cap, or an NBA luxury tax. You will hear about a team getting caught trying to skirt the rules every now and then, and then having the hammer dropped on them.

Honest question: what makes the NCAA "cap" setup less effective/enforceable?

Is it just the AMOUNT of money? That is, for a QB making $20mil/year in the NFL, the promise of a $500,000 endorsement deal is just not a game changer.

Or is it that the emotional attachment to pro sports is just different? Not nearly as many rich guys/gals lining up to shell out their money to make their local NFL franchise better, but they would gladly do so to help their alma mater.

Or is it something else? We know caps work in pro sports, why not in college? I honestly have no idea how the spending limit thing even works at the moment.
 


This does not seem to be an issue with an NFL salary cap, or an NBA luxury tax. You will hear about a team getting caught trying to skirt the rules every now and then, and then having the hammer dropped on them.

Honest question: what makes the NCAA "cap" setup less effective/enforceable?

If you want an NCAA CFB salary cap, then the NCAA needs to admit that players are employees, and the powers that be need to sign a Collective Bargaining Agreement with a future players association.

That is the difference, and also the solution.
 






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