Over Paid Coaches

[trj]

This is a great point, excellent analysis. From the outside looking in, he does look to be overpaid for the results he has, but as you have pointed out, the program is making a lot of money, so it is probably money well spent.

In looking over the list, it seems that Mack Brown and Skippy Rick “Neuweaselâ€￾ were left off of the most overpaid list. I still have no idea how Skippy has a job, anywhere. Mack, well, no one manages to do less with more. He is in the best recruiting grounds, warm weather, huge, huge budget, great coeds, in a very nice city, yet he has managed 2 conference titles and 1 MNC at his current school.

What are you talking about.....Mack Brown has done a terrific job at UT.


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[olddude]

He's being paid 3.8 million because he overachieves at a place that has a significant recruiting disadvantage over most of his peers, and because he's a great representative of the university.
When "underpaid" according to the Bleacher Report article by a Alabama fan(really?The "Bleacher Report" has only slightly more credibility than a teen magazine does on college football, and the Alabama fan author of the article put(*feigning shock*)Saban as 5th underpaid coach making over 5.2 million a year.

Might want to hold onto this article. If Iowa has a good year this year (which is possible) and Bama has a down year, 4 or more loss (which is possible). That number of losses between the two could close up rather fast. Saban is 5 wins ahead of KF since he took over at Bama. Thats with Bama having one no loss season and with our boys, doing whatever it was they were doing last year. Saban had better be under the gun to not dump more than 1 or 2, for over 5 mil in pay. He should only be 2 to 3 ahead of KF and we all know those 2 or 3 were really close ones for us. I am not saying Saban is a bad coach, infact he is doing rather well, but to put him and KF at the opposite ends in both pay and performance is just plain retarded.

 

[Montanahawk]

In the 50's-80's most home games weren't on TV. So, if you wanted to watch your team you went to the game. Secondly, there's numerous other games that you can watch from your chair, and many other options in terms of entertainment. So, projecting attendance from those decades to this one can be very misleading. Last year in attendance the top schools nationally: 1. Michigan 2. PSU 3. OSU. So, the top schools in the country in attendance were Big Ten teams. Both MSU, and UW finished higher in attendance to Iowa which finished 21st in home attendance. 23rd in all game attendance. Iowa had the sixth(now seventh sized attendance)sized stadium in the conference. I don't know the breakdown in generated stadium revenue but assuming they are proportionate to stadium size Iowa is bringing in greater revenue apart from stadium revenue than UW and MSU. The question is what is the likely hood that what are the chances: A. Significantly lower paid coach would bring to the table what KF does, or better 2. Would not then demand a significantly higher salary once that success was manifested and wouldn't leave the university for "a better opportunity for my family" when they did. What KF is a value to the University the program overachieves in terms of revenue and on the field production and while it's unlikely that Iowa was win a MNC with Ferentz it's unlikely almost everywhere else and with anyone else here too. Stoops, who's God like status has taken a hit the last few years at OU is in dramatically different circumstances at the program that has the historic 59th best winning percentage versuses the 4th best winning percentage. A huge national fan base, among the very best facilities in the country, and of course, adjacent to the biggest BCS conference player producing state in the country. I really don't get the continued pining for Stoops. It's apples and oranges comparing Ferentz in I.C. and Stoops in Norman. Texas, Ohio State headline 20 best college football coaching jobs - Andy Staples - SI.com

 

[conboy]

The Bleachereport has something out for Iowa it appears. Here is another topic is Iowa one of the "Most frustrating College Football Progams in the Nation."

2010 was a downer season I agree considering what we had returning, but over all I wouldn't say Iowa is frustrating. They are playing par with the type of players we field. I will always be happy with 8 to 10 wins a season, would more be nice.....sure....but 8 is great as well.

College Football:The 11 Most Frustrating College Football Programs in the Nation | Bleacher Report

 

[Cyhawk]

9+ wins each season should guarantee Ferentz a coaching job at Iowa. If we have another 06 and 07 six win season back to back then I think we will have a new coach the following season.

NOW WAY - Kirk is here for as long as he wants to be here. You look at the salary and AD's cave to the people to save their own job. There are dozens of coaches that can get the same performance out of IA that Kirk does. That said I would do everything you can to keep the known commodity. If an AD let a coach get away and it didn't turn out well the AD would lose his/her job. It's market value plus the AD saving his/her own rear end.

 

[rschneider]

I think it's worth it in the long run, every other coach out there sees that Iowa is staying loyal to a good coach that praises and respects the U of I. Not to mention his salary has been in news over the last few years. When Kirk is done here he will leave behind a job that will be desirable to any coach. Most people would love to work for a company that treat their employees so well. That is why we pay him so much, its setting our path for years to come.

 

[racerhawk]

Kirk Ferentz does not pack Kinnick, the Iowa Football team packs Kinnick. This is aided by the loyalty and excitement of the fan base coupled with the fact that Iowa does not have a professional football team to share the spotlight with. ISU sucks so fans span the state and are not located solely in Eastern Iowa.

The average attendance at Kinnick in 1950 was 44,584. The average attendance (lowest point under Kirk) was 61,123 with the high mark being in 2004 (i couldn't find any more recent stats than 2004). The seating capacity at Kinnick has changed over the past 60 years and was expanded again in 1990 to 70,397.

Capacity in 1956 was 53,000.
In 1983 it was expanded to 70,397.
In 1990 it was expanded to 70,585.

Since 1975 the average attendance has been at least 53,000 (100% capacity) and was 60,00+ after the first renovations in the early 80s going to today.

My point is that Kirk Ferentz doesn't pack the seats. The seats would fill up regardless of the coach. I really like Ferentz but we could be better.

KF has has lead Iowa to three top 10 finishes. They've won a BCS bowl, and appeared in two. They have a solid bowl record. I think some people think that we could always be better, but I am more than satisfied with his performance. Reaching for "the next level" when you're already doing well will net you Steve Alford and Rich Rodriguez in most cases.

Financially, KF is worth every penny. His ROI by most any metric is more than reasonable.

Some people are never happy.

I've taken over my dad's season tickets (he died many years ago). When he started taking me to games as a kid, we did have a fairly full stadium. However, the team was really, really bad. We've come a long way since the Bob Commings era. A long way. Hayden had a LOT to do with that, but KF has arguably taken Hayden's amazing legacy and added to it. That's not an easy act to follow.

Could we be doing better? Sure. How much better? I'm not so sure. Other teams have crashed and burned while we can consistently expect solid play from KF coached teams. Notre Dame can't say that. Michigan is just getting over their "we can do better" moment. Minnesota, despite a fairly strong history, can't do what we do. OSU is facing more NCAA troubles. Illinois is up and down. We beat PSU regularly. We have a better than average chance of beating an SEC team in a bowl.

Even in a "crappy" year, we saw an unranked Iowa team topple 10th ranked Mizzou.

We had, what...7 players drafted this year into the NFL?

I'm not sure what "better" looks like to you. I think Iowa is doing better right now.

 

[Cyhawk]

KF has has lead Iowa to three top 10 finishes. They've won a BCS bowl, and appeared in two. They have a solid bowl record. I think some people think that we could always be better, but I am more than satisfied with his performance. Reaching for "the next level" when you're already doing well will net you Steve Alford and Rich Rodriguez in most cases.

Financially, KF is worth every penny. His ROI by most any metric is more than reasonable.

Some people are never happy.

I've taken over my dad's season tickets (he died many years ago). When he started taking me to games as a kid, we did have a fairly full stadium. However, the team was really, really bad. We've come a long way since the Bob Commings era. A long way. Hayden had a LOT to do with that, but KF has arguably taken Hayden's amazing legacy and added to it. That's not an easy act to follow.

Could we be doing better? Sure. How much better? I'm not so sure. Other teams have crashed and burned while we can consistently expect solid play from KF coached teams. Notre Dame can't say that. Michigan is just getting over their "we can do better" moment. Minnesota, despite a fairly strong history, can't do what we do. OSU is facing more NCAA troubles. Illinois is up and down. We beat PSU regularly. We have a better than average chance of beating an SEC team in a bowl.

Even in a "crappy" year, we saw an unranked Iowa team topple 10th ranked Mizzou.

We had, what...7 players drafted this year into the NFL?

I'm not sure what "better" looks like to you. I think Iowa is doing better right now.

Can you say Tom Davis??